Re: Fwd: Could I make a tag for k3b kf5 branch?

2016-07-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
to hold the patch any more ;-) > >and I want to know Debian's next release would still use k3b master >(dependence on kdelib4) or just update to KF5 branch? > >I prefer to make a tag v2.9.90 for KF5 branch, is that OK? > >在 2016年07月15日 09:59, Scott Kitterman 写道: >> I

Re: More Plasma bug fix releases

2015-10-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:01:47 PM Luca Beltrame wrote: > Il Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:18:01 -0700, Eric Hameleers ha scritto: > > No, of course not. I consider the git branch to be in eternal flux. The > > git HEAD may contain valuable usability patches but also other meh stuff > > Thanks to

Re: [kde-promo] The name of Applications 4.14 + 1

2014-07-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 17, 2014 20:54:57 Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dimecres, 16 de juliol de 2014, a les 16:50:18, grantksupp...@operamail.com va escriure: Anyone has another suggestion? Do we go with KDE Applications $YEAR.$MONTH? .MM so it's completely obvious? e.g.,

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-06-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, May 04, 2014 14:38:01 Martin Graesslin wrote: ... I think it's great that Kubuntu does downstream testing. But what would be much better is if Kubuntu would do the testing upstream. E.g. I'm sometimes too scared to take a patch into the branch as it doesn't get tested. Thus

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:32:49 Mario Fux wrote: Good morning crowd Looks like we've more or less an agreement or idea that could work for most of us. - Monthly features releases of KF5 with keyword for bugs to backport. - 6/12 monthly (still to be decided) stable branches (with

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 20, 2014 4:19:26 AM EDT, Jos Poortvliet jospoortvl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2014 19:07:41 Ben Cooksley wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote: snip Now, I think we'll have to agree to disagree on something. You believe there's some rule

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 13:28:29 Martin Gräßlin wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:19:59 Scott Kitterman wrote: On May 20, 2014 4:19:26 AM EDT, Jos Poortvliet jospoortvl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2014 19:07:41 Ben Cooksley wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Kevin Ottens

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 08:04:59 Kevin Ottens wrote: On Monday 19 May 2014 22:28:27 Scott Kitterman wrote: Speaking as a packager for a distro that's in group #2, I don't see this as any change from your initial proposal. That's correct... You're proposal moves us into group #1

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 14:07:02 Kevin Ottens wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:55:26 Scott Kitterman wrote: I'm open to discussing change, but so far the change is You're on your own, get over it. Not a lot to discuss in that. It's not at all the way it's been thought, it is unfortunate

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 20, 2014 8:27:39 AM EDT, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2014 08:00:43 Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 08:04:59 Kevin Ottens wrote: On Monday 19 May 2014 22:28:27 Scott Kitterman wrote: Speaking as a packager for a distro that's in group #2, I don't

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 20, 2014 8:52:30 AM EDT, Mario Fux kde...@unormal.org wrote: Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2014, 14.09:18 schrieb Scott Kitterman: Morning Scott On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 14:07:02 Kevin Ottens wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:55:26 Scott Kitterman wrote: I'm open to discussing change, but so

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
that happen. anyways, on to Scott's (re-)proposal: On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 09:45:36 Scott Kitterman wrote: This or something very like it was already suggested by someone else, so I'm not claiming this as my idea, but I think a reasonable compromise would be something like: - Monthly feature

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 20, 2014 10:41:04 AM EDT, Frank Reininghaus frank7...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, 2014-05-20 13:19 GMT+02:00 Scott Kitterman: We've pushed nearly every point release to end users throughout the KDE4 cycle. I use them myself. Your characterization of the KDE4 point releases doesn't match my

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, May 19, 2014 15:18:49 Kevin Ottens wrote: Hello all, First of all, my apologies for the long time taken for me to send an email. So, this release cycle proposal generated more debate among our dear packagers than we anticipated. I tried to keep up with the thread, but too be

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 4, 2014 4:25:25 AM EDT, Martin Graesslin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2014 21:56:12 Alexander Neundorf wrote: On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:35:54 Àlex Fiestas wrote: On Tuesday 29 April 2014 19:23:07 Scott Kitterman wrote: For non-rolling distros, at some point

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-05-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On May 1, 2014 4:06:07 AM EDT, Jos Poortvliet jospoortvl...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2014 15:36:10 Àlex Fiestas wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2014 08:16:48 Scott Kitterman wrote: I get what you're asking for. What I'm trying to make clear is you aren't going to get

