130 Muslim workers fired over unauthorized breaks during Ramadan

2008-09-11 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/sep/10/swift-company-fires-10 0-workers/: At least 130 Muslim workers at the north Greeley JBS Swift Co. plant were fired Wednesday afternoon, apparently over a dispute involving breaks during Ramadan At issue is a request by Muslim workers

RE: substantial burden in Navajo Nation v. US Forest Service

2008-09-06 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I'm not sure quite how the judges became arbiters of scriptual interpretation. They did have to ask the threshold question of whether the law is compelling the objectors to do something that religiously object to, but it seems to me that this is a necessary inquiry for the law. As to

RE: A different approach to parents' different levels of religiosity in child custody cases

2008-09-04 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Judy Baer writes: Hey, folks, anybody else notice what these two cases have in common? Daddy won. Feminists, take note! Isn't it a little unhelpful to generalize from a sample of 2 cases? Here, by way of comparison, are the first nine cases I cite in my Parent-Child Speech and Child

Re: A different approach to parents' different levels of religiosity in child custody cases

2008-09-04 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Ah! Very sorry that I misunderstood. Eugene -Original Message- From: Judith Baer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 8:30 AM To: Volokh, Eugene Subject: RE: A different approach to parents' different levels of religiosity in child custody cases

Yet one more example of discrimination against the irreligious in child custody cases:

2008-09-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From Buck v. Buck, 4 Pa. D. C. 5th 238 (Pa. Com. Pl. 2008). Given Lee v. Weisman's conclusion that simply having a prayer at a not formally mandatory graduation is unacceptable coercion of religious practice, wouldn't counting a parent's not engaging in religious/spiritual activities [with] the

RE: Yet one more example of discrimination against the irreligiousinchild custody cases:

2008-09-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:00 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Yet one more example of discrimination against the irreligious inchild custody cases

A different approach to parents' different levels of religiosity in child custody cases

2008-09-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Here's a different, and in my view better, approach to parents' different levels of religiosity in child custody cases: Jackson v. Jackson, 2007 WL 5446673 (Ariz.App. Div. 1): ¶ 6 Mother argues that the family court erred in not counting in her favor the fact that Jeremy will receive more

Specific tenet of a person's religious faith

2008-08-23 Thread Volokh, Eugene
The Pennsylvania Religious Freedom Protection Act, 71 Penn Stats. secs. 2401 et seq., is pretty much a RFRA, but defines substantial burden (which needs to be proved by clear and convicing evidence) this way: Substantially burden. An agency action which does any of the

California Supreme Court holds doctors have no religious freedom rights to refuse to artifiically inseminate a same-sex couple (even if they sincerely object to this on religious grounds)

2008-08-18 Thread Volokh, Eugene
California Supreme Court holds doctors have no religious freedom rights to refuse to artifiically inseminate a same-sex couple (even if they sincerely object to this on religious grounds). The court didn't decide whether the California Constitution followed Sherbert, Smith, or something else.

RE: Nevada district court applies Fraternal Order of Police v.Newark(3d Cir.), holds no-beard poli

2008-08-13 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I agree with Marci about the Free Exercise Clause, but of course both Title VII and various jurisdiction-by-jurisdiction RFRAs (though there is not one in Nevada) represent the political process itself making a judgment that courts should draw the lines in the first instance. I do

RE: Nevada district court applies Fraternal Order ofPolicev.Newark(3d Cir.), holds no-beard poli

2008-08-13 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:09:42 To: Law Religion issues for Law Academicsreligionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Nevada district court applies Fraternal Order of Police v.Newark(3d Cir

Nevada district court applies Fraternal Order of Police v. Newark (3d Cir.), holds no-beard policy must pass strict scrutiny

2008-08-12 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Riback v. Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Dep't, 2008 WL 3211279 (D. Nev. 2008). The court concludes, though, that the headgear regulation (which required the removal of all hats when entering any building, when not in uniform) isn't subject to strict scrutiny because the regulation does not

