[RDA-L] Annoucement of 2013 JSC meeting; revised documents posted

2013-05-02 Thread JSC Secretary
Dear colleagues, (1) JSC 2013 meeting: The 2013 meeting of the Joint Steering Committee for Development of RDA (JSC) will be the week of November 4-9, 2013, in Washington, D.C., USA. The deadline for proposals for this November 2013 meeting is August 5, 2013. Proposals for revision of RDA

Re: [RDA-L] Annoucement of 2013 JSC meeting; revised documents posted

2013-05-02 Thread Gene Fieg
Read the changes. Little hard to read them without context, the rest of the text. Question: what happens to a preferred access point if that person is knighted subsequent to his/her being established as a preferred access point. xref? On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:54 AM, JSC Secretary

[RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread Nancy Braman
What is the proper term for the person named in text as told to...? I've looked through the first draft and the MARC list and can't find anything appropriate. If it helps, the title page (in all caps in the book) reads as follows: The house Baba built An artist's childhood in China Text as

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread Bernadette Mary O'Reilly
I would use author for both the teller and the person told to, since they both make creator-level contributions to a work that is primarily textual in content. The examples in 19.2.1.3 for two or more entities responsible for the creation of the work performing different roles show that both

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread Joan Wang
I am not sure if we can use a term: teller. I got a similar situation. A book is told by A, translated by B, and proofread by C. There might be a better term. I feel that my vocabulary is a kind of limited in this regard. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, May 2, 2013

[RDA-L] FW: NACO question--qualifying conference names

2013-05-02 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
I sent this email to the pcc list almost three hours ago and it hasn't distributed. Maybe it got sequestered?? Anyways, if anyone has a good answer to my question below I'd appreciate it. --Ben Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging Coordinator Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT

Re: [RDA-L] FW: NACO question--qualifying conference names

2013-05-02 Thread Gene Fieg
Whatever it calls itself And make a xref from name (Conference) to the 1XX name (symposium) On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Benjamin A Abrahamse babra...@mit.eduwrote: I sent this email to the pcc list almost three hours ago and it hasn't distributed. Maybe it got sequestered?? ** **

Re: [RDA-L] Readability

2013-05-02 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Joan, I've just reread the principle of differentiation (0.4.3.1), asking myself whether this could somehow be stretched to include the matter of readabiliy and the problem of mixing up different kinds of punctuation, but I don't think it works. This principle seems to be all about

Re: [RDA-L] Readability

2013-05-02 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
Something like the principle of making things easy for the user seems to be sadly missing from RDA. If we look through 0.4.2.1 Responsiveness to user needs, we find a list of things that users should be able to do with our data, but nowhere does it say that they should find it easy to do this

Re: [RDA-L] Readability

2013-05-02 Thread Joan Wang
Heidrun Thanks for your reply. My thought is that the purpose of a modification of punctuations included in a title is to avoid a misunderstanding or confusion. So it will help users to differentiate a resource from others, and then make a selection. When we are doing cataloging, we may not know

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
I haven't seen the book, so I'm not certain about the exact nature of Libby Kopolen's contribution. Does she act like some sort of interviewer, asking questions? Then I would agree that she should be seen as another author. But if she's really only the person the story is told to, then I find

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Postscriptum: I just found some more information on the book, and it said: Young’s creation, shaped with help from author Libby Koponen, (...). So probably it is really the best thing to treat them both as creators and use author in both cases, although Koponen's contribution is here

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Nancy Braman posted: The house Baba built An artist's childhood in China Text as told to Libby Kopolen Ed Young For Kopolen we would use: ivr Interviewer and for Young: ive Interviewee These codes (without the words) would go in $4, or the words (lower case and withouth the code) would

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for as told to

2013-05-02 Thread John Hostage
As told to is a common formulation on books from prominent people. The person the story was told to is kind of like a ghostwriter, except their identity is not hidden. I would definitely consider them a creator, but it's hard to tell from the title page how extensive their role was. This is