Re: [RDA-L] Questions for videodisc reproduction of videocassette

2013-09-27 Thread M. E.
Deborah Fritz debo...@marcofquality.com wrote: However, there doesn't seem to be a relationship designator for 'producer'; or rather, there is one, but it is assigned to: producer: A person, family, or corporate body responsible for most of the business aspects of a production for screen,

[RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?

2013-09-27 Thread Karen Nelson
Hi, everyone; Could we get some postings on what others are doing now with the GMD? There are lots of opinions out there on this, I know. Accepting but not displaying in OPAC? Displaying? Etc. Some rationales would be helpful too. My librarian thanks you!

Re: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts

2013-09-27 Thread M. E.
Tarango, Adolfo atara...@ucsd.edu wrote: Weighing in with trepidation to comment on the part of 2.8.1.3 addressing the appearance of publication data. Note, that 2.8.1.3 states a condition must be met, that when *bo**th* publication data of the reproducer and the original are found on the

Re: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts

2013-09-27 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
Nonexistent data for an element such as Production Statement can still mean there is a Production Statement. There is also the method to record the subelements in a production statement or publication statement if known or probable data cannot be determined. A related manifestation element

Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?

2013-09-27 Thread Mary Mastraccio
Based on what our customers request, it depends on what the local system requires. Some systems require a GMD (245$h)-- of these customers some ask that we retain the 245$h, even if they are getting RDA conversion. Other customers ask us to generate a GMD (245$h) if it does not exist and there

Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles and Selections

2013-09-27 Thread Gene Fieg
I cannot find that the current authority file. I assume it is a title entry under 130 On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.eduwrote: I found Zhen'gao |K Selections |l English, as the uniform title/preferred access point for a work that is a translation of the

Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?

2013-09-27 Thread Sally Carroll
Ditto for us, Sally Carroll-Ricks, MLS, MM, AHIP Technical Systems/E-Resources Librarian Blumberg Memorial Library http://bulldogs.tlu.edu/libraryhttp://www.tlu.edu/library Subject Liaison for music, film, theater, dance, science and technology (including health sciences and kinesiology)

Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?

2013-09-27 Thread Kathleen Lamantia
We are also keeping the gmd. Patrons and staff both count on it for quick and easy identifying of which record is desired. It should be noted however, that we use non-standard gmds of our own construction - dvd, cd, book on cd, compact disc, etc - so they are really more like smds. We have

Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?

2013-09-27 Thread Bruce Rennie
FWIW, here's what we're doing, and our rationale... Don't know if it's good or bad, or if it's for everyone... At present we are retaining GMD's in AACR2, and adding GMD's to RDA. (Sorry, but we are.) Presently we're supporting two separate OPAC products, one of which is old and has very

Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?

2013-09-27 Thread Cary Isley
Although we catalog almost exclusively in RDA, we add GMD post-export to non-book materials because the librarians want that information in the short-line displays of the initial hit lists and our current-generation ILS does not presently have the ability to generate functionally equivalent

Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles and Selections

2013-09-27 Thread Adger Williams
Yes On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu wrote: I cannot find that the current authority file. I assume it is a title entry under 130 On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.eduwrote: I found Zhen'gao |K Selections |l English, as the

Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles and Selections

2013-09-27 Thread Adger Williams
Sorry. The AR in question is n 2013008942. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Gene Fieg gf...@cst.edu wrote: I cannot find that the current authority file. I assume it is a title entry under 130 On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Adger Williams awilli...@colgate.eduwrote: I found Zhen'gao

Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?

2013-09-27 Thread McDonald, Stephen
We are leaving a GMD if it is present (in both AACR2 and RDA records), but we are not adding a GMD to an RDA record if one is not present. We are following the principle of least work-it doesn't hurt our system right now if it is present in an old RDA record, but we won't add it.

Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles and Selections

2013-09-27 Thread Hideyuki Morimoto
Is that title entry under field 130 different from the one represented by LC NAR entered under field 100: LCCN: n 2013008942 100 1_ Tao, Hongjing, |d 452-536. |t Zhen gao. |k Selections. |l English then? ===

Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?

2013-09-27 Thread Adam Schiff
I do hope that libraries that are using non-standard GMDs do not include them in any records that they contribute to OCLC. If including GMDs in shared records, they should be the valid ones from AACR2. Adam Schiff University of Washington Libraries From: Kathleen Lamantia Sent: Friday,

Re: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts

2013-09-27 Thread Tarango, Adolfo
That would take of it, thanks Mark, I did say with trepidation. :) Adolfo From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of M. E. Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:40 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re:

Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?

2013-09-27 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
That's similar to our situation. Once we went with a system that used fixed field generated icons, the GMD was a burden. The icon also produces an equivalent term that is appended to titles in the Title Browse index, which means the last place the GMD had any value was gone. In the regular

Re: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts

2013-09-27 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
Also getting into new territory for me, would the RDA Manuscript-related elements (RDA 3.9.2) apply for a single cataloged print-out of a published electronic resource? Production Method for Manuscript: printout Scratch that idea. Better to apply the basic RDA concept of choosing the right

Re: [RDA-L] Uniform titles and Selections

2013-09-27 Thread Adger Williams
Sorry, my fingers slipped. The access point I am interested in is presented by this authority record. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Hideyuki Morimoto hm2...@columbia.eduwrote: Is that title entry under field 130 different from the one represented by LC NAR entered under field 100:

Re: [RDA-L] Role of relators and labels in display

2013-09-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
The knowledgeable Mark said: Creator: Doe, Jane Publisher: ABC Media (New York, N.Y.) Owner: Smith, John If the OPAC supplies Publisher as the label for 264 1, then certainly the printer of a one off copy of the electronic resource should *not* be coded 264 1. Publisher name and date are

Re: [RDA-L] Questions for videodisc reproduction of videocassette

2013-09-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Carolyn Phillips said: I agree with Deborah that Great Lakes Video Services is the producer of the reproduction, but the definition of the relationship designator producer as I read it, does not apply. You are correct there I think. We have introduced manufacturer as a relationship

Re: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts

2013-09-27 Thread Adam L. Schiff
And now, with this announcement, there is a simple way to propose new relationship designators, at least for PCC members: The process for fast tracking PCC proposals for new and revised relationship designators has been developed. A form is posted on the PCC website

Re: [RDA-L] GMD - where is everyone on this?

2013-09-27 Thread Dave Van Kleeck
As our ILS does not display icons, my director has asked us to add the GMD to RDA records. We do this with our local records only, not in records we contribute to OCLC. For us, the GMD is valuable to both users and staff. Sometime soon we hope to have the 33X fields enabled for display and

Re: [RDA-L] Role of relators and labels in display

2013-09-27 Thread M. E.
If the OPAC supplies Publisher as the label for 264 1, then certainly the printer of a one off copy of the electronic resource should *not* be coded 264 1. Publisher name and date are important clues to the authority and currency of a resource. True enough. Who printed it when is not