En banc Ninth Circuit decision in Navajo Nation v. U.S. Forest Service

2008-08-08 Thread Volokh, Eugene
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/DFEB53892B27DCEF8825749E 007B1851/$file/0615371.pdf?openelement Haven't read the whole thing yet, but the opinion appears to reject (by an 8-3 vote) the RFRA claim. Hhere's what looks like an interesting passage from the Introduction: Thus,

Religious exemptions and sex with 16-year-old

2008-08-06 Thread Volokh, Eugene
State v. Fischer, 2008 WL 2971520 (Ariz. App.), upholds a statutory rape conviction of Kelly Fischer, a member of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Fischer was married, and then took a second wife, Lujean, though of course she was not recognized as a wife

Are religious accommodations regimes inapplicable to people selling their goods or services?

2008-08-05 Thread Volokh, Eugene
That's a great argument for Smith, and under Smith. But I don't see how it works under RFRA or other Sherbert/Yoder-type regimes. Sherbert makes clear that even when the government is giving unemployment benefits, it must pass strict scrutiny when it requires behavior that violates

RE: Conflicts between religious exefcise and gay rights and cudgels

2008-08-05 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Religion issues for Law Academics Cc: Volokh, Eugene Subject: Re: Conflicts between religious exefcise and gay rights and cudgels Well, I'm surely not trying to pooh-pooh the religious concerns -- merely to try to probe what, exactly, they are, and how much these conflicts differ from

RE: Conflicts between religious exefcise and gay rights and cudgels

2008-08-05 Thread Volokh, Eugene
the Negro comes in. Eugene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 12:04 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics; Law Religion issues for Law Academics Cc: Volokh, Eugene Subject: RE: Conflicts between

Conflicts between religious exefcise and gay rights and cudgels

2008-08-04 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I wonder which way the cudgel is being exploited (or maybe both). It seems to me, for instance, that religiously motivated discrimination in public accommodations against gays is likely also a relatively infrequent phenomenon, partly because it's financially costly to the discriminators,

RE: Religious freedom and 42 USC 666

2008-08-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
is required by his religion. That is the essence of Lyng and Bowen. He is not trying to insulate his own behavior from regulation; he is trying to control the government's behavior. Quoting Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, I thought about

RE: Religious freedom and 42 USC 666

2008-08-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
have decided it the other way. And under Lukumi it seems fairly clear that any such law would give rise to a colorable Free Exercise claim based on intentional discrimination. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene

RE: Religious freedom and 42 USC 666

2008-08-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:42 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Religious freedom and 42 USC 666 Perhaps Doug, Dan, and others are right that the case is enough like Bowen v. Roy

RE: Religious freedom and 42 USC 666

2008-08-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
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RE: Religious freedom and 42 USC 666

2008-08-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Perhaps this is indeed so on the facts of this particular case; but I take it in a future case, there might be no tax refund to offset this against, no? Eugene Eric Rassbach writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Lack of sincerity

2008-08-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I agree that, in principle, lack of sincerity rightly defeats a RFRA etc. claim. But in practice, my sense is that many judges are reluctant to find claimants to be insincere. Outside the prison context, I've seen very few cases in which the judge made such a finding. Even in Sherrod's

RE: Lack of sincerity

2008-08-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I'm inclined to agree with Alan here -- many of us genuinely believe that those things that are good and pleasant for us are also good for our souls. There's nothing particularly inconsistent about someone's feeling a religious motivation to alter his mental state using marijuana;

Religious freedom and 42 USC 666

2008-07-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Sherrod v. Tenn. Dep't of Human Servs., 2008 WL 2894691 (Tenn. Ct. App.), involves a father who refused to pay his child support, partly because Mr. Sherrod states that he is a Born Again Christian and a Sunday School teacher and that he is greatly disturbed that DHS is attempting to

From the list custodian

2008-07-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Folks: Let me mention again that list discussion tends to be most helpful when it goes into concrete and detailed analysis, and not cliche generalities. Recall that the thread began with a post discussing what protection should be offered to speech that's critical of religion. I'm

RE: Religious freedom and 42 USC 666

2008-07-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Jean Dudley writes: As to the rest of the argument below, I don't think it can work under Thomas v. Employment Division. It is not for a court to decide what's the best reading of Revelations, or whether the federal statute indeed sufficiently bears the mark of the beast, or