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 30, 2014 3:32:02 AM EDT, Mario Fux kde...@unormal.org wrote: Am Mittwoch, 30. April 2014, 04.20:21 schrieb Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer: Morning For Ubuntu I can use the Firefox example. So can you explain why is KF5 different than firefox? Firefox (and Chromium too)

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 30, 2014 6:26:14 AM EDT, Àlex Fiestas afies...@kde.org wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2014 12:04:15 Raymond Wooninck wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2014 11:28:26 Àlex Fiestas wrote: Having a release every month will allow distributions to package fresher versions of frameworks since we

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:15:34 Àlex Fiestas wrote: On Tuesday 29 April 2014 21:54:17 Scott Kitterman wrote: On April 29, 2014 7:30:50 PM EDT, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dimarts, 29 d'abril de 2014, a les 19:23:07, Scott Kitterman va escriure: On April 29, 2014 2

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:35:54 Àlex Fiestas wrote: On Tuesday 29 April 2014 19:23:07 Scott Kitterman wrote: For non-rolling distros, at some point you have to stop and release. A mix of new features and bug fixes aren't going to be allowed in. We (Kubuntu) have been delivering KDE

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 14:39:31 Martin Gräßlin wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2014 08:24:43 Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:35:54 Àlex Fiestas wrote: On Tuesday 29 April 2014 19:23:07 Scott Kitterman wrote: For non-rolling distros, at some point you have

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 30, 2014 9:56:30 AM EDT, Àlex Fiestas afies...@kde.org wrote: On Wednesday 30 April 2014 07:50:02 Scott Kitterman wrote: The difference is that you will do proper testing with all the QA in place on each distros, we don't have such thing upstream beyond the tests. As for the mess

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 29, 2014 2:07:52 PM EDT, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dimarts, 29 d'abril de 2014, a les 19:55:42, Andreas K. Huettel va escriure: El Dimarts, 29 d'abril de 2014, a les 15:04:59, Andreas K. Huettel va escriure: Practically this just means that what used to be the

Re: Fwd: KDE Frameworks Release Cycle

2014-04-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On April 29, 2014 7:30:50 PM EDT, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dimarts, 29 d'abril de 2014, a les 19:23:07, Scott Kitterman va escriure: On April 29, 2014 2:07:52 PM EDT, Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dimarts, 29 d'abril de 2014, a les 19:55:42, Andreas K. Huettel va

Re: KDE SC 4.11.3 tarballs

2013-11-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, November 03, 2013 18:00:54 Torgny Nyblom wrote: Hi, On Sunday 03 November 2013 16.52.57 José Manuel Santamaría Lema wrote: Torgny Nyblom nyb...@kde.org [...] The tarballs for the 4.11.3 release are now available in the usual location. I've not compiled them

Re: Release Strategy Proposal

2013-04-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, April 26, 2013 03:27:40 PM Sebastian Kügler wrote: Hi, tldr Let's make 4.11 the last feature release for platform and workspace in the 4 series, make 4.11 a long term maintainance release. /tldr I would like to propose the following for our release planning in the next year:

Re: Another RC?, was: Re: Akonadi-Nepomuk Feeder Improvements

2012-12-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
Jos Poortvliet j...@opensuse.org wrote: On Sunday 30 December 2012 20:55:22 Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, December 31, 2012 12:24:18 AM Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Sunday, December 30, 2012 02:41:43 Scott Kitterman wrote: Assuming 4.10.1 and 4.10.2 slip similarly, that would result

Re: Another RC?, was: Re: Akonadi-Nepomuk Feeder Improvements

2012-12-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, December 30, 2012 01:18:06 AM Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Friday, December 28, 2012 21:54:17 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Seriously. I know I'm probably just putting my foot in my mouth once more here, but: What are betas and rc's for, if not for stabilizing code and progressing

Re: 4.10 beta1 tarballs available for packagers

2012-11-21 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, November 16, 2012 03:15:13 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: ** NEW TARBALLS ** - nepomuk-widgets * To be honest i'm not sure what it's for, i'd say compile it after nepomuk- core (early in the process and you should be safe) This one is missing it's COPYING file(s). Scott K

Re: Regression causing Freeze in KWin 4.9.1

2012-09-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, September 05, 2012 09:45:59 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dimecres, 5 de setembre de 2012, a les 21:06:55, Martin Graesslin va escriure: On Tuesday 04 September 2012 22:41:10 Martin Gräßlin wrote: Hi KDE Packagers, unfortunately we have introduced a nasty regression

