Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Steve Higgins
Hey Guys you do have some great points.Here are my comments. *Taking Readings while EQ'ing. * Yes, this is not fun, and one of the big reasons I'm not a big fan of EQ'ing at all. As a matter of fact, I tell people all the time if you properly charge your battery bank on a regular basis,

[RE-wrenches] Sol ark 120v issues

2021-02-09 Thread Ben's Solar and Battery
Jay, That was probably me. I did try it again (on camera again) and it started the compressor 3 times in a row. There could have been an unbalanced load on 1 leg, but I'm not sure. Sol-Ark says they've mostly fixed this issue, so I'll be doing a firmware update and trying the test again. I'll

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Dana Orzel
My recommendation on the HUPS that I install are: Use a refractometer! Check your SG, & compare all cells & if highest to lowest – If 0.02 or less no need to EQ. If 0.04 or greater time to EQ. I water every 8 weeks with a pump watering system, winter about

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Steve Higgins
Good morning everyone. The reason you don't fill to full before you EQ is you want to prevent water loss due to pressure.During the EQ process, there is lots of gassing and pressure, part of the reason you should loosen the 1/4 bayonet caps on the tops of the battery If the water level is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol ark 120v issues

2021-02-09 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Yes that has happened with 2 of mine Jerry. I like the Transformer Devils that I know. Might check these out in 2 or 3 years. The whole all in one does not really appeal to me either but I will keep an open mind, in 2 or 3 years! Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't"

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
A main point to the choir is that each manufacturer has their own recommendations. The US battery I often use has monthly EQ. Looking at 30 years of batteries here and the Offgrid manufactures seem to change what they like over time. Sometimes it is so complicated that I can't expect my client

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread RE Ellison
Probably preaching to the choir here and I’m sure not gonna argue with Surrette But the purpose of equalization is to stir up the electrolyte so you have the same strength from the top to the bottom Some of the older industrial cells had a tube where you could sample it all the way down to the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread William Miller
Friends: Thanks for the replies. I am going to assume Howie is not eating his batteries during any point of the recharge process. A few respondents are not aware of constraints against watering batteries prior to charging. Here is a typical passage from a battery O manual, below. This is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Ray
Dave makes a good point; I also don't recommend opening the cells while they are charging at a high rate.   I like to get SG readings with the electrolyte being mixed by bubbling, but I turn off the charging sources, and let it settle down for a few minutes, before opening caps. And I second

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol ark 120v issues

2021-02-09 Thread Jerry Shafer
It is also interesting how sol ark sells over the counter to end users and also through distributors but at nearly the same price so it makes it difficult for our distributors to carry the sol ark products. Jerry On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 7:42 AM Jay wrote: > It is odd that the 12kw 20kw surge sol

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol ark 120v issues

2021-02-09 Thread Roland - RES
We have been successful with double and triple Sol-Arks being able to start just about any single phase loads, the imbalance tolerance is multiplied per inverter. Like others we had numerous single inverter sites having issues offgrid, primarily while completing construction, chop saws and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sol ark 120v issues

2021-02-09 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Is anyone aware if this is alleviated with a parallel connected pair of inverters? I'm not saying that is the right solution, but it might not matter in a larger parallel connected system. On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 10:24 AM Jay wrote: > It is odd that the 12kw 20kw surge sol ark can’t run a 15 amp

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
That does not sound best to me. I get the point but there are much better ways. Not good for you to be close around a bank in EQ. If you are checking water level every month the level should not be really low. You do this in case you miss a cell a month back! You should be counting as the water

[RE-wrenches] Fwd: Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Tump
> Begin forwarded message: > > From: Jeff Myles > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level > Date: February 9, 2021 at 8:54:04 AM EST > T > Cc: > The main reason the manual instructs not to top up all cells before > equalizing is to avoid overfilling to/up

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Ray
I think the instructions to "not add water before EQing" are just that the fluid levels will rise as the batteries come to full charge, so you don't want to end up with over filled cells.  I would advise to just fill all the cells to at least a 1/4 to 1/2" over the moss plates, but to be a

[RE-wrenches] Sol ark 120v issues

2021-02-09 Thread Jay
It is odd that the 12kw 20kw surge sol ark can’t run a 15 amp 120v air compressor I saw a you tube video from what appears to be a pretty well versed installer who mentioned that sol ark knows this is an issue and specifically mentioned that his small air compressor will shut his 12kw inverter

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Jay
Hi william My experience shows me that first filling with water to normal full mark and then eq provides the best results Many years ago I had my own battery bank that needed an eq. Newer batteries well maintained They were low on water but within the normal range. After 2 eq the sg were

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Mark Frye
My Rolls manual says: "It is recommended to water the battery cells half way through the equalization. This is to assure the water is completely mixed into the electrolyte." ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Specific Gravity versus Electrolyte Level

2021-02-09 Thread Howie Michaelson
William, It certainly is possible I've missed something, but I've never seen any references to not eating batteries before equalizing. If anything, there is statements saying make sure to check levels before equalizing. I'm not sure why you wouldn't bring levels up before equalizing... Howie