[Repeater-Builder] Frequency Calibration (was Re: Bomar TC'ing elements and ICOMS)

2004-12-20 Thread kc7gf
Since your on the ham bands, there is no requirement as to you being on any frequency as long as it is in within the repeater limits of the ham bands. However, your local coordinating council may require you are within +/- so many cycles. I like to stick to the commercial standards in use in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciterin duplex service.

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Kelley
It will come to 5 volts if you find a ferrite slug. I got some out of an old HT... don't remember if it was a Motorola or what, but it had the right size slugs for PLL exciters. I *may* have more of them around, but would have to look. Paul N1BUG On Sunday 19 December 2004 07:01 pm, DCFluX

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Insurance

2004-12-20 Thread Mark Holman
Its called tweaking the Spam Filter, and its not a set it and forget it. I have continually have to check the TRASH bin and train the program what to ignore or trash it. SOFTWARE is not a perfect componet subject to revisions, bugs, fixes, Beta Versions, etc.. Mark Holman AB8RU Happy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciter in duplex service.

2004-12-20 Thread Wade Lake
Kevin, I now realize the mistake I was making in looking at this. I am used toseeing newer PLL's with a much higher reference oscillator frequency and having a divider in the reference side before the Phase Comparator. In that case the stability does improve over that of the reference

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciterin duplex service.

2004-12-20 Thread N5IUF
I don't want to beat a dead horse, or be critical of anyone, or act like a "know it all" but I may be able to sheda little morelight on this subject for those who are interested. Those of you who aren't, just hit the delete key now. I have designed many different PLL circuits in

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciterin duplex service.

2004-12-20 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Paul Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will come to 5 volts if you find a ferrite slug. I got some out of an old HT... don't remember if it was a Motorola or what, but it had the right size slugs for PLL exciters. I *may* have more of them around,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciter in duplex service.

2004-12-20 Thread Joe Montierth
The frequency stability of any transmitter is only as good as it's reference oscillator (be that a PLL or a multiplied crystal)- dividing or multiplying the frequency will not change that constant (in PPM). It doesn't matter if you use a 100KHz, 1MHz, 10MHz or 100MHz reference frequency, if they

[Repeater-Builder] Re: HEY Cushman CE-3,4,5,6 users

2004-12-20 Thread ocwarren2000
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, dep_ru_kidding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some pre-selectors and Scopes for the Cushman service monitors hanging out in my garage I need to get rid of and I'd like to get something for em. If you have intrest send me an e-mail and we'll

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciter in duplex service.

2004-12-20 Thread Kevin Custer
Hi Wade, Kevin, I now realize the mistake I was making in looking at this. I am used toseeing newer PLL's with a much higher reference oscillator frequency and having a divider in the reference side before the Phase Comparator. In that case the stability does improve over

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciterin duplex service.

2004-12-20 Thread Kevin Custer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think GE realized that the old multiplier highband exciter needed a design revisit, and chose a PLL version over a conventional multiplier for more reasons than just enhanced noise performance. The PLL version requires very little tuning, thus reducing labor

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GP-68 info

2004-12-20 Thread Neil McKie
Ok, what is a GP-68? Sounds like a Diesel Locomotive ... Neil - WA6KLA Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: Anybody got an answer to this email which I got from a friend? Do you know anybody who can do an alignment on a GP-68? I acquired one which is almost 1khz off frequency and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GP-68 info

2004-12-20 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Anybody got an answer to this email which I got from a friend? Do you know anybody who can do an alignment on a GP-68? I acquired one which is almost 1khz off frequency and would like to get it calibrated correctly. Or is it something I can do myself? Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GP-68 info

2004-12-20 Thread Buley, Kenneth L \(GE Consumer Industrial\)
It is a re-imported Motorola export only HT that covers commercial/ham, can be user programmed, and is not supported in the US by Big M. It is relatively cheap on eBay and, once programmed, is fairly easy to use, but, again, don't expect to find local service support from Motorola. It is

[Repeater-Builder] GP - Diesel Locomotive

2004-12-20 Thread bbedoe
In a message dated 12/20/2004 7:45:51 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, what is a GP-68? Sounds like a Diesel Locomotive ... Neil - WA6KLA My Dad who is a 35 year retired Electro-Motive employee, Thanks you! Electro Motive are the builders of GM's Diesel

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystal Phase Noise?

