Re: [RBW] N minus 2 plus 1
I am the same weight and just LOVE the ride of my 62cm Sam on 44mm Compass treads. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Dave S asked why I would recommend a Hillborne or Hilsen over a Roadini. I recommended that because in your OP you said you recently lost 150 pounds, and that you now weigh 260. A 260 pound person who was recently a 410 pound human sounds to me like it would not be a bad idea getting a 1 to 2 pound heavier bike and having the room for 38 mm tires with fenders, and 42 mm tires without. You could set up a very slick Sam Hillborne at ~24 pounds with nice 38mm tires, and do whatever brevet you like. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 8:45:01 AM UTC-7, DaveS wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the thoughts. Indeed the Fargo and Troll are for sale. > > Bill I am curious why you suggested the Sam or AHH instead of the Roadini, > as I am starting to think that 33's are a little small for a wide > man..even given Riv's assurance that it will be fine.the mental me > has me riding some New England fall brevets with the Roadini and being > wildly fast while the other me reminds that me that I am not a > racer...which makes the Sam the one -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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If you aren't wed to wheelsize you should also think about the frame angles. Me, I'd look at what's available in fat 650b rubber. -J On Aug 6, 2017, 8:45 AM -0700, DaveS , wrote: > Thanks everyone for the thoughts. Indeed the Fargo and Troll are for sale. > > Bill I am curious why you suggested the Sam or AHH instead of the Roadini, as > I am starting to think that 33's are a little small for a wide man..even > given Riv's assurance that it will be fine.the mental me has me riding > some New England fall brevets with the Roadini and being wildly fast while > the other me reminds that me that I am not a racer...which makes the Sam > the one > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/-9q7M2FJ9-I/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Thanks everyone for the thoughts. Indeed the Fargo and Troll are for sale. Bill I am curious why you suggested the Sam or AHH instead of the Roadini, as I am starting to think that 33's are a little small for a wide man..even given Riv's assurance that it will be fine.the mental me has me riding some New England fall brevets with the Roadini and being wildly fast while the other me reminds that me that I am not a racer...which makes the Sam the one -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I agree with the keep Jones and Bomba... I owned a 56 Bomba alongside my 60 Saluki for over a year and was always surprised at how similar they felt. Honestly if set up the same I'd say handling was the same. The Saluki never felt noodly even when I was up at around 255lbs and the Bomba never felt overly heavy especially when wearing the 48mm SBH tires. I replaced the Bomba with a Jones Plus, no regrets. And the Jones with 2.35" slicks is as fast feeling as my Saluki... When I go to a double crank from single on the Jones I may find I can even out pace the Saluki. Between the Bomba and Jones you've got two wildly reconfigurable rides and they are both iconic visually... Pretty cool combo. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I'm 230, was 255, and wouldn't worry at all about breaking a Roadeo. I tend not to bash over stuff, though. I'm with everyone else: keep the Jones and Bombadil, add a road-oriented bike. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Also agreeing with Jay, but the roadish bike should be a Sam or a Hilsen, in my opinion. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, August 1, 2017 at 7:15:12 PM UTC-7, Jay Connolly wrote: > > Keep the Jones, sell the Surly; keep the Bombadil, sell the Fargo. Buy a > Roadini or a Roadeo, or something similar. Use the Jones for all rough > tracks, snow, mud, and so on. Use the Bombadil for mixed surface rides, > groomed gravel, light trails, and easy recreational rides. Buy a more > Road-boasted bike for pushing yourself on the pavement. > > I know the problem. In my enthusiasm for bikes I liked, I used to have a > tendency to replicate them. Always this led to the realization that I had > simply duplicated, but rarely improved, something I liked. I have a Jones > Plus and would never sell it, though I may do what you've done and at a fat > front tire to make it even more versatile. It's my mountain biking, > single-track, and bikepacking rig (replaced a Fargo I used on the GDMBR in > 2015). I have an Appaloosa set up with a relatively high drop bar and full > racks, and it's incredibly comfortable for touring, for hauling, and for > rose-smelling. I have a Sam Hillborne set up with a lower bar and no racks, > and I ride that briskly for 1, 2, or 3 hours at a time. I think of it as my > fitness bike. The Appaloosa and the Sam could be setup similarly, but they > are completely different bikes the way I have them rigged. > > Good luck with reconstructing your stable. > > Jay > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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+1. I myself would be happy with such a trio! (Well, almost as happy as with my present trio, but close.) On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Jay Connolly wrote: > Keep the Jones, sell the Surly; keep the Bombadil, sell the Fargo. Buy a > Roadini or a Roadeo, or something similar. Use the Jones for all rough > tracks, snow, mud, and so on. Use the Bombadil for mixed surface rides, > groomed gravel, light trails, and easy recreational rides. Buy a more > Road-boasted bike for pushing yourself on the pavement. