Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
I must have missed this in your post! https://solar.schneider-electric.com/solution/centralised-solar-power-plants-1500v/ You can navigate to their engineering team. I have found that once you have a case number you communicate easily with e-mail. --Dave > I appreciate everyone's replies so

[RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread jay
There are many large 250kw to multi mw battery based inverters that should cover this project. Most are coming out of china, so I don’t know if UL is something they have. Princeton is one here in the USA, looks like 250kw and 500kwh is their largest on the web site. Sun Grow is one of many

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Ray
I appreciate everyone's replies so far. First, we already have an electronic soft start control, it just needs to be reprogrammed to reduce the starting surge more.  Second, we are way beyond 48v land.  We are in the realm of commercial scale inverters of at least 500 kW to 1.5 MW.  They will

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
I know Schneider would love to sell you their cluster of 15 XW6848+ for a max of 102KW and probably well over 300KW of surge. Here is a link to their commercial offgrid. I do own their stock and other companies also :) Their commercial engineers are pretty smart about this.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread bzp
Try a three phase soft starter. Programmable start ramp time with relay bypass. Not as expensive as a full blown VFD. Frank BZP. On 4/26/2018 9:17 AM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote: Agree with Daryl here at the end. You have to solve the motor surge with variable frequency drive and go

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Kevin Pegg
Hello Ray, I have a couple 60/100 kW SMA Sunny Island systems out there, systems with 100 kW generators, 400 kWh battery banks and generally token renewable inputs. I feel with this configuration we close maxing out what can be done with 48VDC. Getting into the MW scale scares me to be

[RE-wrenches] Large off grid inverter

2018-04-26 Thread Hilton Dier
A tough assignment, but Daryl has the right idea. A company I used to work for did large off grid systems and would use something they called a rotary capacitor (or something like that). It was a large induction motor paralleled into the grid. It had a DC pony motor and some synchro

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Ray
We're not too worried about reducing the surge at this point; the existing soft start controller is currently programmed for a fast start, because their electrician was worried about motor damage if the controller was set to limit current.  It is currently surging to 700% of run current, so we

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large Off Grid Inverter?

2018-04-26 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Agree with Daryl here at the end. You have to solve the motor surge with variable frequency drive and go 3 phase. If there is a reasonable cost to use the grid I would not even bother with quoting an off the grid solution. It is what the grid is best at and batteries are the wrong way for this.