Re: [RE-wrenches] Growatt 5k inverter w/ transformer, more China junk?

2021-01-05 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
We want to see the certificate of compliance for UL and all the good paperwork for power system electronics, especially offgrid. Most in the Sierra can't get fire insurance so we build even better redundant systems with that in mind. I do not care so much where the equipmens origin is as much

Re: [RE-wrenches] Growatt 5k inverter w/ transformer, more China junk?

2021-01-05 Thread Chris Sparadeo
I totally get that most off-grid jobs won’t be inspected, however isn’t it still a good idea for components to carry a UL listing in the event of a fire? It seems like an easy thing for a fire investigator/insurance company to pick out, even if it was not the origin of the fire. That’s been a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Growatt 5k inverter w/ transformer, more China junk?

2021-01-05 Thread Chris Mason
The Growatt inverters are top quality, they ship a huge amount of inverters. They make US models in split phase. What happened here is the client ordered something he knew nothing about from a vendor that also knew nothing. I run into this all the time. That's what we get the big bucks for. We buy

Re: [RE-wrenches] Growatt 5k inverter w/ transformer, more China junk?

2021-01-04 Thread Ray
20 years ago, I thought I had to fix every solar problem that crossed my path.  I've since gone into a 12 step recovery program, and have successfully stayed "solar sober" for the past decade, with only a very occasional relapse.  The Wrenches list has many a recovering "solarholic" among its

Re: [RE-wrenches] Growatt 5k inverter w/ transformer, more China junk?

2021-01-04 Thread Dan Fink
Chris; Of course as Kent points out, the equipment does not appear to be UL listed, so would not pass inspection. But, I realize there are situations where a UL listing is not required. It appears to me that the Growatt/Huawei setup this person bought is very similar to the architecture of the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Growatt 5k inverter w/ transformer, more China junk?

2021-01-04 Thread jay
I just was looking at them the other day. They do make US versions. I don’t think they are junk, Growatt is one if not the largest inverter company in the world. jay > On Jan 4, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Chris Schaefer wrote: > > G'Day and Happy New Year's All, > > Just wanted to share this with

Re: [RE-wrenches] Growatt 5k inverter w/ transformer, more China junk?

2021-01-04 Thread Kent Osterberg
The "Contact Us" page on their website gives a contact number in China. And none of the documentation shows a UL listing. I would tell the customer that I can't install it - too risky. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 1/4/2021 3:33 PM, Chris Schaefer wrote: G'Day and Happy New Year's

[RE-wrenches] Growatt 5k inverter w/ transformer, more China junk?

2021-01-04 Thread Chris Schaefer
G'Day and Happy New Year's All, Just wanted to share this with you all. A potential client purchased a somewhat complete system off the internet and is now seeking an installer. I know, same old story. The package came with two Growatt SPF-5000 ES inverters with two Huawei HW-TX-5000