Re: The misterious case of oxygen-icons

2012-08-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, August 17, 2012 12:17:07 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote: And related to the second: * What should we package with the tarball of oxygen-icons for KDE SC 4.9.1? Yes. Please. Because of the way it's maintained/released we've sometimes had problems around .3/4 of a release and

Re: The misterious case of oxygen-icons

2012-08-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
Please release it for 4.9.x as has been done in the past. Scott K Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dijous, 16 d'agost de 2012, a les 18:37:01, Scott Kitterman va escriure: On Friday, August 17, 2012 12:17:07 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote: And related to the second: * What

Re: KDE 4.8.5 tarballs available

2012-08-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, August 05, 2012 09:11:11 PM Balcaen John wrote: Le dimanche 5 août 2012 23:09:17 Dirk Mueller a écrit : [...] Hi, Hello, I've fixed kde-l10n-da and kde-l10n-pl: b062732d0a0847a04a9860455eb9e3c5 kde-l10n-da-4.8.5.tar.xz i've got an issue here :

Re: KDE 4.8.5 tarballs available

2012-08-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, August 02, 2012 11:00:39 AM Dirk Müller wrote: On Wednesday 01 August 2012, Scott Kitterman wrote: Rather than build everything twice, I decided to wait for the new kdelibs tarball. Once that's up, I'll rebuild everything against that and report back if I see issues

Re: KDE 4.8.5 tarballs available

2012-08-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 08:21:11 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: Spoke with Vishesh, we found out this was part of the KDE/4.8 vs KDE/4.8.x vs master vs KDE/4.9 issue in kdelibs and the commit[s] requiring that has been reverted. Dirk, please respin the kdelibs tarballs for 4.8.5 Rather than

Re: KDE 4.8.5 tarballs available

2012-07-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 08:21:11 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: Spoke with Vishesh, we found out this was part of the KDE/4.8 vs KDE/4.8.x vs master vs KDE/4.9 issue in kdelibs and the commit[s] requiring that has been reverted. Dirk, please respin the kdelibs tarballs for 4.8.5 Excellent

Re: KDE 4.8.5 tarballs available

2012-07-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 02:47:11 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: ... Still missing kdemultimedia when I looked earlier today as well. ... Nevermind. I see it's there now as Dirk said in his mail. Scott K ___ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org

Re: KDE 4.8.5 tarballs available

2012-07-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 30, 2012 07:54:56 PM Dirk Mueller wrote: Hi, I have packaged up the current KDE/4.8 branches as KDE 4.8.5 tarballs and uploaded it to the usual location, which hopefully resolves all the regressions in 4.8.4. I am a bit late, as I was busy and then sickleaving last week,

Re: Announcements to packagers policy - question

2012-07-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:14:12 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote: --- El mar, 17/7/12, Myriam Schweingruber escribió: Hi all, I was made aware today that, unlike beta releases, RC releases seem not to be announced on the packagers list. Is there a reason for that? What's the need of

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, July 13, 2012 07:44:38 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Divendres, 13 de juliol de 2012, a les 14:31:35, Aurélien Gâteau va escriure: Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 20:43:12 Albert Astals Cid a écrit : So here comes the summary of the Release Team BoF, the attached picture is all

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:50:01 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote: Do you really think forcing an update of unchanged modules for our convenience will help those of us trying to use plasma for mobile devices? That's the work of the distributor for those mobile devices. I think you're missing

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 07:48:53 PM Martin Gräßlin wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2012 19:43:54 Martin Gräßlin wrote: So you will have a one-time task to set up the distribution build system to create these packages. What I do not understand is why having particular frameworks skip a

Re: Release Script (KF5)

2012-07-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 09:30:51 PM Michael Jansen wrote: The one real world experience we have with this is kdepim. From my perspective as a packager the entire transition has been a disaster and created huge work for us (shortly before our KDE 4.7 based release I was doing almost

Re: KDE 4.8.5 planning

2012-07-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 05, 2012 05:01:58 PM Rolf Eike Beer wrote: Am 05.07.2012 13:00, schrieb Dirk Mueller: Hi, I guess with all the kdelibs mess we should redo another 4.8.5 release. Does anyone have suggestions for a release plan? I would like to do tagging either tomorrow morning