RE: Religious freedom and 42 USC 666

2008-07-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Well, I suppose that's part of the question with any accommodation: When the government goes out of its way to accommodate people's religious objections -- by rearranging things to prevent coercive burdens on the people's religious beliefs -- is it therefore improperly endorsing the

RE: Religious freedom and 42 USC 666

2008-07-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Well, I thought about Bowen v. Roy, but my sense is that the internal procedures point there was that the Roys weren't required to actually do anything that violated their religious beliefs (the government had stopped demanding that they provide Roy's social security number, and five

RE: LOFTON / Re: From the list custodian

2008-07-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
of Christ. -- John Calvin. -Original Message- From: Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 5:50 pm Subject: From the list custodian Folks

Ministerial exception and breach of contract claims

2008-07-30 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Cooper v. Church of St. Benedict, 2008 WL 2894699 (Pa. Super. 2008), concludes that plaintiff's breach of employment agreement complaint can't be dismissed, because there isn't enough evidence to show that her position as music director at a Catholic church is ministerial. But does the

RE: Ministerial exception and breach of contract claims

2008-07-30 Thread Volokh, Eugene
, Volokh, Eugene wrote: Cooper v. Church of St. Benedict, 2008 WL 2894699 (Pa. Super. 2008), concludes that plaintiff's breach of employment agreement complaint can't be dismissed, because there isn't enough evidence to show that her position as music director at a Catholic church

RE: Political divisions along religious lines

2008-07-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
, 2008 10:26 AM To: Volokh, Eugene; religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: Re: Political divisions along religious lines I agree with this, but your account only talks about the divisions caused by the first decision. Striking down legislative prayer would indeed be controversial, more so

Names and titles

2008-07-23 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Folks: My sense is that it usually creates a nicer tone for people to call each other by their full names, first names, or title-plus-last-name, rather than just by last name alone. It also usually creates a nicer tone for people not to talk about others' peddl[ing] their views (whether

A plea for keeping things precise (and providing citations whenever possible)

2008-07-22 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Folks: Just a quick plug from the list custodian for maximum accuracy. If you want to cite a statistic, please check it and cite the source (plus see whether the big picture is more complex than you describe). For instance, a quick visit to the Bureau of Justice Statistics site

RE: Judicial enforcement of Islamic dowry-on-divorce agreements

2008-07-17 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:13 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Judicial enforcement of Islamic dowry-on-divorce agreements Mohammed Zawahiri and Raghad Z. Alwattar were married, in an arranged marriage. The day of the wedding, Zawahiri signed a mahr

RE: Amish foster care

2008-07-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I'm not sure what the right answer is, but I'm inclined to say that: (1) When a parent refuses to take a child back -- not just can't take the child back because the child won't come, or because the child is a physical danger to the other children, but refuses to take the child back --

RE: Priests Barred (by ArchBishop's Directive) Barred from Donating toCandidates (from Electionlaw list)

2008-06-28 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I should note that some states prohibit employers from restricting their employees' off-duty political activities. California Labor Code sec. 1101, for instance, provides, No employer shall make, adopt, or enforce any rule, regulation, or policy ... [f]orbidding or preventing employees from

Whoops, sorry, saw the dissents were pointed to in a recent message -- please ignore my earlier request

2008-06-28 Thread Volokh, Eugene
___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that messages sent to this large list cannot be viewed as

Exorcism case

2008-06-28 Thread Volokh, Eugene
There's a lot of talk of Smith here -- does anyone know why the Texas RFRA wasn't involved? Did the defendants conclude that strict scrutiny would do them no good, and they need the per se prohibition on secular court involvement that is created by the no religious decisions doctrine?

Drift of the Court on religion

2008-06-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I'm sure Justice Scalia is not credible to lots of people, just as any Justice is not credible to lots of people. But I take it the question should be whether his arguments about the Establishment Clause -- the question he seemed to be discussing -- are sound, a matter that is logically quite

RE: Drift of the Court on religion

2008-06-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
disparate impact test in another context. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:18 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject

RE: The Heart of the Disagreement AmongtheJudgesintheTexasFLDSLitigation?