2004-12-20 Thread Kevin Custer
Scott wrote: Hello All Here is a "crystal" question for the group. Do crystals vary in the amount of random phase noise produced in or by a typical crystal oscillator / FM modulator circuit as used in a typical repeater transmitter? Now, more to the issue. I have a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: HEY Cushman CE-3,4,5,6 users

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Finch
Hello, I would like to buy a 301 a scope module or a deviation meter for a CE 4, either one if you have it. Paul -Original Message- From: ocwarren2000 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 5:14 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: HEY Cushman CE-3,4,5,6 users

2004-12-20 Thread ocwarren2000
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, dep_ru_kidding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some pre-selectors and Scopes for the Cushman service monitors hanging out in my garage I need to get rid of and I'd like to get something for em. If you have intrest send me an e-mail and we'll

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciter in duplex service.

2004-12-20 Thread Kevin Custer
Joe Montierth wrote: The frequency stability of any transmitter is only as good as it's reference oscillator (be that a PLL or a multiplied crystal)- dividing or multiplying the frequency will not change that constant (in PPM). It doesn't matter if you use a 100KHz, 1MHz, 10MHz or 100MHz

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR-830

2004-12-20 Thread N9WYS
Well, gang. I finally have the monster in my hot little hands!! And I find it is NOT a TKR-830, but rather a TKR-820... From reading the Repeater-Builder's web page, I see that Gene - WB0PKP has a TKR-820 operating on the ham band. Gene - if you're out there reading this, can you get in touch

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Crystal Phase Noise?

2004-12-20 Thread skipp025
Do crystals vary in the amount of random phase noise produced in or by a typical crystal oscillator / FM modulator circuit as used in a typical repeater transmitter? Do crystals vary in produced FM (phase) noise. Yes, but I would not label the noise as phase noise. If the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Pasternack

2004-12-20 Thread jeff
Does anybody actually order from them? I've gotten a catalog for years, but never ordered. Prices were too high and minimum out of reach. Chuck WB2EDV Yeah, I ordered from them occasionally when I couldn't find what I needed anywhere else (75 ohm type N's come to mind). Prices are

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TKR-820

2004-12-20 Thread skipp025
N9WYS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, gang. I finally have the monster in my hot little hands!! And I findit is NOT a TKR-830, but rather a TKR-820... From reading the Repeater -Builder's web page, I see that Gene - WB0PKP has a TKR-820 operating on the ham band. I have 5 of them in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crystal Phase Noise?

2004-12-20 Thread Scott
Thanks for the reply Kevin- ---Subject repeaters will have to remain unnamed as I currently enjoy a good relationship with their point of origin and I want very much to keep the situation that way. I will say however that transmitter circuit wise , they are esentially the same as

[Repeater-Builder] KENWOOD KPT-20

2004-12-20 Thread cobalto27mx
Anyone have programming instructions for the Kenwood KPT-20 i need program the 27c64 eprom for tk-720 ALGUIEN TIENE LAS INSTRUCCIONES PARA EL KENWOOD KPT-20, NECECITO PROGRAMAR EL EPROM 27C64DE UN TK-720 THANKS-GRACIAS JESUS Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GP-68 info

2004-12-20 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Basically 20 channels of 438-470mhz, user programmable (i.e. from the front panel). No alpha tags, tho. One neat feature is that it has a 16-button touchtone pad. And some have type acceptance labels, some don't. The radio comes with the keyboard programming feature disabled, you have to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: KENWOOD KPT-20

2004-12-20 Thread skipp025
Hola Jesus, ¿la información del regulador de CSI que yo le envió trabajan correctamente? ¿Podía usted reajustar la contraseña? respeto skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com cobalto27mx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have programming instructions for the Kenwood KPT-20 i need program the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Source for custom made cables

2004-12-20 Thread Bob Dengler
At 12/18/2004 11:07 AM, you wrote: Bill Pasternak will build you any kind of cable assembly for a price. Pasternak Enterprises P. O. Box 16759 Irvine, CA 92623 Ph 714-261-1920 That's Pasternack. Not affiliated with Bill Pasternak AFAIK. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GP-68 info

2004-12-20 Thread Neil McKie
Oh! Ok, Thanks. Neil Buley, Kenneth L (GE Consumer Industrial) wrote: It is a re-imported Motorola export only HT that covers commercial/ham, can be user programmed, and is not supported in the US by Big M. It is relatively cheap on eBay and, once programmed, is fairly

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Mastr II PLL vs. Multiplier (crystal) exciterin duplex service.

2004-12-20 Thread Bob Dengler
At 12/19/2004 10:29 PM, you wrote: When it comes to Phase noise of an oscillator, the higher the Q of the resonant circuit, the better the phase noise. An LC circuit generally will have a Q of around 100 where a crystal can have a Q of 10,000 to 500,000, thus a crystal oscillator generally

RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Ferro-Resonant Transformer PS

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Finch
Hello, You may want to go to http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_9/6.htmlfor a good theory of operation. Paul -Original Message-From: Fred Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 7:44 AMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: