Re: [RDA-L] German cataloging rules "RAK"

2013-02-04 Thread Charles Croissant
certainly be room for any number of scholarly essays there. Charles Croissant Senior Catalog Librarian Pius XII Memorial Library Saint Louis University St. Louis, MO 63108 On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:54 AM, John Hostage wrote: > There was a collection of essays called RAK versus AACR :

Re: [RDA-L] S-o-R/RDA 2.4.1.4

2013-03-12 Thread Charles Croissant
on persons' affiliations could be recorded in our authority records -- is it really necessary to repeat it all in our bibliographic records as well? Charles Croissant Senior Catalog Librarian Pius XII Memorial Library Saint Louis University St. Louis, MO 63108 On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:07

Re: [RDA-L] question about a Bible heading

2013-03-28 Thread Charles Croissant
to question if we follow the logic above about extra-canonical books. There may be a need here to propose a change to the instructions. I'd be interested in hearing from others who have lots of Bible-related headings to deal with. <http://access.rdatoolkit.org/document.php?id=rdachp6&

Re: [RDA-L] Initials in names of persons

2013-04-17 Thread Charles Croissant
ters of indexing. > Many systems here simply ignore full stops in indexing. So without internal > spaces we would end up with "PC" in the index instead of "P" and "C". > > Heidrun > > > -- > ----- > Prof. Heidrun Wiesen

Re: [RDA-L] "Authorized Version" (6.23.2.9.2)

2013-05-16 Thread Charles Croissant
this is an Anglocentric usage and as such should be a candidate for rewording, if RDA indeed aspires to be an international cataloging code. I would strongly support a rewording of the rule along the lines she suggests. Charles Croissant Senior Catalog Librarian Pius XII Memorial Library Saint Louis Uni

Re: [RDA-L] Titles of nobility

2013-10-16 Thread Charles Croissant
an access point, and sometimes as both". Could you give me an > example for the first case in current cataloging? I can only think of a > scenario where, on principle, no access points are used for persons, > because otherwise 9.19.1.2 would apply. > > Heidrun > > > --

Re: [RDA-L] Government, jurisdiction, territorial authority?

2013-11-11 Thread Charles Croissant
gt; betreffende Gebietskoerperschaft die vollziehende Gewalt ausuebt." Note > that they also used "Gebietskoerperschaft" for "government". > > Perhaps the question was discussed by the AACR2 translation team as well. > If so, perhaps Charles Croissant, who was a

Re: [RDA-L] Identifying a person of religious vocation

2013-12-17 Thread Charles Croissant
tra 400 1_ $a Goretti, Maria 400 0_ $a Maria Goretti, $c Siostra The one form that is not admissible under RDA is 100 1_ $a Goretti, Maria, $c Siostra since in this case the name chosen contains a surname, in which case "Siostra" should *not* be treated as an integral part of the name.

Re: [RDA-L] Identifying a person of religious vocation

2013-12-18 Thread Charles Croissant
t; Tel.: +44 (0)1937 546806 > > E-mail: richard.mo...@bl.uk > > > > > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Charles Croissant > *Sent:* 17 December 2013 20:03 > *To:* RDA-L@

New comment on 2.1.1.1

2006-01-10 Thread Charles Croissant
Like several others on this list, I stumbled over the use of the phrase "not sequentially numbered in paragraphs ii) and iii) of 2.1.1.1. Marg Stewart's email of 1/6/2006 (appended below) would appear to confirm that this phrase is intended to cover the situation where the numbered volumes of a

Re: AW: [RDA-L] 1.6.8. Inaccuracies

2006-01-13 Thread Charles Croissant
Bernhard Eversberg wrote: Gunilla Jonsson wrote: I find the proposed treatment better, both from a principal point of view and a practical one. ... For the sake of global record exchange, it is also better to follow the instruction proposed in 1.6.8 -- you cannot be sure that all cataloguers

1.6.8 Inaccuracies, Example

2006-01-13 Thread Charles Croissant
The second example under the first bullet of 1.6.8., "The Paul Anthony Buck lectures", is taken from the text of AACR2, 1998 Revision, rule 1.0F, where it appears in the form: The Paul Anthony Buck [i.e. Brick] lectures As printed in RDA, however, it makes no sense without an explanatory note

Re: more on inaccuracies

2006-01-26 Thread Charles Croissant
Bernhard Eversberg wrote: Adam Schiff wrote: I think I am in agreement with rule 1.6.8 that says to transcribe an inaccuracy as it appears. I now think that this should be done in all instances, and that a uniform title should be made to correct the inaccuracy. Establishing a uniform titl

Re: Draft of RDA part A, chapters 6-7 (initial articles in titles)

2006-07-25 Thread Charles Croissant
John Hostage wrote: Our rules for omitting initial articles are based on the limitations of our 20th-century systems. I don't think RDA is or should be concerned with such MARC implementation issues. We librarians have gotten used to it, but there are many titles that look odd without the in