Re: [RDA-L] Added elements for expressions

2012-06-06 Thread Keith R. Trimmer
I had just noticed yesterday, when I was looking at additions to uniform titles for expressions of multiple translations into the same language, the problems Adam pointed out in his email (I'm behind in my reading, as usual). However, I also noticed that E.1.2.5 says: Precede a general materi

Re: [RDA-L] "Work manifested" in new RDA examples

2012-06-06 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
The FRBR user tasks are like breathing and eating, and, no, a user doesn't have to have a full understanding of the bibliographic universe for them to pertain. There's also a point from project management -- avoid scope creep! RDA's scope is only translating AACR2 (and some planned updates) into

[RDA-L] ALCTS CAMMS Cataloging & Classification Research Interest Group meeting

2012-06-06 Thread Stepanova, Masha
This message is being posted to multiple lists. Sorry for any duplication! ALCTS CaMMS Cataloging & Classification Research Interest Group ALA Annual Meeting, Anaheim, CA Date: Sunday, June 24, 2012 Time: 10:30 am – Noon Location: Hyatt Regency Orange County – Grand Ballroom E Topic: Traditions

Re: [RDA-L] "Work manifested" in new RDA examples

2012-06-06 Thread Karen Coyle
On 6/6/12 10:09 AM, Brenndorfer, Thomas wrote: But that's the Select user task at play in this discussion. Users can select from amongst a result set, or they can pre-filter search results with limits, or algorithms can produce relevancy ranked results. Current catalogs have all kinds of respo

[RDA-L] Announcement of MARC Formats Interest Group panel at ALA

2012-06-06 Thread Seikel, Michele
The MARC Formats Interest Group invites you to its discussion meeting at ALA Annual. Saturday, June 23, 2012, 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. Anaheim Convention Center, Room 208B Topic: Issues in the Bibliographic Transition: Extending the Reach of Authority Data John Riemer will discuss how authority d

Re: [RDA-L] "Work manifested" in new RDA examples

2012-06-06 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
But that's the Select user task at play in this discussion. Users can select from amongst a result set, or they can pre-filter search results with limits, or algorithms can produce relevancy ranked results. Current catalogs have all kinds of responses. But the backdrop still would have all the p

Re: [RDA-L] "Work manifested" in new RDA examples

2012-06-06 Thread Karen Coyle
On 6/6/12 8:16 AM, Brenndorfer, Thomas wrote: The users that benefit from seeing all the resources that embody particular works and expressions include those with roles in acquisition, preservation, and reference. The idea that it's OK to not necessarily find all the resources is an odd asser

Re: [RDA-L] "Work manifested" in new RDA examples

2012-06-06 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
I think there's a different aspect of the Find user task involved here. For example, if one is presented with a manifestation, the user task is to Find all items that exemplify that manifestation. One doesn't retrace steps and do keyword searches and browse searches hoping that some new result s

Re: [RDA-L] Mini Tutorial: Keeping order in RDF and ISO Common Logic/IKL (was Re: [RDA-L] "Work manifested" in new RDA examples)

2012-06-06 Thread James Weinheimer
On 06/06/2012 02:43, Simon Spero wrote:* * > In situations where only some authors are given numeric rank, and the > rest are ordered by some other principal (e.g. lexicographic order, or > no order specified), we can just state the constraints on authorship > are, and leave the ordering to be dete

Re: [RDA-L] Mini Tutorial: Keeping order in RDF and ISO Common Logic/IKL (was Re: [RDA-L] "Work manifested" in new RDA examples)

2012-06-06 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Many thanks to Simon for this very useful roundup. It's good to be assured that there are ways of coping with ordered values in the representation languages. So now we "only" need to adjust RDA. I still wonder whether this apparent gap in the code (unless I've missed something important) was a

Re: [RDA-L] "Work manifested" in new RDA examples

2012-06-06 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Karen said: One advantage of clustering, in my view, is that bibliographic items can be clustered based on different criteria if desired. Thus communities that have a different view of Work or Expression from the *standard* RDA view can see the Work that meets their needs without having to re