2008-06-02 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 6:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: The Heart of the Disagreement Among theJudgesintheTexasFLDSLitigation? I'm puzzled -- all 12 judges refused to recognize the facts that the CPS was pointing

RE: The Heart of the Disagreement Among the Judges in theTexasFLDSLitigation?

2008-05-30 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:22:10 To:Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: The Heart of the Disagreement Among the Judges in the Texas FLDS          Litigation

[B]ut for the Muslim faith, the children would have no faith at all

2008-05-02 Thread Volokh, Eugene
An interesting item from Linnell v. Linnell, 2008 WL 1913991 (Conn. Super. Apr. 15): The children, by the parties' agreement prior to their birth, have been raised in the Muslim faith. The children, or at least Kelsey at this point, attend weekly religious instruction. They observe the Muslim

RFRA and use of compulsory student fees for abortion services

2008-04-29 Thread Volokh, Eugene
A state university uses compulsory student fees for various purposes, including funding student insurance that pays for abortions. Assume a state RFRA applies, and some students claim that this violates the state RFRA, because their religion bars them from helping -- even so indirectly --

RE: JOHN LOFTON / Question, Please -- Jurors....

2008-04-24 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Folks: Please let's focus on technical legal discussions of the questions of the law of government and religion. If someone wants to tie these questions to Torcaso v. Watkins, or for that matter to other legal principles, that's great. But discussions at this level of abstraction, with no

RE: JOHN LOFTON / Question, Please -- Jurors....

2008-04-24 Thread Volokh, Eugene
it is necessary to maintain the kingdom of Christ. -- John Calvin. -Original Message- From: Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 3:39 pm Subject: RE: JOHN LOFTON

A guideline for list members

2008-04-24 Thread Volokh, Eugene
. -Original Message- From: Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 3:44 pm Subject: RE: JOHN LOFTON / Question, Please -- Jurors What's

Question about English law on religion and marriages

2008-04-18 Thread Volokh, Eugene
An English newspaper site reports: http://www.islingtongazette.co.uk/content/islington/gazette/news/story.a spx?brand=ISLGOnlinecategory=newstBrand=northlondon24tCategory=newsis lgitemid=WeED16%20Apr%202008%2013%3A51%3A32%3A940 Newington Green Unitarian Church, which the 18th century

Lee v. Weisman and compulsion to photograph a religious ceremony

2008-04-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Last week, the New Mexico Human Rights Commission held that Elane Photography (a husband-and-wife photography business for which the primary photographer is the wife, Elaine Huguenin) violate New Mexico public accommodation discrimination law by refusing to photograph a same-sex commitment

RE: Lee v. Weisman and compulsion to photograph a religious ceremony

2008-04-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
a commitment ceremony or wedding considered necessary? Disclosure: I am a lesbian and a landscape photographer. Jean. On Apr 15, 2008, at Tue, Apr 15, 6:55 AM, Volokh, Eugene wrote: Last week, the New Mexico Human Rights Commission held that Elane Photography (a husband-and-wife

RE: Exceptions from sound ordinances for church bells

2008-04-08 Thread Volokh, Eugene
. -- Original message -- From: Douglas Laycock [EMAIL PROTECTED] What noise did the union want to make? Quoting Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A Houston ordinance imposes various restrictions on the use of sound equipment, but excepts (among other

Exceptions from sound ordinances for church bells

2008-04-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
A Houston ordinance imposes various restrictions on the use of sound equipment, but excepts (among other things) church bells or church chimes when used as part of a religious observance or service during daytime hours, provided the sound did not cumulatively exceed five minutes

FW: amish vs building codes

2008-03-18 Thread Volokh, Eugene
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--amish-buildingc od0318mar18,0,5223481.story MORRISTOWN, N.Y. (AP) _ The religious rights of 10 Old Order Amish men are being violated by an upstate New York town that is selectively prosecuting them for building homes without permits, a

Religious accommodation regime map of the U.S. + request for

2008-03-13 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I've put the latest copy of my religious accommodation regime map of the U.S. -- from the upcoming Third Edition of my First Amendment textbook -- at http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/religionmap.jpg (if the shading looks a bit ugly for you, zoom in to get the best effect). Please feel free

Impermissible religious discrimination / viewpoint discrimination?

