Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions
Y'know, I do have 2-3 feet of that narrow copper tubing, bought to customize cables for my S3X hubs. Must try it as cable ends; with glue, of course. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:30 AM, 'clayton bailey' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I am unfamiliar with the Jagwire pro housing cutter. It won't crush > diagonal wound brake housing? As far as cable caps, I use small diameter > copper tubing that I bought at a hobby shop. (I cut a 2" length of brake > and sis cable wire and took them into the store to try the fit). To me, > copper looks nicer than aluminum, and it has no 'lip'. (A tiny bit of > steampunk). A very gentle crimp is needed as the copper is soft. > I have no recommendation for diagonal cutters. I just buy whatever they > have at ACE. > If I remember to, when my phone gets fixed, I will try to post a vid of my > technique of cutting spiral wound brake housing. > > Clay > > > On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:38 AM, Kieran J wrote: > > > That's what I was going to say. The Jagwire Pro housing for both brake and > shift cuts cleanly and squarely without all this side business. I use the > Park tool and one cut, put on the ferrule and that's it. > > KJ > > > On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:19:29 AM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > I've found just recently that the nicer comlressionless housing from > Yokozuna and Jagwire doesn't end up with tha mangled end to the same degree > that older housing did. It just takes a quick squeeze and it's back to > being perfectly rounded. > -Justin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4L631KqMLG0/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ** ** *Interested in trading resume, LinkedIn, and other writing work for professional (professional) help with marketing and growing my resumes, etc. business. Respondents should have considerable experience in helping small, online businesses grow. Please contact me at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com . Thanks.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions
Good idea; I may try that; thanks -- all the more in that it will look nicer than a crushed cap. I really dislike the appearance of too-big brake cable caps squished down onto skinny derailleur cables. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Ian A wrote: > Patrick, > > Have you considered gluing the cable end caps in place? It can work well. > I just crimp, normally with really blunt wire cutters, because I haven't > yet found a glue that stays fluid in the bottle when left unused. But, with > the right technique, one can glue the end caps in place and be able to pull > them off at a later date, the advantage being the cable is not crushed and > can be rethreaded into housing. > > IanA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ** ** *Interested in trading resume, LinkedIn, and other writing work for professional (professional) help with marketing and growing my resumes, etc. business. Respondents should have considerable experience in helping small, online businesses grow. Please contact me at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com . Thanks.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions
KJ "What is this magical stuff, 'Jag Wire compressionless brake housing??'" OMG! Thanks so much KJ! I didn't know it existed. I have wondered why no one made it, but I obviously didn't look hard enough. Now that I do, I will never go back either. Guess I will retire my diagonal cutters now. Clay On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 9:41 AM, Kieran J wrote: Jagwire Pro is the housing, the Park Tool CN-10 is the cutter. After using compressionless brake housing, I will never go back to the traditional spiral stuff. KJ On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 12:30:36 PM UTC-4, Clayton wrote: I am unfamiliar with the Jagwire pro housing cutter. It won't crush diagonal wound brake housing? Clay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4L631KqMLG0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions
Jagwire Pro is the housing, the Park Tool CN-10 is the cutter. After using compressionless brake housing, I will never go back to the traditional spiral stuff. KJ On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 12:30:36 PM UTC-4, Clayton wrote: > > I am unfamiliar with the Jagwire pro housing cutter. It won't crush > diagonal wound brake housing? > > Clay > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions
I am unfamiliar with the Jagwire pro housing cutter. It won't crush diagonal wound brake housing? As far as cable caps, I use small diameter copper tubing that I bought at a hobby shop. (I cut a 2" length of brake and sis cable wire and took them into the store to try the fit). To me, copper looks nicer than aluminum, and it has no 'lip'. (A tiny bit of steampunk). A very gentle crimp is needed as the copper is soft. I have no recommendation for diagonal cutters. I just buy whatever they have at ACE.If I remember to, when my phone gets fixed, I will try to post a vid of my technique of cutting spiral wound brake housing. Clay On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 8:38 AM, Kieran J wrote: That's what I was going to say. The Jagwire Pro housing for both brake and shift cuts cleanly and squarely without all this side business. I use the Park tool and one cut, put on the ferrule and that's it. KJ On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 10:19:29 AM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote: I've found just recently that the nicer comlressionless housing from Yokozuna and Jagwire doesn't end up with tha mangled end to the same degree that older housing did. It just takes a quick squeeze and it's back to being perfectly rounded. -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/4L631KqMLG0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions
