"Really? Has anyone out there in the industry even noticed? What
*might* get noticed is a change in communication formats, but not in
rules."
This is what I have been thinking about for a
while as I read these discussions:
What if we gave a standard and
nobody came, but some other powerful, obli
; RDA from
scratch?
Ford
> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:16:33 +0100
> From: e...@biblio.tu-bs.de
> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA Toolkit Price Change
> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
>
> Am 23.11.2013 17:55, schrieb Melissa Powell:
> > ... There is no 'choice', the
Am 23.11.2013 17:55, schrieb Melissa Powell:
... There is no 'choice', the rules have
changed.
They *got* changed.
This is the first step to compliance with the rest of the
information industry.
Really? Has anyone out there in the industry even noticed?
What *might* get noticed is a change
On 11/24/2013 9:20 PM, Melissa Powell wrote:
I think the best thing to do in all of this is look at the big picture. Smart
discussions occurred when we began automating. What do we give up?
The better question is, What does this change? Based on that you start looking
at how the staff workfl
eed to be the ones making the choices and decisions so we aren't
in the position of being dictated to by the vendors. We need to be one step
ahead and learning, understanding, and creating.
Melissa
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA Toolkit Price Change
From: Julie M
ll
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of James Weinheimer
> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 5:42 AM
> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> Subject: Re: [RDA-L]
On 11/23/2013 5:55 PM, Melissa Powell wrote:
This cataloging consultant/trainer who works with small libraries is piping
in. I am grateful for the price reduction for the rest of us--with the new
pricing structure I can actually get RDA access to these small and rural
libraries.
On the other h
Melissa Powell said:
>There is no 'choice', the rules have changed.
While there is no choice that we must cope with RDA records derived
from national cataloguing agencies and bibliographic utilities,
several choices do remain:
1) Will RDA be implemented for local original cataloguing? Many
libr
scription and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of James Weinheimer
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 5:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA Toolkit Price Change
On 11/23/2013 12:53 AM, J. McRee Elrod wrote:
> James said:
>> Of course, when the
On 11/23/2013 12:53 AM, J. McRee Elrod wrote:
James said:
Of course, when the time comes for retrospective conversion of the
millions of records in that awful, terrible "legacy data" ...
Surely you jest. Most of our library clients prefer the "awful
terrible 'legacy data'" to the strange (to
Julie Moore posted:
>This pricing is going to squeeze libraries out of the market. Catalogers
>who cannot cough up this kind of money will either have to buy the paper
>and live with a far less superior version of RDA than the Toolkit ... or
>just catalog blindly without access to the rules.
>This
James said:
>Of course, when the time comes for retrospective conversion of the
>millions of records in that awful, terrible "legacy data" ...
Surely you jest. Most of our library clients prefer the "awful
terrible 'legacy data'" to the strange (to them) RDA records. Our
AACR2 compatible expo
If the cost of changing that awful legacy data is prohibitively high, what good
are all the wonderful things that cannot be fully implemented. Price change is
one thing, product changes another. If the Toolkit continues to be unfinished,
unstable, untried, what's to say how much, or little it ma
On 11/22/2013 4:29 PM, Abbas, June M. wrote:
I would also like to note that LIS schools will now be charged for
access to the Toolkit. In my case this will make it very difficult to
provide access to the Toolkit for my students. I am not sure why ALA
Publishing decided to require LIS schools
, November 22, 2013 9:41 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] RE : [RDA-L] RDA Toolkit Price Change
You can access usage statistics through the Administartion System
http://admin.rdatoolkit.org/. More information is available in the RDA Toolkit
help.
Daniel Paradis
Bibliothécaire
22, 2013 9:16 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA Toolkit Price Change
Are you serious?! This is outrageous! Do you know how difficult it was to lobby
to get RDA Toolkit for our libraries in the first place? (Many administrators
did not
ac-bac.gc.ca
Objet : Re: [RDA-L] RDA Toolkit Price Change
I completely agree with Julie. Instead of considering whether to increase our
number of users, we will most likely have to scale back to a bare minimum and
hope we can still work efficiently.
On that note, does anyone know if we c
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA Toolkit Price Change
Are you serious?! This is outrageous! Do you know how difficult it was to lobby
to get RDA Toolkit for our libraries in the first place? (Many administrators
did not really see the need to move from AACR2 to RDA in the first place.) I
thought the
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Walker, Elizabeth
[lizzy.wal...@wichita.edu]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:25 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA Toolkit Price Change
What?!!! Thanks
Libraries
1845 Fairmount St.
Wichita, KS 67260-0068
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Julie Moore
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:16 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA Toolkit Price
Are you serious?! This is outrageous! Do you know how difficult it was to
lobby to get RDA Toolkit for our libraries in the first place? (Many
administrators did not really see the need to move from AACR2 to RDA in the
first place.) I thought the pricing was high before -- for a basic tool
that eve
Isn't it amazing that *nobody* has commented on the new prices for the
RDA Toolkit?
Looking at http://www.rdatoolkit.org/content/2014pricechange, I had a
short moment of mirth when I noticed that the symbol for the British
pound is used for the Euro prices as well (let's wait and see whether i
Effective January 1, 2014 RDA Toolkit will be extending a new pricing
model for site subscriptions. This change will make implementation of
RDA: Resource Description Access more accessible for small cataloging
departments and will more fairly distribute the cost of subscription
across all sizes of
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