[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-14 Thread Earl Grey
In case it isn't obvious, I would strongly recommend a *compact* U- lock. My ex-g-friend's cheapo bright yellow Cannondale locked with a full-size Krypto was car-jacked in front of Rainbow Grocery in the Mission in broad daylight while she was inside for 15 minutes. Fortunately the lock broke the

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-13 Thread Peter Andrews
I just use a couple of Irish straps to lock mine up. Works perfectly. http://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/4981513112/ On Nov 12, 11:19 pm, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Ha! Thanks for all the info guys. I think I'll go with Sheldon's method for low security stops, and Lee's lock

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-13 Thread jose
Peter - your strategy looks insecure; you forgot to Irish strap the rear wheel. :) On Nov 13, 8:56 am, Peter Andrews beardedpe...@gmail.com wrote: I just use a couple of Irish straps to lock mine up.  Works perfectly. http://www.flickr.com/photos/beardedpeter/4981513112/ On Nov 12, 11:19 

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-13 Thread Peter Andrews
Haha, you're funny... Wait a sec, where do you work? On Nov 13, 10:08 am, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Peter - your strategy looks insecure; you forgot to Irish strap the rear wheel.  :) On Nov 13, 8:56 am, Peter Andrews beardedpe...@gmail.com wrote: I just use a couple of Irish

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-12 Thread William
You should just follow Rivendell's own IRONCLAD security system. Just paint your name on a spot on the pavement. Park your bike unlocked on your claimed spot. Nobody will touch it. Nobody ever gets their bike stolen at Riv HQ. Why wouldn't that system work elsewhere? On Nov 11, 6:23 pm,

Re: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-12 Thread erik jensen
hey, regardless of your lock setup, keep riding your riv daily! it likes it! On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:25 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You should just follow Rivendell's own IRONCLAD security system. Just paint your name on a spot on the pavement. Park your bike unlocked on your

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-12 Thread Phil Brown
On Nov 10, 11:00 pm, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All. I just moved to Oakland (Rockridge) from Houston and I'm curious what peoples opinions are parking your Rivs here are. In Houston, I felt fairly comfortable with locking up my Atlantis with bags/lights/brooks onboard with just a

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-12 Thread John Bennett
William, How right you are. Works wonders. Vaughn added a crudely painted skull and crossbones next to my name: Insurance. On Nov 12, 9:25 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: You should just follow Rivendell's own IRONCLAD security system.  Just paint your name on a spot on the pavement.  

Re: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-12 Thread PATRICK MOORE
, 2010 6:40:03 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft? Jose - Do you have to leave your Riv outside?  I commute daily with my Bleriot and simply park it in the cubicle with me.  Things sometimes get a bit cramped, but at least I know where my bike and components are at all

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-12 Thread Lee
Maybe a This Bike is a Pipe Bomb sticker? On Nov 12, 3:27 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh snap!  That's genius right there.  Like poison!  Skull and bones! Who would steal that?  A 'beware of dog' sign might even enhance it more.  Or a this bike has a posse sticker. On Nov 12, 1:59 

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-12 Thread jose
Ha! Thanks for all the info guys. I think I'll go with Sheldon's method for low security stops, and Lee's lock up method for longer/sketchier stops. The bike-link card for BART parking sounds interesting. That's a good point Lee made about Sheldon's method being susceptible to damage by the

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread jamison brosseau
hey, i don't live in the east bay, but do live in brooklyn new york. i lock up my bikes frequently. for commuting i only use baskets, with tote type bags, and remove them from the bike when i go in someplace. the racks stay, but i use two u locks, and a long cable. one long u lock will do my

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread kevin lindsey
Jose - Do you have to leave your Riv outside? I commute daily with my Bleriot and simply park it in the cubicle with me. Things sometimes get a bit cramped, but at least I know where my bike and components are at all times. One of the nice things about living in California is that most employers

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread Adam
I live in Berkeley and lock up my Hillborne often in the area. My policies change depending on the location of lock up as well as my instincts at the time. The other day I locked my Hillborne up in front of Berkeley Bowl. I took off the front wheel to secure both wheels and the frame inside my

Re: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread Ray Shine
recommendations.) From: kevin lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, November 11, 2010 6:40:03 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft? Jose - Do you have to leave your Riv outside

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread Lee
Just to follow-up, I took some pics of my locked up QB outside of my lab. Note that my workplace is secluded, remote, and well-trafficked by people, and it's on a pretty secluded campus with hundreds of barely locked bikes everywhere. So, my work lock and cable are less beefy than their

Re: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread cyclotourist
Lee, what are your thoughts on the seat tube lock point vs. rear wheel lock point (aka Sheldon techniquehttp://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html)? I typically do the Sheldon, but have always wondered if it's good enough... On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread Lee
Hey David. Hmmm, I've known about the Sheldon locking strategy and the only thing that concerns me is someone who doesn't know much about bikes coming by and undoing my quick releases and trying to remove the frame and finding out it can't be done. Then, just dropping the frame to the pavement.

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread Greg
Jose, Welcome to beautiful Oakland! This is what I do in Rockridge. Even though Rockridge is considered a nice neighborhood, and is really not at all like the Oakland that people think of from the news, it is still a moderately urban area with lots of people moving through on foot, bike, bart,

Re: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread cyclotourist
Interesting and excellent point! Particularly a concern in a high theft area. I don't have that problem, at least not hugely... On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Hey David. Hmmm, I've known about the Sheldon locking strategy and the only thing that concerns me is

Re: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread erik jensen
Get a good u-lock, I might use a too-heavy one at night (new york krypto) but prefer knowing at least the frame will be there for me while I'm inside a concert or otherwise. Use a good locking skewer for the other unlocked wheel (you can save money by splitting it up across a couple bikes, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread Horace
Definitely get a good U-lock. I've had a bike stolen that was u-locked to a parking meter in downtown Berkeley (a number of years ago). On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:50 AM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: Get a good u-lock, I might use a too-heavy one at night (new york krypto) but

Re: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread Horace
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: Definitely get a good U-lock. I've had a bike stolen that was u-locked to a parking meter in downtown Berkeley (a number of years ago). (In the middle of the day while I was at work.) -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread mike
Do get a U-Lock and use it. Replace any quick-releases on your wheels and seatpost with bolts that require some kind of tool. Doesn't need to be the magical locking variety. Wrap a cable around your wheels and saddle if your bike will be parked there all day, but it is onerous so don't feel like

Re: [RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread erik jensen
it never hurts to through that now-unused cable lock around your bikes, when inside, too. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:31 AM, mike michaelopo...@gmail.com wrote: Do get a U-Lock and use it. Replace any quick-releases on your wheels and seatpost with bolts that require some kind of tool. Doesn't

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-11 Thread Corwin
You may think I am paranoid, but I would never use a U lock or a cable lock on a bike I am leaving outside. I see way too many broken u-locks and cut cables. Whenever possible, I use attended bike parking - we are very fortunate in the SF Bay Area to have several such facilities. If you frequent

[RBW] Re: Oakland/Berkeley probability of theft?

2010-11-10 Thread Lee
Hi Jose. I live in San Francisco and frequent the East and South Bay areas regularly. Here's my two cents: Definitely do not rely on a cable lock in the Bay Area. Of course, thieves will target high-end bikes and components, but I think even more so, they target weak locks--cable locks in