Can anyone tell me for testing purposes if there is a way to set the
tones off on a weather radio. What is the sequence they use to make
them tone off?
Mathew
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Gregg,
Also remember, the drive to the amp is controlled by the amps power
control.
73
AC0Y
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Gregg Lengling
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Okay not real familiar with the VHF version of this repeater, just
need to
know one thing. What is the minimum out of
You are right about the folks over at Cook Tower. Dean will talk radio till
the cows come home. Plus it is toll free. Nice folks. But this time you will
want to call Communications Spec. in CA. 800-854-0547
They can hook you up with an incode only unit for under $30.00 I think
$27.00 but don't
At 04:56 PM 6/6/04 -0400, you wrote:
Hey Don,
It really is not all that good.
About 20 to 30 miles as a rule and when the skip comes up much less. smile
Way to many repeaters on to few pairs. It would be nice if every on would PL
there 10 meter repeater but %^*(*^ guys just won't.
73 Russ, W3CH
What are you going to use it for? I cant remember but I think that
the DVP would work through repeaters. As far as DES-XL I don't know.
I'm versed in DES, as I designed a DES encreption/ decryption modem
a few years ago for the military. The DES aproach is very likely a
64 bit serial
Actually near the input to the amp under the cover is the exciter power
control circuitfound that after searching the manuals. Getting 1.45
watts now and driving the amp at 45uA so all is good there, now to figure
out that it's the next driver or the matched drivers that are badpretty
At 11:48 PM 6/6/04 +, you wrote:
Can anyone tell me for testing purposes if there is a way to set the
tones off on a weather radio. What is the sequence they use to make
them tone off?
Mathew
For a regular weather RX it's audio consisting of just a 1050hz tone for one
second (i.e. just the
What part it should go there with out modification...But not enough
info.
73
AC0Y
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Can this unit be modified to go below 450Mc? Also are there any
docs
posted on the Web somewhere? Thanks
Laryn K8TVZ
Thanks Mike, if the same codes were not put into the weather radio, it
should not require the same codes to be sent is what I am thinking. I sent
a 1050 Hz tone from the service monitor, that did not open the receiver.
Somewhere in my boxes of junk I should have a plain old weather receiver.
Just
Can this unit be modified to go below 450Mc? Also are there any docs
posted on the Web somewhere? Thanks
Laryn K8TVZ
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Depends on the module that you have installed in the unit. I have one
comming that is set for the 25 to 50 Mhz range. Then you have the high
band, ultra high band, and so one.
Mathew
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Hello Rich:
W4FOT Martin Harris here in Etowah, NC Just outside of Hendersonville.
What kind of help do you need ?
Martin
W4FOT
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From: Rich Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:38 PM
To:
Hey Don,
We have a lot of rolling hill. The repeater tx is along the Delaware river
25 feet amsl with in 5 miles the ground jumps up to almost 400 feet And as
you go NNW even more. So line of sight get bad when you get behind a hill.
73 Russ,
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From: Don [EMAIL
The CE3 would not cover 440-450, the CE2A would.
Don't know of any mod. Used a CE3 from 75 thru 81 with only a scope xformer
fail, and several replaceable pads in the generator line lost their smoke
and fuse.
Ssb
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From: Coy Hilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The module is a tunable preselector vs a broadband front end.
Ssb
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From: Mathew Quaife [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 9:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE3
Depends on the module that you have
Thanks Steve, that was the word I was looking for.
Mathew
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From: Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 7:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Cushman CE3
The module is a tunable preselector vs
Well that answers that, it will work on a regular weather radio, but will
not work on with the SAME. Well back to the drawing board. Guess I will
have to wait until the next storm rolls in.
Mathew
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From: Mike WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
I also think that NWS performs weekly tests of SAME transmissions on
Wednesdays between and 11-1PM. Check with NWS in your area and
you may not have to wait until the next storm.
Jim, KC1RM
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From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
OK, more info
The PLL? goes into unlock below 450.000Mc. So that was the subject
of my question, although I didn't say so. The preselector is the
tunable 140-175Mc unit. As you know, it is switchable to an ultra-
wide mode with no tuning. So it seems that won't get in the way once
On all the units that I have, they either respond to the 1050 Hz tone,
or SAME, but not both. The SAME units ONLY respond to SAME codes. The
tone units only respond to tone.