2008-03-10 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I just ran across Ky. Rev. Stat. § 344.130, which defines place of public accommodation for purposes of state antidiscrimination law, and has the following exception: (3) Place of public accommodation, resort, or amusement does not include a religious organization and its activities and

Yoder and homeschooling rights

2008-03-05 Thread Volokh, Eugene
The Cal. Ct. App. just rejected a claim of a constitutional right to homeschool (http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/B195072.DOC). The Pierce/Meyer parental rights argument was rejected on the strength of 50-year-old California precedent, but I thought that I'd ask this list

Sorry, wrong link to the homeschooling case

2008-03-05 Thread Volokh, Eugene
It should be http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/B192878.DOC Eugene ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see

Establishment Clause and government action outside the U.S.

2008-02-21 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I vaguely recall that there was a case dealing with an Establishment Clause challenge to some government action outside the U.S. -- perhaps government funding of certain religious institutions or some such. But my quick searches couldn't find it; can anyone help me? Or am I just making it

RE: Establishment Clause and government action outside the U.S.

2008-02-21 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Aha! Lamont v. Woods, 948 F.2d 825 (2nd Cir. 1991) -- thanks very much. Special factoid bonus: The second named plaintiff was Isaac Asimov. Eugene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Stern Sent:

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Volokh, Eugene
: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:21:31 -0800 From: Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Scalia and Motive To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Chip Lupu writes: I think we have to go back to Prof. Finkelman's realist question: Justice Scalia has (both

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-19 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Chip Lupu writes: I think we have to go back to Prof. Finkelman's realist question: Justice Scalia has (both before and after Smith) voted to uphold Free Exercise claims (Frazee, Lukumi, Locke v. Davey), but I don't believe he has EVER voted against the government in an Establishment

RE: Scalia and Motive

2008-02-18 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I had thought that the Texas Monthly dissent was simply accepting the pre-Smith Free Exercise Clause caselaw, whether because Scalia at the time hadn't yet squarely focused on the question -- recall that he joined the majority in Hobbie two years before, and didn't join Rehnquist's dissent,

Another Michigan preference-for-the-more-religious-parent case

2008-02-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Dik v. Dik, 2008 WL 376404 (Mich. App. Feb. 12): As to raising Emma [age 2.5 at the time], the trial court found that this sub-factor favored plaintiff based on the testimony that plaintiff had a stronger religious background and was more actively involved in bringing the minor child to

RE: Another Michigan preference-for-the-more-religious-parent case

2008-02-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
for the Michigan Messenger, which drew heavily on your NYU Law Review article on the subject. Ed Brayton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 7:19 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law

RE: Archbishop Williams and Sharia Courts

2008-02-08 Thread Volokh, Eugene
clause on grounds applicable to enforcement of contracts generally, so for example a showing of duress will defeat the arbitration clause). Vance On Feb 7, 2008 11:05 PM, Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't

Worker compensation death benefits and death caused by religiously motivated blood transfusion refusal

2008-02-08 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Floyd Wilcut drove a truck for Innovative Warehousing. He was involved in an on-the-job auto accident; he needed a transfusion, but refused to accept it, and as a result died. The question is whether the employer is legally liable for death benefits, given a statutory provision

RE: Archbishop Williams and Sharia Courts

2008-02-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Is the Archbishop talking about different legal rules for different communities selected by government decision, or just about binding arbitration (in whatever system, religious or otherwise, of their choice) for those parties who so agree by contract? I had assumed it was the latter, but

RE: Archbishop Williams and Sharia Courts

2008-02-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
. If such secular agreements are allowed, it seems to me religious ones should be as well, and on much the same terms. Eugene -Original Message- From: Paul Finkelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:23 PM To: Volokh, Eugene; religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject

FW from Joel Nichols: Law/Religion list posting on Archbishop Williams

2008-02-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
, February 07, 2008 7:23 PM To: Volokh, Eugene; religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Archbishop Williams and Sharia Courts the latter might make some sense, but might also leave some people -- women especially -- deprived of civil rights; furthermore, what happens to someone who leaves

RE: FW from Joel Nichols: Law/Religion list posting on ArchbishopWilliams

2008-02-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Would allowing enforcement of contractually agreed secular arbitration, but barring enforcement of contractually agreed religious arbitration, be constitutional? Or would it violate the Free Exercise Clause, especially if people argued that they felt a religious command (or at least

RE: harms caused by discrimination

2008-02-04 Thread Volokh, Eugene
writing on this thread simply led to my thinking about this distinction. Alan Brownstein From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Tue 1/29/2008 3:56 PM To: Law Religion

Photographer's right to refuse to photograph a commitment ceremony?

2008-01-29 Thread Volokh, Eugene
The ADF reports that the New Mexico Human Rights Bureau is holding a hearing on a complaint against a husband-and-wife photography business which who refused to photograph a same-sex commitment ceremony. http://www.alliancedefensefund.org/news/story.aspx?cid=4369 I take it that

RE: Photographer's right to refuse to photograph a commitmentceremony?

2008-01-29 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I sympathize with Doug's view, and the arguments for it. But it's important to recognize that there are two possible reasons one can support antidiscrimination law: (1) One wants to make sure that people have reasonably equal access to various services without regard to race, religion,

RE: Shielding child whose mother is A from father's B lifestyle/ideology/religion?

2008-01-28 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Well, I like to think that the key question here isn't whether one is a lawyer or an academic, but rather the strength of one's arguments and the backing they have in caselaw. As it happens, many courts have held that a party's constitutional rights will sometimes stop a court from acting

RE: A judge preferring the more religious parent

2008-01-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:26 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics; Law Religion issues for Law Academics Cc: Volokh, Eugene Subject: Re: A judge preferring the more religious parent Good question. We've been over this before

A judge preferring the more religious parent

2008-01-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
interests. No constitutional problem, correct? Eugene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:06 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics; Law Religion issues for Law Academics Cc: Volokh, Eugene Subject: Re

Shielding child whose mother is A from father's B lifestyle/ideology/religion?

2008-01-24 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Vance's proposed approach has the merit of being, at least facially, viewpoint-neutral; and I take it that it would apply to all ideologies, religious or otherwise. But let me probe whether it is indeed so. Say, for instance, a child has been raised in a racist household. After the

RE: Shielding child whose mother is Catholic from father'sWiccanlifestyle?

2008-01-24 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Enforcing the parties' express agreement is one thing (cf. Cohen v. Cowles Media in the free speech context). But restricting the speech of a parent -- whether religious or political -- without an express agreement is quite another. Also, if the rule applied by the New York court was

RE: Shielding child whose mother is A from father's Blifestyle/ideology/religion?

2008-01-24 Thread Volokh, Eugene
don't think that religiosity *as such* is the principal point; the child's psyche is the principal point and courts should evaluate claims strictly on that basis. On Jan 24, 2008 12:59 PM, Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vance's

RE: Shielding child whose mother is A from father's B lifestyle/ideology/religion?

2008-01-24 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Actually, the New York appellate court approved a father's petition for overnight visitation, but stressed that this was done only because the father and his fiancee agreed to refrain from exposing the child to any ceremony connected to their religious practices, and because the Family

Shielding child whose mother is Catholic from father's Wiccan lifestyle?

