Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Albert Astals Cid]

El dimecres, 9 de novembre de 2016, a les 19:51:22 CET, Nicolás Alvarez va 
escriure:
> 2016-10-31 7:54 GMT-03:00 Albert Astals Cid :
> > El dimarts, 25 d’octubre de 2016, a les 23:40:12 CET, Albert Astals Cid va
> > 
> > escriure:
> >> El dilluns, 17 d’octubre de 2016, a les 20:31:50 CEST, Nicolás Alvarez va
> >> 
> >> escriure:
> >> > 2016-10-06 19:44 GMT-03:00 Albert Astals Cid :
> >> > > El dimecres, 5 d’octubre de 2016, a les 22:06:22 CEST, Ben Cooksley
> >> > > va
> >> > > 
> >> > > escriure:
> >> > >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Luigi Toscano
> >> > >> 
> >> > > 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> > Albert Astals Cid ha scritto:
> >> > >> >> El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert
> >> > >> >> Astals
> >> > >> >> Cid
> >> > >> >> va
> >> > >> >> 
> >> > >> >> escriure:
> >> > >> >>> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas
> >> > >> >>> Sturmlechner>>>
> >> > >> >>> 
> >> > >> >>> va escriure:
> >> > >>  On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> >> > >> > On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
> >> > >> >> None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen
> >> > >> >> commits
> >> > >> >> in
> >> > >> >> years.
> >> > >> >> They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no
> >> > >> >> need
> >> > >> >> to
> >> > >> >> keep
> >> > >> >> it releasing.
> >> > >> > 
> >> > >> > Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it
> >> > >> > possible
> >> > >> > that
> >> > >> > they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be
> >> > >> > possible
> >> > >> > to
> >> > >> > have them converted first and see if this changes?
> >> > >>  
> >> > >>  kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so
> >> > >>  could
> >> > >>  be
> >> > >>  moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
> >> > >>  
> >> > >>  Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this
> >> > >>  will
> >> > >>  be
> >> > >>  picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on
> >> > >>  kdepimlibs-4
> >> > >>  to build.
> >> > >> >>> 
> >> > >> >>> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop
> >> > >> >>> them
> >> > >> >>> or
> >> > >> >>> not.
> >> > >> >>> 
> >> > >> >>> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i
> >> > >> >>> would
> >> > >> >>> not
> >> > >> >>> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if
> >> > >> >>> we
> >> > >> >>> want
> >> > >> >>> to
> >> > >> >>> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.
> >> > >> >> 
> >> > >> >> So it's 2.5 months later now.
> >> > >> >> 
> >> > >> >> I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them
> >> > >> >> released
> >> > >> >> for
> >> > >> >> KDE Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring
> >> > >> >> about
> >> > >> >> them if they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04
> >> > >> >> 
> >> > >> >> Now the question is, how do we get them into git?
> >> > >> > 
> >> > >> > I think that sysadmins have (or had) a system dedicated to
> >> > >> > SVN-to-git
> >> > >> > conversion, and also the examples of the old conversions. There
> >> > >> > are
> >> > >> > some
> >> > >> > instructions here:
> >> > >> > https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> We had such a system - all such machines have since been shutdown
> >> > >> though.
> >> > >> I think Nicolas has a container on one of our machines which he does
> >> > >> the occasional conversion which gets requested in, but it has been a
> >> > >> long time since that was last used if I recall correctly.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Any way i can get that 65G svn file somehow or we can't port anything
> >> > > else
> >> > > from svn to git?
> >> > > 
> >> > > Or Nicolás can I convince you to git-ify kdewebdev?
> >> > 
> >> > It's done! Please review:
> >> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kfilereplace
> >> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kimagemapeditor
> >> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-klinkstatus
> >> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kommander
> >> 
> >> I don't think much changes happened but the branches from
> >> https://websvn.kde.org/branches/Applications/
> >> are missing (i.e. you only have the KDE/XXX ones), would it be much work
> >> to
> >> get them in?
> > 
> > Ping?
> 
> Sorry for the delay! I have added the Applications branches (without
> losing Andreas's changes in master) and pushed to my scratch space.

Looks good to me, i fixed the docs to install to the correct place and added 
the cmake glue so that klinkstatus builds.

If noone disagrees i'll ask sysadmin to move the repos to "proper" around 
monday/tuesday so we can have the release for Beta un thursday from git.