This won't help you, but there is a code to program the SAME receivers
with so they will respond to ANY alert, but they
Thanks Jim, just that I work on Wednesdays, I'm just not winning here. If I
could get a schematic of this critter then I would be able to tell what I am
looking for. All I need to know is which way the diode lights go when the
tones go off. Actually if I could just fine one of the old
The CE3 should work at 2 meter ham band. I know that it works
(normaly) in the vhf band and the 450 commertial bands because it is
what I used for several years before the CE50 and the CE4 came
alongin our shop.
IF It goes out of lock when you try say, setting it for 155.000 mhz
there is a
What about a singal generator, think that would send them?
Mathew
On all the units that I have, they either respond to the 1050 Hz tone,
or SAME, but not both. The SAME units ONLY respond to SAME codes. The
tone units only respond to tone.
This won't help you, but there is a code to
DVP is the lowest level of encryption DES/DVP were the 1st types. They found that there was range problems and the "XL" versions came out. DVP was sold to the general public, DES was only sold to government agencies. Both do not meet the current government standards. A conventional repeater will
You need to send data in the correct format. This is like asking of a SM
(or a SG) can generate packet. No, none that I know of can by
themselves. I'm sure there is a way to use the external modulation port
(if it has one) to inject the SAME datastream onto the signal, but I
don't know of anyone
The 1050 hz tone is the original arert tone that was used
before the SAME system was installed. It is still transmitted
with a duration of 8-10 seconds,is not area specific and will
give a warning for the whole coverage area of the station, sometimes
as much as 5000 square miles.
Generating a SAME
At 10:00 PM 6/6/04, Mathew Quaife wrote:
Thanks Jim, just that I work on Wednesdays, I'm just not winning here. If I
could get a schematic of this critter then I would be able to tell what I am
looking for. All I need to know is which way the diode lights go when the
tones go off. Actually if
All I need is to get an output form a Midland Weather radio that can go into
my repeater to set off an alert for the local area So Maybe if I leave
it on Wednesday it will take off and be on when I get home.HiHi...
Mathew
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From: hwingate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
The Cushman factory had an optional kit that became available
later in the CE3 production ... but I don't know where to get
the info on it.
Neil
Laryn Lohman wrote:
Can this unit be modified to go below 450Mc? Also are there any
docs posted on the Web somewhere? Thanks
Laryn
At 08:00 PM 6/6/04 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks Jim, just that I work on Wednesdays, I'm just not winning here.
Got a video camera and a tripod?
Hook the camera to your VCR and program it to record from
11am to 1pm on Wednesday (or whenever the test is done in
your area).
If I
could get a schematic
I have the two Test Wav Files for Turning on and off the Weather Receiver ,
But Please be aware You must be a responsible user and not set off
everyone Receiver in the Neighbor hood, Especially You local Police and
Schools Etc . I got tired of Waiting Every Wed to test MY Receiver when I
was
When I was playing with SAME weather radios a couple of years back, I
called the local NWS weather office and found out what time they were
going to conduct their test. I then set up a timer on a cassette recorder to
record the broadcast.
I guess you could use this as the audio source for a
Check out the file section of this List, And lookin doc's folder for a wiring diagram for a weather radio to a controller.Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All I need is to get an output form a Midland Weather radio that can go intomy repeater to set off an alert for the local area So
Point to point link ID requirement:
1) When the link is first brought up and taken down
2) When the link is first brought up and taken down and every 10 minutes of
operation
3) At the end of communications
4) All of the above
The winner receives an atta boy!
Ken
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Ken,
I would think this is a no-brainer... as option 2 is inclusive of the
others and 10min interval is a requirement.
mike
K5JMP
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From: Ken Arck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 11:00 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
At 11:09 AM 6/7/2004 -0400, you wrote:
Ken,
I would think this is a no-brainer... as option 2 is inclusive of the
others and 10min interval is a requirement.
I keep getting dragged back into the ID debate but only as it applies
to auxiliary stations. Your position is my position - it
OK... let's see... that makes three atta-boys...