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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All the more reason to keep the Jones, in my view. You'd have to talk to Riv about tolerances. I'm 6'5" and 265, and in that context, the Sam is not a burly bike. Grant advised me that it would be just fine as a road bike but less suited to trail riding and loaded touring. It's a great road bike, for my purposes. The Jones is a great mountain bike, for my purposes. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Thanks for the input. One thing to throw into the mix is that I am 6'3 and 260..even w losing a third of my former self.so not sure if I am going to break things. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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This: Keep the Jones, sell the Surly; keep the Bombadil, sell the Fargo. Buy a Roadini or a Roadeo, or something similar. Use the Jones for all rough tracks, snow, mud, and so on. Use the Bombadil for mixed surface rides, groomed gravel, light trails, and easy recreational rides. Buy a more Road-boasted bike for pushing yourself on the pavement. Is perfect advice. I have a Trek 710 (Road), Saluki (Mixed surface and Commuting and camping), Salsa El mar b plus (Trails real dirt and roughest Stuff). The Saluki is the "one bike" bike which would be similar to your Bombadil as you seem more dirt oriented in general. That's a nice problem to have. I'd definitely look at a Roadeo or Roadini (the latter being BEAUTIFUL in person) or another similar lightweight go fast from a reputable place. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Keep the Jones, sell the Surly; keep the Bombadil, sell the Fargo. Buy a Roadini or a Roadeo, or something similar. Use the Jones for all rough tracks, snow, mud, and so on. Use the Bombadil for mixed surface rides, groomed gravel, light trails, and easy recreational rides. Buy a more Road-boasted bike for pushing yourself on the pavement. I know the problem. In my enthusiasm for bikes I liked, I used to have a tendency to replicate them. Always this led to the realization that I had simply duplicated, but rarely improved, something I liked. I have a Jones Plus and would never sell it, though I may do what you've done and at a fat front tire to make it even more versatile. It's my mountain biking, single-track, and bikepacking rig (replaced a Fargo I used on the GDMBR in 2015). I have an Appaloosa set up with a relatively high drop bar and full racks, and it's incredibly comfortable for touring, for hauling, and for rose-smelling. I have a Sam Hillborne set up with a lower bar and no racks, and I ride that briskly for 1, 2, or 3 hours at a time. I think of it as my fitness bike. The Appaloosa and the Sam could be setup similarly, but they are completely different bikes the way I have them rigged. Good luck with reconstructing your stable. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Having owned a Fargo set up with drops and more or less roadlike gearing, and a Ram, and a Sam, I would say: Sell the Fargo. Keep the Bombadil! (I've not owned one, but I know the Riv feel.) Sell the Troll. Keep the Jones (I'm saying this only because of the 100% favorable reports; I've not ridden one.) Buy at least a Homer, and maybe even a Ram or, perhaps, a Roadeo or Roadini. IMO, the Sam is too hefty for spirited riding on pavement alone, or for pavement and very occasional light dirt. Basically, the Bombadil and Jones are classics to keep. Add a sufficiently more road like bike. At least, that's what I'd do. I know that my Riv Roads are fully capable of handling firm dirt and gravel; nay, they are *fun* on firm dirt and gravel; so the other bike I've added (besides the folder) is a bike that has 50 mm tires (can fit 60s or greater) with a road like setup (road tubing, road bar and controls, road gearing 'cept a bit lower). On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 4:50 PM, DaveS wrote: > Good evening, my name is Dave and I have a problem, which it appears that > many others here do as well! I am reviewing my stable and find that I have > ended up building four of essentially the same bike.first, a Gen 1 > Fargo, fits great, with dirt drops, and spare wheel set with knobbies, the > second, the freak bike, and XL troll with heavy duty DH wheels, Velo Orange > Daija bars, front shock, Chris King, and related component builds, a jones > bike 29 plus and a big 60 cm bombadil built up with racks, Velo orange > porteau bars and related components.the bombadil and the fargo are my > primary road rides, primary on the Erie Canal and similar paved/dirt trails > in the area (upstate NY). The Jones is used as an off road, and snow bike > fitted with a fat front and the Troll was built up with spare parts to use > for CX. Unfortunately, when I built them I was about 150 pounds larger > than I am nowwhich brings me to my question and need for guidance. I > am going to sell the Troll (-1) plus or minus the Bombadil or Jones (-2) > and am considering replacing with a Homer or Sam.my thoughts is that > that would be a more road/paved fun bike f or longer riders, or Random type > rides now that I am much smaller. The overlap that I see is that the Fargo > and Bombadil would likely fit the same niche, but are not as sporty. So, > my question is, is there that much of a ride difference from the Bombadil > into a more country and road type Riv? I know that many of you have > multiple Riv's, and use them in many different ways...but the overlap in > the fleet seems to beg the consideration. Appreciate any input, this has > been a great board to learn from and you all got me into the Bombadil. And > if anyone is interested in the XL Troll, let me know! it will need a good > home! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ** ** *Interested in trading resume, LinkedIn, and other writing work for professional (professional) help with marketing and growing my resumes, etc. business. Respondents should have considerable experience in helping small, online businesses grow. Please contact me at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com . Thanks.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