Cheers,
  Albert

Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Nicolás Alvarez]

2016-10-31 7:54 GMT-03:00 Albert Astals Cid :
> El dimarts, 25 d’octubre de 2016, a les 23:40:12 CET, Albert Astals Cid va
> escriure:
>> El dilluns, 17 d’octubre de 2016, a les 20:31:50 CEST, Nicolás Alvarez va
>>
>> escriure:
>> > 2016-10-06 19:44 GMT-03:00 Albert Astals Cid :
>> > > El dimecres, 5 d’octubre de 2016, a les 22:06:22 CEST, Ben Cooksley va
>> > >
>> > > escriure:
>> > >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Luigi Toscano
>> > >> 
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >> > Albert Astals Cid ha scritto:
>> > >> >> El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert Astals
>> > >> >> Cid
>> > >> >> va
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> escriure:
>> > >> >>> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas
>> > >> >>> Sturmlechner>>>
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> va escriure:
>> > >>  On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
>> > >> > On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
>> > >> >> None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits
>> > >> >> in
>> > >> >> years.
>> > >> >> They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need
>> > >> >> to
>> > >> >> keep
>> > >> >> it releasing.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it
>> > >> > possible
>> > >> > that
>> > >> > they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be
>> > >> > possible
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > have them converted first and see if this changes?
>> > >> 
>> > >>  kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so
>> > >>  could
>> > >>  be
>> > >>  moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
>> > >> 
>> > >>  Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will
>> > >>  be
>> > >>  picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on
>> > >>  kdepimlibs-4
>> > >>  to build.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop
>> > >> >>> them
>> > >> >>> or
>> > >> >>> not.
>> > >> >>>
>> > >> >>> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i
>> > >> >>> would
>> > >> >>> not
>> > >> >>> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we
>> > >> >>> want
>> > >> >>> to
>> > >> >>> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> So it's 2.5 months later now.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them released
>> > >> >> for
>> > >> >> KDE Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring
>> > >> >> about
>> > >> >> them if they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Now the question is, how do we get them into git?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I think that sysadmins have (or had) a system dedicated to SVN-to-git
>> > >> > conversion, and also the examples of the old conversions. There are
>> > >> > some
>> > >> > instructions here:
>> > >> > https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git
>> > >>
>> > >> We had such a system - all such machines have since been shutdown
>> > >> though.
>> > >> I think Nicolas has a container on one of our machines which he does
>> > >> the occasional conversion which gets requested in, but it has been a
>> > >> long time since that was last used if I recall correctly.
>> > >
>> > > Any way i can get that 65G svn file somehow or we can't port anything
>> > > else
>> > > from svn to git?
>> > >
>> > > Or Nicolás can I convince you to git-ify kdewebdev?
>> >
>> > It's done! Please review:
>> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kfilereplace
>> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kimagemapeditor
>> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-klinkstatus
>> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kommander
>>
>> I don't think much changes happened but the branches from
>> https://websvn.kde.org/branches/Applications/
>> are missing (i.e. you only have the KDE/XXX ones), would it be much work to
>> get them in?
>
> Ping?

Sorry for the delay! I have added the Applications branches (without
losing Andreas's changes in master) and pushed to my scratch space.

-- 
Nicolás

Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Albert Astals Cid]