Re: KDE 4.8.5 planning

2012-07-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, July 05, 2012 11:44:12 AM Rex Dieter wrote: On 07/05/2012 11:31 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, July 05, 2012 05:01:58 PM Rolf Eike Beer wrote: Am 05.07.2012 13:00, schrieb Dirk Mueller: Hi, I guess with all the kdelibs mess we should redo another 4.8.5 release

Re: Release Script

2012-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 07:30:23 PM Michael Jansen wrote: ... I am just wondering about the distros again. Say i release KDE SC 4.9.2 and of all our packages only 10% got really changes. I wonder how that affects the workload if we force a release of the 90% unchanged ones. Or do they need

Re: Release Script

2012-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 07:25:13 PM Michael Jansen wrote: I do not disagree here, BUT have in mind that since we have private packages (used/tested by distro packagers before the release actually happens) so YOU is a broad term including the packagers. For KDE would say someone

Re: Release Script

2012-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 03, 2012 07:14:40 PM Michael Jansen wrote: The last step is done in maven because the support something called snapshot release which means their version looks like 4.7.1-20120621_151400. I think it could make sense to support that too. Stuff build from master or

Re: Nepomuk crashes in 4.8.4 fixed in KDE/4.8.x branch

2012-06-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 14, 2012 01:31:18 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote: Vishesh fixed the KDE/4.8.x branch of kdelibs. Can you guys verify it also fixes the issues for you? If so, what's the next step? Release an early 4.8.5? Repackage 4.8.4 kdelibs? Ideas? Call it 4.8.4.1 and add it to the

Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+

2012-06-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, June 11, 2012 07:20:50 AM Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Sunday, June 10, 2012 01:22:03 Kevin Kofler wrote: On Sunday 10 June 2012, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: Why not start now and make the next kdelibs 4.8.5? Releasing a kdelibs 4.9 will just add to the confusion of how kdelibs

Re: RFC: Conditions of early access to unreleased

2012-06-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:56:36 AM Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dilluns, 4 de juny de 2012, a les 00:11:32, Scott Kitterman va escriure: Sorry for breaking threading. I wasn't subscribed when this was sent, so I had to copy/paste from the web archive. On Monday, June 04, 2012 00:52

RFC: Conditions of early access to unreleased

2012-06-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
Sorry for breaking threading. I wasn't subscribed when this was sent, so I had to copy/paste from the web archive. On Monday, June 04, 2012 00:52:47 Albert Astals Cid wrote: My proposal: ** The KDE Release Team recognizes the importance of making a

Re: Calling off Beta1

2012-05-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
Albert Astals Cid aa...@kde.org wrote: El Dimarts, 29 de maig de 2012, a les 19:31:37, Kevin Kofler va escriure: On Tuesday 29 May 2012, Albert Astals Cid wrote: Blame the soprano developers and the nepomuk developers for not respecting the dependency freeze. Oh by the way, this is not

Re: No more release schedules.

2011-06-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: OK, since a lot of context apparently got lost during the message passing, let me just state my (personal) position clearly: What I think is acceptable: * Module X wants feature Y, which is non-invasive and well-tested and does not change the user

Re: modular kdelibs: packagers' view

2011-06-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:12:07 Scott Kitterman wrote: Source compatibility and proper soname management. As long as sonames are bumped for BIC changes I think it's manageable. We're not planning to weaken the existing rules, if any changes violate

Re: modular kdelibs: packagers' view

2011-06-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, June 05, 2011 08:16:39 AM Sebastian Kügler wrote: Hi all, I'm writing this email from the Platform11 sprint in Randa, and I'd like to collect input how we can get the different needs of developers and packagers together. Let me quickly outline the situation. There has been a

Re: modular kdelibs: packagers' view

2011-06-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
Sebastian Kügler se...@kde.org wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 09:22:05 Scott Kitterman wrote: For kdelibs, it is essential that the interfaces that will be newly exposed be managed properly. By there will be interfaces that are now private within kdelibs that will be exposed to the public

Re: KDEPIM 4.6RC2 Tarballs (try #1)

2011-06-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, May 30, 2011 10:32:57 AM Raphael Kubo da Costa wrote: CC'ing release-team and kde-pim back. The people who can properly answer these concerns are not subscribed to kde-packager. Raymond Wooninck tittiatc...@gmail.com writes: On Monday 30 May 2011 09:40:46 Scott Kitterman wrote