[RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
I'm rather unsure about what the title and statement of responsibility area should look like if there is both a formal name of the conference and a specific title of a conference on the preferred source of information. Let's consider the following example (which I've translated from German to

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Gene Fieg
I am not speaking for every American cataloger here, but we would have the m.e as the conference since it is a named conference. A parallel to this would be if you had the title followed by statement of responsibility with a personal name and did not make the personal name the main entry or

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Gene, Thanks, but perhaps I didn't explain my problem clearly enough. It's not about the main entry - I had indeed assumed that the conference would be creator according to 19.2.1.1.1 d). My problem is about the bibliographical description of such an item. Where does the name of the

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Thomas Berger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 05.08.2013 17:56, schrieb Heidrun Wiesenmüller: --- 100th CONFERENCE OF GERMAN LIBRARIANS IN BERLIN 2011 LIBRARIES FOR THE FUTURE - FUTURE FOR THE LIBRARIES [this is printed slightly smaller than

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Gene Fieg
Without seeing the actual item, I would place it in the area of resp. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de wrote: Gene, Thanks, but perhaps I didn't explain my problem clearly enough. It's not about the main entry - I had indeed assumed that

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Gene, Without seeing the actual item, I would place it in the area of resp. Sorry, that was too much shorthand for a non-native speaker: Does resp here mean the same as depends? If so, on what - the layout? If you want to have a closer look, here's a scan of the title page:

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Gene Fieg
I meant area of responsibility. The 245 line would read [title] / |c [name of conference] On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Heidrun Wiesenmüller wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de wrote: Gene, Without seeing the actual item, I would place it in the area of resp. Sorry, that was too much

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Thanks, Gene. Now all is revealed (actually, I should have been able to work that one out myself...) I'm quite happy to hear that. German catalogers will have to get used to so many new things; it's rather nice if some things stay the same. Heidrun On 05.08.2013 19:46, Gene Fieg wrote: I

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Arakawa, Steven
Based on the layout in the scan, I would have transcribed the 100. Deutscher Bibliothekartag as the title proper, Bibliotheken fur die Zukunft as the other title, and Herausgaben von Ulrich Hohoff etc as the statement of responsibility. I would have provided variant access for the other

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Ben, your two cents are, as usual, worth a lot more than that ;-) I hadn't realized that RDA has brought a change here. Now I understand why I found so many cases of the conference name as other title information in the catalogs. Thanks also for pointing out the subtle difference in the

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
I meant, of course, Bibliotheken not Biblitheken. --Ben Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging Coordinator Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries 617-253-7137 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of

Re: [RDA-L] Names of conferences as title proper, other title information or statement of responsiblity

2013-08-05 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Heidrun posted: 100th CONFERENCE OF GERMAN LIBRARIANS IN BERLIN 2011 LIBRARIES FOR THE FUTURE - FUTURE FOR THE LIBRARIES [this is printed slightly smaller than the name of the conference above, but still in capitals] edited by Ulrich Hohoff and Daniela Luelfing -- 245 10