I always solder the end of the cable and never use end caps. Stainless cable and galvanized cable require different fluxes and solder. I use the Park cutter on both cable and housing and grind the housing flat on the grinder (I used a file for years until I got the grinder). Laing On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 9:17:57 AM UTC-7, Ian A wrote: > Patrick, > > Have you considered gluing the cable end caps in place? It can work well. > I just crimp, normally with really blunt wire cutters, because I haven't > yet found a glue that stays fluid in the bottle when left unused. But, with > the right technique, one can glue the end caps in place and be able to pull > them off at a later date, the advantage being the cable is not crushed and > can be rethreaded into housing. > > IanA > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions
Patrick, Have you considered gluing the cable end caps in place? It can work well. I just crimp, normally with really blunt wire cutters, because I haven't yet found a glue that stays fluid in the bottle when left unused. But, with the right technique, one can glue the end caps in place and be able to pull them off at a later date, the advantage being the cable is not crushed and can be rethreaded into housing. IanA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions
On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 7:59:57 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Next question: what do y'all use to crimp cable ends on the ends of > cables? > Regular wire cutters do pretty well if you're careful; I have a pair of old (and somewhat dull) cutters that I use for zipties, cord, and crimping (when I can find them in my bike mess!) They work really well if I want to do a crimp pattern instead of just mashing the cable end enough to cling to the cable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions
Clayton: can you recommend a pair of dikes? I've always used Park housing/cable cutters (it's a combined tool, meant to cut both) to cut standard housing, and while it does alright, I always have to finish the housing with a file or grinder. Will the dikes cut housing more cleanly? I will have to try your progressive method of cutting, though. I suppose I can always just use a Dremel, as someone else said he does. Next question: what do y'all use to crimp cable ends on the ends of cables? The little notch in my (other) Park cable-only cutter squishes them too much, but I fear that needle nosed pliers won't crimp them hard enough. (BTW, I prefer using the smallest possible crimps, such as derailleur cable crimps on road brake cable -- less distortion of crimp which = ugly. I must try heat shrink tubing, as I've got a lot of linear inches of the skinny stuff, somehow, which I don't have other use for. On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:24 AM, 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I never use housing cutters to cut cables. Housing cutters are made to >> cut SIS housing only. I use a decent quality one I bought at a bike shop. >> For brake housing, I use diagonal cutters (dikes, side cutter). I take the >> diagonal cutters and make little cuts all the way around the cable cutting >> the plastic covering only, but chomping hard enough that when one edge gets >> to the edge of in the wound housing, I can feel it. At that point I close >> the cutters so it splits open the crack and cuts it. No crushing. A few >> swipes with a file and an 'ice pick' to open the lining hole and it's good. >> Sharp Dikes cut the inner cables the best. >> > > Clay > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten ** ** *Interested in trading resume, LinkedIn, and other writing work for professional (professional) help with marketing and growing my resumes, etc. business. Respondents should have considerable experience in helping small, online businesses grow. Please contact me at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com . Thanks.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cable/Housing Cutter Suggestions
Hi Joe, I recommend getting separate cutters for both housing and cables. Get a rotary tool for cutting the housing and a good cable cutter for cables. Using a typical cable cutter closes the metal casing of the housing and does not leave a square edge. In addition, you will need a awl to reopen the housing hole to allow cables to run thru and metal file to get a square edge. Get a good quality cable cutter that last to cut the cables and you should be good. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > I've heard this phrase, "side cutter", for years. What does it look like? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
