Re: [RE-wrenches] Damaged PV module cells

2023-07-16 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
Kent I can assume there is no backsheet external damage, These look cell fractures, more common on poly, they may be cause of manufacturing or a result of overheating traces or both. Run an IR Curve test and see if this is resulting in decreased output. Sharp had a similar issue when they stepped

Re: [RE-wrenches] Damaged PV module cells

2023-07-16 Thread Kent via RE-wrenches
It took some time digging into internet images but I found a YouTube video of the same type of defect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3a9AW24T_o I can see that microcracks are the likely cause. The prevalence of 45 degree angles seems weird though. Monocrystalline cells should have a random

Re: [RE-wrenches] Damaged PV module cells

2023-07-16 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches
These days modules are so cheap, and so much more efficient, that I just reuse the racks, even if the existing modules are good. Racking, wiring, excavation all exceed the cost of the mods, so its what ever gets the customer the power they need for the lowest cost. OTOH, if the system is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Damaged PV module cells

2023-07-16 Thread david quattro via RE-wrenches
The cells are cracking. The metal traces are victim (not the cause) along the crack lines-- David Quattro CA License # 954020. C-10, C-46 ph (415) 312-2661 www.quattrosolar.com ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Damaged PV module cells

2023-07-16 Thread Kent via RE-wrenches
I think these modules are about 12 years old. I didn't have a voltmeter or ammeter with me this morning when this was discovered so I wasn't able to check the output. Kent Osterberg Blue Mountain Solar On 7/16/2023 3:06 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches wrote: Hi Kent, How is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Damaged PV module cells

2023-07-16 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
Hi Kent, How is output and how old are the panels? Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ e-mail offgridso...@sti.net text 209 813 0060 On 2023-07-16 2:58 pm, Kent via RE-wrenches wrote: Found some damage to a customer's Grape

[RE-wrenches] Damaged PV module cells

2023-07-16 Thread Kent via RE-wrenches
Found some damage to a customer's Grape CS-S-180-DJ PV modules this morning. Unlike anything I've ever seen; so I'm hoping that someone on this list can tell me the cause. I've put several photos of the cells online