2008-01-23 Thread Volokh, Eugene
A recent New York state appellate court decision upheld a father's petition for overnight visitation, but stressed that this was done only because the father and his fiancee agreed to refrain from exposing the child to any ceremony connected to their religious practices, and because the

Mass self-flaggelation for the Muslim holiday Ashura

2008-01-22 Thread Volokh, Eugene
A blog reader asked about this; my guess is that there aren't any generally applicable laws barring the public drawing of blood in the first instance, but if there were, it seems to me this would raise some interesting questions under state statutory or constitutional rules that provide

RE: RLUIPA and inmates' right to have sex with their spouses

2008-01-18 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Jean Dudley writes: I'd say that yes, the courts would have to uphold conjugal visits. OK, say that this is so. Now would that create problems of discrimination in favor of religion that are far more serious than the norm (a normal level of discrimination which Cutter v. Wilkinson

RLUIPA and inmates' right to have sex with their spouses

2008-01-18 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From Bryant v. Tilton, 2008 WL 149990 (E.D. Cal. 2008): On March 9, 2007, plaintiff commenced this action by filing a complaint, challenging the constitutionality of the Family (Overnight) Visiting program as adopted by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR).

RE: Need an expert on religion in custody cases

2008-01-04 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I'm happy to report that the decision reported in the Time story was from 1970, and was promptly reversed by the New Jersey Supreme Court. In re Adoption of E, 59 N.J. 36 (1971). Some preference for the religious (or the more religious) parent in child custody cases (not, to my

RFRA and drawing blood for DNA database

2007-12-19 Thread Volokh, Eugene
(1) I was hoping we could change the subject line, simply to be more accurate -- the Ninth Circuit remanded for further proceedings on the RFRA claim, but I think it did not hold that the RFRA claim will prevail, even as to drawing blood. (2) I don't think that IV drug use is a

RE: RFRA and drawing blood for DNA database

2007-12-19 Thread Volokh, Eugene
hunt? Steve On Dec 19, 2007 4:38 PM, Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) I was hoping we could change the subject line, simply to be more accurate -- the Ninth Circuit remanded for further

Meditation room in community college

2007-12-17 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Any thoughts on the story? My sense is that this would be permissible if the room were open to all student groups (or at least all student groups that are religious or antireligious), even if it turned out that other groups had no inclination to use it. But I'd love to hear what others think.

RE: An email of possible relevance

2007-12-17 Thread Volokh, Eugene
This is apparently a myth. See http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/memorial.asp; among other things, it includes what appears to be a photo of the inscription, which actually quotes a different line from the speech -- a line that's not followed by so help us God. Eugene

FW from Marie Failinger: JLR call for papers

2007-11-26 Thread Volokh, Eugene
-Original Message- From: Marie A. Failinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:15 PM To: Volokh, Eugene Subject: JLR call for papers Eugene, might I ask you to post this once more, since the deadline is coming up? If you can, thanks so much. CALL FOR PAPERS

RE: Is First Amendment viewpoint-discriminatory against antigayspeech?

2007-11-09 Thread Volokh, Eugene
antigayspeech? I don't know where you get your information. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 6:29 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Is First Amendment

RE: Is First Amendment viewpoint-discriminatory against antigayspeech?

2007-11-09 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 6:27 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Is First Amendment viewpoint-discriminatory against antigayspeech? I'm puzzled: It's

Criminal ban on sex between clergy and those who are seeking religious or spiritual advice, aid, or comfort

2007-11-09 Thread Volokh, Eugene
State v. Bussmann, Minn. Supreme Ct., Nov. 1, 2007, http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=MNvol=sc\0711\OP A051782-1101invol=1, upholds such a ban by an equally divided court, but concludes that as applied the ban violated the Establishment Clause: [T]he district court

RE: Is First Amendment viewpoint-discriminatory against antigayspeech?

2007-11-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 4:59 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Is First Amendment viewpoint-discriminatory against antigayspeech? The major purveyors of informal violence are street

RE: Is First Amendment viewpoint-discriminatory against antigayspeech?

2007-11-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
of a conflict: victims of violence or mainstream (or not so mainstream) religious groups. See point 1 above. We have different priorities and interests. I strongly prefer mine. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene

Funeral picketing vs. residential picketing

2007-11-06 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Some have tried to defend the Snyder decision by analogy to bans on residential picketing. I think there are huge differences between residential picketing bans (which are content-neutral, narrow, and relatively clear) and the IIED tort and the intrusion upon seclusion tort relied on in

RE: Of Phelps and Persecution

2007-11-06 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Sat 11/3/2007 2:14 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Of Phelps and Persecution Alan: What if a town enacted

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