El dimarts, 25 d’octubre de 2016, a les 23:40:12 CET, Albert Astals Cid va 
escriure:
> El dilluns, 17 d’octubre de 2016, a les 20:31:50 CEST, Nicolás Alvarez va
> 
> escriure:
> > 2016-10-06 19:44 GMT-03:00 Albert Astals Cid :
> > > El dimecres, 5 d’octubre de 2016, a les 22:06:22 CEST, Ben Cooksley va
> > > 
> > > escriure:
> > >> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Luigi Toscano
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > >> > Albert Astals Cid ha scritto:
> > >> >> El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert Astals
> > >> >> Cid
> > >> >> va
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> escriure:
> > >> >>> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas
> > >> >>> Sturmlechner>>>
> > >> >>> 
> > >> >>> va escriure:
> > >>  On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> > >> > On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
> > >> >> None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits
> > >> >> in
> > >> >> years.
> > >> >> They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> keep
> > >> >> it releasing.
> > >> > 
> > >> > Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it
> > >> > possible
> > >> > that
> > >> > they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be
> > >> > possible
> > >> > to
> > >> > have them converted first and see if this changes?
> > >>  
> > >>  kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so
> > >>  could
> > >>  be
> > >>  moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
> > >>  
> > >>  Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will
> > >>  be
> > >>  picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on
> > >>  kdepimlibs-4
> > >>  to build.
> > >> >>> 
> > >> >>> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop
> > >> >>> them
> > >> >>> or
> > >> >>> not.
> > >> >>> 
> > >> >>> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i
> > >> >>> would
> > >> >>> not
> > >> >>> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we
> > >> >>> want
> > >> >>> to
> > >> >>> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> So it's 2.5 months later now.
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them released
> > >> >> for
> > >> >> KDE Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring
> > >> >> about
> > >> >> them if they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> Now the question is, how do we get them into git?
> > >> > 
> > >> > I think that sysadmins have (or had) a system dedicated to SVN-to-git
> > >> > conversion, and also the examples of the old conversions. There are
> > >> > some
> > >> > instructions here:
> > >> > https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git
> > >> 
> > >> We had such a system - all such machines have since been shutdown
> > >> though.
> > >> I think Nicolas has a container on one of our machines which he does
> > >> the occasional conversion which gets requested in, but it has been a
> > >> long time since that was last used if I recall correctly.
> > > 
> > > Any way i can get that 65G svn file somehow or we can't port anything
> > > else
> > > from svn to git?
> > > 
> > > Or Nicolás can I convince you to git-ify kdewebdev?
> > 
> > It's done! Please review:
> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kfilereplace
> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kimagemapeditor
> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-klinkstatus
> > kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kommander
> 
> I don't think much changes happened but the branches from
> https://websvn.kde.org/branches/Applications/
> are missing (i.e. you only have the KDE/XXX ones), would it be much work to
> get them in?

Ping?

> 
> Cheers,
>   Albert
> 
> > The history seems to be complete, but I haven't tested if the latest
> > master compiles etc. I think they rely on the global
> > kdewebdev/CMakeLists.txt and don't build standalone.
> > 
> > I also need to know where to push the final git repos. Should I create
> > a kdewebdev module in repo-metadata? And what needs to be done with
> > i18n for a svn->git move?

Re: Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Andreas Sturmlechner]

On Monday, 17 October 2016 at 20:31, Nicolás Alvarez wrote:
> It's done! Please review:
> kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kfilereplace
> kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kimagemapeditor
> kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-klinkstatus
> kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kommander
> 
> The history seems to be complete, but I haven't tested if the latest
> master compiles etc. I think they rely on the global
> kdewebdev/CMakeLists.txt and don't build standalone.
> 

Thanks for doing this!

kommander builds fine already, kfilereplace and kimagemapeditor will need one 
or 
two lines copied over from the root CMakeLists.txt. I can't build klinkstatus 
anymore for its dependence on kdepimlibs-4.

Regards,
Andreas

Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Nicolás Alvarez]

2016-10-06 19:44 GMT-03:00 Albert Astals Cid :
> El dimecres, 5 d’octubre de 2016, a les 22:06:22 CEST, Ben Cooksley va
> escriure:
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Luigi Toscano 
> wrote:
>> > Albert Astals Cid ha scritto:
>> >> El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert Astals Cid
>> >> va
>> >>
>> >> escriure:
>> >>> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas
>> >>> Sturmlechner>>>
>> >>> va escriure:
>>  On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
>> > On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
>> >> None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in
>> >> years.
>> >> They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to
>> >> keep
>> >> it releasing.
>> >
>> > Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible
>> > that
>> > they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible
>> > to
>> > have them converted first and see if this changes?
>> 
>>  kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so could be
>>  moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
>> 
>>  Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will be
>>  picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on
>>  kdepimlibs-4
>>  to build.
>> >>>
>> >>> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop them or
>> >>> not.
>> >>>
>> >>> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i would
>> >>> not
>> >>> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we want
>> >>> to
>> >>> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.
>> >>
>> >> So it's 2.5 months later now.
>> >>
>> >> I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them released for
>> >> KDE Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring about
>> >> them if they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04
>> >>
>> >> Now the question is, how do we get them into git?
>> >
>> > I think that sysadmins have (or had) a system dedicated to SVN-to-git
>> > conversion, and also the examples of the old conversions. There are some
>> > instructions here:
>> > https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git
>>
>> We had such a system - all such machines have since been shutdown though.
>> I think Nicolas has a container on one of our machines which he does
>> the occasional conversion which gets requested in, but it has been a
>> long time since that was last used if I recall correctly.
>
> Any way i can get that 65G svn file somehow or we can't port anything else
> from svn to git?
>
> Or Nicolás can I convince you to git-ify kdewebdev?
>

It's done! Please review:
kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kfilereplace
kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kimagemapeditor
kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-klinkstatus
kde:scratch/nalvarez/kdewebdev-kommander

The history seems to be complete, but I haven't tested if the latest
master compiles etc. I think they rely on the global
kdewebdev/CMakeLists.txt and don't build standalone.