One more equals a cardboard cookie? ;-))
Mike
K5JMP
At 08:51 AM 06/07/2004 -0700, you wrote:
At 11:09 AM 6/7/2004 -0400, you wrote:
Ken,
I would think this is a no-brainer... as option 2 is inclusive of the
others and 10min interval is
Kevin is going to hate this discussion but, does a link need
to be turned down every 10 minutes? It is by the fact is not
a repeater output, need to be off every ten minutes at all?
Neil - WA6KLA
Mike Perryman wrote:
Ken,
I would think this is a no-brainer... as option 2 is
ID every ten mintutes and at the end too.
Neil - WA6KLA
Ken Arck wrote:
Point to point link ID requirement:
1) When the link is first brought up and taken down
2) When the link is first brought up and taken down and every 10
minutes of operation
3) At the end of
I'll provide my own 'choice'. 5) The same as any other Part 97 station.
Joe M.
Ken Arck wrote:
Point to point link ID requirement:
1) When the link is first brought up and taken down
2) When the link is first brought up and taken down and every 10 minutes of
operation
3) At the end of
I have been watching the thread, with exactly the same thought...
Mike
K5JMP
At 09:46 AM 06/07/2004 -0700, you wrote:
An idea that just poped into my head ... if one would record with their
computer the Wednesday noon S.A.M.E. test braodcast message through a
scanner or radio that has a
There are a few variables in figuring this out, one is the actual path loss,
which is 65db per mile, output power which is 53dbm, and then the
sensitivity of the receiver on the other end, and most radios are in the
-102 to -107dbm receive sensitivity. So with all this information you can
figure
From: hwingate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weather Radios
The 1050 hz tone is the original arert tone that was used
before the SAME system was installed. It is still transmitted
with a duration of 8-10 seconds,is not area specific and will
give a warning for the whole
There are a few variables in figuring this out, one is the
actual path loss, which is 65db per mile, output power which
65 dB per mile???!? What happened to the inverse-square law?
I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns
on the set, I go into the other room and read a
Of corse you can allway jump in the car and ride around.
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From: Joe LaGanga [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] East coast system?
There are a few variables in figuring this out,
I don't know about the inverse-square law only what my excel spreadsheet tells
me for path loss as I am too old to do all that math in my head.
JLg
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From: Jeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, June 7, 2004 2:08 pm
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] East coast
number 4.
73,
Chris, KG0BP
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From: Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:59 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Oh Lord, not another Part 97 question!
Point to point link ID requirement:
1) When the link is
Oops forgot to say with the base encoder you also have Over the Air
Rekeyingdefinitely a nice toy.
Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
Member: ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC
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From: bredalrv1
I've used them for Military Applications (ANG) and they work well.
Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired
Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org
K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57
Member: ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC
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From: bredalrv1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday,
send me your email address and info on your plains and I will send you some
info.
thanks John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: bredalrv1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Question on
we are receiving what appears to be a new catv cable leak that sounds
like a loud machine like buzz. maybe 300 hz or the like. it seems to
be right at 145.15 and all over the place near there when we hear it.
driving us nuts where is cable tv broadband spectum wise.
our local cable co just
Nope - you don't need to be home, and you already have a
long-term recorder in your house right now.
Take your VCR, and set it to record from the external video
and audio jacks. Stick a tape in it - any tape will give you at
least 2 hours, extended play mode up to 6. Program the VCR to
record
Hi Guys, Any one ever find a replacement for the 301 scope transformer? I
have 3 Cushman and 2 have bad transformers. The High voltage windings are
open. thanks for your help Ron WA6UNM
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From: Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 06,
BUT,the weekly test wont light any LED's if thats
where you are taking your signal from. Just find the high side of the led and
send it to a buffer of some kind and then on to the controller input. If you
want both to trigger one line,"OR" them together.
I was going to upgrade my wx rx,but
At 07:59 AM 6/7/04 -0700, you wrote:
Point to point link ID requirement:
1) When the link is first brought up and taken down
2) When the link is first brought up and taken down and every 10 minutes of
operation
3) At the end of communications
4) All of the above
The winner receives an atta boy!
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