Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-28 Thread Christopher Warfel
CMP-4 strikes again!   That one is pretty obvious.  Accessible battery disconnect requirement no so much.  Christopher Warfel On 10/28/2020 12:40 PM, Brian Mehalic wrote: There's very "territorial" language in the 2020 NEC 705.11(D): "For meter socket enclosures or other equipment under the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-28 Thread Brian Mehalic
There's very "territorial" language in the 2020 NEC 705.11(D): "For meter socket enclosures or other equipment under the exclusive control of the electric utility, only connections approved by the electric utility shall be permitted." Brian Mehalic NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installation

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-28 Thread August Goers
Others have pointed this out, but I thought I'd just add a bit of info based on my experience - the issue is not so much whether you can do a supply side connection or not, as that is allowed in the code. The issue is whether you can do wiring in a section of equipment that is only for the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-28 Thread James Jefferson Jarvis
Hopefully Wisconsin is better than Minnesota about this. As a former Wisconsin resident, I doubt it...but here is how some of this works in Minnesota, lest you have any illusion that a PSC or a state cares about you. In Minnesota the state allows the utility to essentially make any

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-28 Thread Kristopher Schmid
Thanks for all the discussion and insight. I believe the main issue here is them being territorial about the meter socket (they did not install it and they do not own it). My follow up question to them was, "I assume that you allow a 320 A meter socket feeding two main panels. Is this

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-28 Thread Kirpal
Hi Kris. Here in Southern Oregon our utility if Pacific Power. They also will not allow us to do any kind of connection of tap inside the meter box even with code approved connection methods. They consider the meter can "their property" We are allowed supply side connections via any other AHJ

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-28 Thread Matt Partymiller
-wrenches] Supply side denial I would think that would be illegal. They don't have jurisdiction on supply side taps. It's past the meter, and expressly allowed in the NEC. I would definitely first ask to talk to a higher level person than the one denying it (paper trail important). If that does

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-28 Thread Christopher Warfel
I would think that would be illegal.  They don't have jurisdiction on supply side taps. It's past the meter, and expressly allowed in the NEC.  I would definitely first ask to talk to a higher level person than the one denying it (paper trail important). If that does not work, then the PSC is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-27 Thread Glenn Burt
@redwoodalliance.orgDate: Tue, Oct 27, 2020 7:43 PMTo: RE-wrenches;Cc: Subject:Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial AEP Won't let us do a line side tap. We can tap into the line side and install another service as permitted by the Rule of Six. I have used the Eaton, 4 space breaker box with 2 spaces

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-27 Thread drake . chamberlin
AEP Won't let us do a line side tap. We can tap into the line side and install another service as permitted by the Rule of Six. I have used the Eaton, 4 space breaker box with 2 spaces for the service disconnect and 2 for the PV connection. Supposedly you can use a main breaker retainer,

[RE-wrenches] Supply side denial

2020-10-27 Thread Kristopher Schmid
Hi All, I have a utility that is hinting that they are going to deny my interconnection application with a supply side connection and require a load side. Has anyone seen this before? (Proposed interconnection would be with Milbank step lugs in a 200 A socket and a 60 A fused disconnect within