I also need to know where to push the final git repos. Should I create
a kdewebdev module in repo-metadata? And what needs to be done with
i18n for a svn->git move?

-- 
Nicolás

Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Nicolás Alvarez]

2016-10-06 19:44 GMT-03:00 Albert Astals Cid :
> El dimecres, 5 d’octubre de 2016, a les 22:06:22 CEST, Ben Cooksley va
> escriure:
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Luigi Toscano 
> wrote:
>> > Albert Astals Cid ha scritto:
>> >> El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert Astals Cid
>> >> va
>> >>
>> >> escriure:
>> >>> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas
>> >>> Sturmlechner>>>
>> >>> va escriure:
>>  On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
>> > On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
>> >> None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in
>> >> years.
>> >> They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to
>> >> keep
>> >> it releasing.
>> >
>> > Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible
>> > that
>> > they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible
>> > to
>> > have them converted first and see if this changes?
>> 
>>  kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so could be
>>  moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
>> 
>>  Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will be
>>  picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on
>>  kdepimlibs-4
>>  to build.
>> >>>
>> >>> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop them or
>> >>> not.
>> >>>
>> >>> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i would
>> >>> not
>> >>> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we want
>> >>> to
>> >>> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.
>> >>
>> >> So it's 2.5 months later now.
>> >>
>> >> I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them released for
>> >> KDE Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring about
>> >> them if they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04
>> >>
>> >> Now the question is, how do we get them into git?
>> >
>> > I think that sysadmins have (or had) a system dedicated to SVN-to-git
>> > conversion, and also the examples of the old conversions. There are some
>> > instructions here:
>> > https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git
>>
>> We had such a system - all such machines have since been shutdown though.
>> I think Nicolas has a container on one of our machines which he does
>> the occasional conversion which gets requested in, but it has been a
>> long time since that was last used if I recall correctly.
>
> Any way i can get that 65G svn file somehow or we can't port anything else
> from svn to git?
>
> Or Nicolás can I convince you to git-ify kdewebdev?

kfilerename pretty much done. Three remaining!

-- 
Nicolás

Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Ben Cooksley]

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Nicolás Alvarez
 wrote:
>
>> El 6 oct 2016, a las 19:44, Albert Astals Cid  escribió:
>>
>> El dimecres, 5 d’octubre de 2016, a les 22:06:22 CEST, Ben Cooksley va
>> escriure:
>>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Luigi Toscano 
>> wrote:
 Albert Astals Cid ha scritto:
> El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert Astals Cid
> va
>
> escriure:
>> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas
>> Sturmlechner>>>
>> va escriure:
 On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
> None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in
> years.
> They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to
> keep
> it releasing.

 Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible
 that
 they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible
 to
 have them converted first and see if this changes?
>>>
>>> kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so could be
>>> moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
>>>
>>> Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will be
>>> picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on
>>> kdepimlibs-4
>>> to build.
>>
>> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop them or
>> not.
>>
>> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i would
>> not
>> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we want
>> to
>> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.
>
> So it's 2.5 months later now.
>
> I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them released for
> KDE Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring about
> them if they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04
>
> Now the question is, how do we get them into git?

 I think that sysadmins have (or had) a system dedicated to SVN-to-git
 conversion, and also the examples of the old conversions. There are some
 instructions here:
 https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git
>>>
>>> We had such a system - all such machines have since been shutdown though.
>>> I think Nicolas has a container on one of our machines which he does
>>> the occasional conversion which gets requested in, but it has been a
>>> long time since that was last used if I recall correctly.
>
> I had one in fiesta, but I seem to recall you removed it to free space? I can 
> recreate it though.

>From what I can tell the container itself is definitely still there.
Might be potentially missing it's copy of SVN?

>
>> Any way i can get that 65G svn file somehow or we can't port anything else
>> from svn to git?
>
> It can be downloaded via anonymous rsync, IIRC it's rsync.kde.org::svnmirror.
>
>> Or Nicolás can I convince you to git-ify kdewebdev?
>
> Maybe tomorrow when I manage to wake up. It's adminbeers night today ;)
>
> --
> Nicolás

Thanks,
Ben

Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Nicolás Alvarez]

> El 6 oct 2016, a las 19:44, Albert Astals Cid  escribió:
> 
> El dimecres, 5 d’octubre de 2016, a les 22:06:22 CEST, Ben Cooksley va 
> escriure:
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Luigi Toscano 
> wrote:
>>> Albert Astals Cid ha scritto:
 El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert Astals Cid
 va
 
 escriure:
> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas
> Sturmlechner>>> 
> va escriure:
>>> On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
 On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
 None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in
 years.
 They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to
 keep
 it releasing.
>>> 
>>> Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible
>>> that
>>> they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible
>>> to
>>> have them converted first and see if this changes?
>> 
>> kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so could be
>> moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
>> 
>> Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will be
>> picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on
>> kdepimlibs-4
>> to build.
> 
> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop them or
> not.
> 
> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i would
> not
> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we want
> to
> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.
 
 So it's 2.5 months later now.
 
 I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them released for
 KDE Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring about
 them if they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04
 
 Now the question is, how do we get them into git?
>>> 
>>> I think that sysadmins have (or had) a system dedicated to SVN-to-git
>>> conversion, and also the examples of the old conversions. There are some
>>> instructions here:
>>> https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git
>> 
>> We had such a system - all such machines have since been shutdown though.
>> I think Nicolas has a container on one of our machines which he does
>> the occasional conversion which gets requested in, but it has been a
>> long time since that was last used if I recall correctly.

I had one in fiesta, but I seem to recall you removed it to free space? I can 
recreate it though.

> Any way i can get that 65G svn file somehow or we can't port anything else 
> from svn to git?

It can be downloaded via anonymous rsync, IIRC it's rsync.kde.org::svnmirror.

> Or Nicolás can I convince you to git-ify kdewebdev?

Maybe tomorrow when I manage to wake up. It's adminbeers night today ;)

-- 
Nicolás

Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Albert Astals Cid]

El dimecres, 5 d’octubre de 2016, a les 22:06:22 CEST, Ben Cooksley va 
escriure:
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Luigi Toscano  
wrote:
> > Albert Astals Cid ha scritto:
> >> El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert Astals Cid
> >> va
> >> 
> >> escriure:
> >>> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas
> >>> Sturmlechner>>> 
> >>> va escriure:
>  On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> > On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
> >> None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in
> >> years.
> >> They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to
> >> keep
> >> it releasing.
> > 
> > Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible
> > that
> > they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible
> > to
> > have them converted first and see if this changes?
>  
>  kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so could be
>  moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
>  
>  Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will be
>  picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on
>  kdepimlibs-4
>  to build.
> >>> 
> >>> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop them or
> >>> not.
> >>> 
> >>> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i would
> >>> not
> >>> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we want
> >>> to
> >>> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.
> >> 
> >> So it's 2.5 months later now.
> >> 
> >> I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them released for
> >> KDE Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring about
> >> them if they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04
> >> 
> >> Now the question is, how do we get them into git?
> > 
> > I think that sysadmins have (or had) a system dedicated to SVN-to-git
> > conversion, and also the examples of the old conversions. There are some
> > instructions here:
> > https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git
> 
> We had such a system - all such machines have since been shutdown though.
> I think Nicolas has a container on one of our machines which he does
> the occasional conversion which gets requested in, but it has been a
> long time since that was last used if I recall correctly.

Any way i can get that 65G svn file somehow or we can't port anything else 
from svn to git?

Or Nicolás can I convince you to git-ify kdewebdev?

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> >> Or, am i being too naive and we should just drop them?
> > 
> > Well, it would be good if this transfer is done and this knowledge is not
> > lost (you never know).
> > 
> > --
> > Luigi
> 
> Cheers,
> Ben

Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Ben Cooksley]

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Luigi Toscano  wrote:
> Albert Astals Cid ha scritto:
>> El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert Astals Cid va
>> escriure:
>>> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas Sturmlechner
>>> va escriure:
 On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
>> None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in
>> years.
>> They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to
>> keep
>> it releasing.
>
> Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible that
> they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible
> to
> have them converted first and see if this changes?

 kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so could be
 moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.

 Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will be
 picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on kdepimlibs-4
 to build.
>>> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop them or not.
>>>
>>> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i would not
>>> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we want to
>>> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.
>>
>> So it's 2.5 months later now.
>>
>> I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them released for KDE
>> Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring about them if
>> they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04
>>
>> Now the question is, how do we get them into git?
>
> I think that sysadmins have (or had) a system dedicated to SVN-to-git
> conversion, and also the examples of the old conversions. There are some
> instructions here:
> https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git

We had such a system - all such machines have since been shutdown though.
I think Nicolas has a container on one of our machines which he does
the occasional conversion which gets requested in, but it has been a
long time since that was last used if I recall correctly.

>
>>
>> Or, am i being too naive and we should just drop them?
>
> Well, it would be good if this transfer is done and this knowledge is not lost
> (you never know).
>
> --
> Luigi

Cheers,
Ben

Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Luigi Toscano]

Albert Astals Cid ha scritto:
> El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert Astals Cid va 
> escriure:
>> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas Sturmlechner
>> va escriure:
>>> On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
 On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
> None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in
> years.
> They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to
> keep
> it releasing.

 Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible that
 they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible
 to
 have them converted first and see if this changes?
>>>
>>> kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so could be
>>> moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
>>>
>>> Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will be
>>> picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on kdepimlibs-4
>>> to build.
>> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop them or not.
>>
>> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i would not
>> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we want to
>> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.
> 
> So it's 2.5 months later now.
> 
> I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them released for KDE 
> Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring about them if 
> they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04
> 
> Now the question is, how do we get them into git?

I think that sysadmins have (or had) a system dedicated to SVN-to-git
conversion, and also the examples of the old conversions. There are some
instructions here:
https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/MoveToGit/UsingSvn2Git

> 
> Or, am i being too naive and we should just drop them?

Well, it would be good if this transfer is done and this knowledge is not lost
(you never know).

-- 
Luigi

Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Albert Astals Cid]

El dimecres, 13 de juliol de 2016, a les 1:27:21 CEST, Albert Astals Cid va 
escriure:
> El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas Sturmlechner
> va escriure:
> > On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> > > On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
> > > > None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in
> > > > years.
> > > > They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to
> > > > keep
> > > > it releasing.
> > > 
> > > Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible that
> > > they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible
> > > to
> > > have them converted first and see if this changes?
> > 
> > kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so could be
> > moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
> > 
> > Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will be
> > picked up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on kdepimlibs-4
> > to build.
> Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop them or not.
> 
> Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i would not
> rush for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we want to
> release them for KDE Applications 16.12.

So it's 2.5 months later now.

I would like to get them moved to git if possible, get them released for KDE 
Applications 16.12 and tell people they need to start caring about them if 
they don't want to see them dropped for 17.04

Now the question is, how do we get them into git?

Or, am i being too naive and we should just drop them?

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Cheers,
>   Albert
> 
> > Regards,
> > Andreas
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Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Albert Astals Cid]

El divendres, 8 de juliol de 2016, a les 11:50:44 CEST, Andreas Sturmlechner 
va escriure:
> On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> > On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
> > > None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in
> > > years.
> > > They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to keep
> > > it releasing.
> > 
> > Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible that
> > they slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible to
> > have them converted first and see if this changes?
> 
> kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so could be
> moved into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.
> 
> Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will be picked
> up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on kdepimlibs-4 to build.

Let's move them to git first and then decide if we want to drop them or not.

Given the freeze for KDE Applications 16.08 is like in 2 days i would not rush 
for now, let's all make a note for 2.5 months and decide if we want to release 
them for KDE Applications 16.12.

Cheers,
  Albert

> 
> Regards,
> Andreas
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Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Andreas Sturmlechner]

On Friday, 8 July 2016 at 11:11, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
> > None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in years.
> > They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to keep 
> > it releasing.
> 
> Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible that they 
> slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible to have  
> them converted first and see if this changes?

kommander and kfilereplace are not actually webdev related, so could be moved 
into other categories (kdeutils?) if not dropped.

Not sure how many people still do image maps (so chances this will be picked 
up again are slim), and klinkstatus still depends on kdepimlibs-4 to build.

Regards,
Andreas
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Re: Stopping release of kdewebdev for Applications 16.08

[Luigi Toscano]

On Friday 08 of July 2016 11:03:05 Andreas Sturmlechner wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there any reason not to drop kdewebdev from upcoming 16.08 release?
> It contains the following applications:
> 
> kfilereplace
> kimagemapeditor
> klinkstatus
> kommander
> 
> None of them were ported yet, in fact they haven't seen commits in years.
> They should probably be converted to git, still, but imo no need to keep it
> releasing.

Some of them could be probably dropped, but also isn't it possible that they 
slipped out of the radar because not on git? Would it be possible to have them 
converted first and see if this changes?

Ciao
-- 
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