RE: [Repeater-Builder] Statistics

2007-02-16 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
And it's REALLY annoying when a Yahoo email account HARD BOUNCES a YhaooGroups email message!!! I have a POP proxy draining my Yahoo email accounts , and my Gmail accounts set up fro direct POP access, and that along with a couple of other POP boxes all feeding into my copy of Eudora Pro. I have

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Maxwell D Pratt
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are going to use this Antenna to work on and test radio's need a split of 135 to 174 I don't that will be possible, Most antenna will cover that range but you have to trim them for a certain Freq some are

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Effects of doubling RF output on UHF repeater?

2007-02-16 Thread Fred Flowers
Interesting, I actually sent this out on the 5th. Between Yahoo Bellsouth, who knows what bucket it was stuck in? Fred N4GER -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Flowers Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:00 AM To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Gary Schafer
Well lets look at the riddle , swinging a radiator acree 20 or 30 megs of bandwidth it will tune and still radiate but will it have appreciable gain away from certain design points? I think not . Laryn K8TVZ where did I mention resonance ? resonance of course being point normally

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread ocwarren2000
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Yahoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a number of old post on this subject. Take a look at the 4 bay dipole antennas from Antenex (made by Bluewave). VERY broadband. As for whether or not they are expensive is a matter of personal opinion. Jeff

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Barry C' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I presume its some sort of stacked arrangment , in chich case it will make that gain at resonance , Yes, the ASPB602 is four stacked dipoles, just like the DB224. My point again is that resonance is NOT a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Laryn Lohman
I've been watching this topic and cannot recommend the half wave dipole bay antennas as not really efficient gain wise for what one gets for the effort.. The Station Master series has been mentioned, which has good omnidirectional gain, in the order of some 10 db, and which

[Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 PL board questions

2007-02-16 Thread kk2ed
Just picked up a used PL board for an MSR2000 and have a few questions: 1. I need to replace the reeds for my desired PL freq. The unit came supplied with two vibrasponder reeds (same PL). I want to use the card for decode as well as tx encode out. Do I also need to continue to use two

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Paul Finch
And does not turn into toothpicks when struck by lightning! Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:29 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood Power cable

2007-02-16 Thread skipp025
Hi Mike, I keep new Kenwood, Pyramid, Midland, EF Johnson and some Motorola power cables in stock. I also keep the kenwood mobile accessory cables in stock ... along the lines of kct-19 and kct-36 Email me direct if you can't find one second hand/source and ebay doesn't pan out. I might

[Repeater-Builder] Band Pass Duplexer Tuning

2007-02-16 Thread fxbuilder
There is a great article on this site about tuning a notch duplexer by Kevin. Can similar methods be used for tuning a mobile 6 can band pass duplexer? Is there an article that I missed that explains it as easily? I need to re-tune and could use the help. I think I know how but thought I'd

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Band Pass Duplexer Tuning

2007-02-16 Thread Ken Arck
At 01:53 PM 2/16/2007, you wrote: There is a great article on this site about tuning a notch duplexer by Kevin. Can similar methods be used for tuning a mobile 6 can band pass duplexer? Is there an article that I missed that explains it as easily? I need to re-tune and could use the help. I think

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 PL board questions

2007-02-16 Thread skipp025
Re: PL board for an MSR2000 and have a few questions: I want to use the card for decode as well as tx encode out. Do I also need to continue to use two vibrasponder reeds, or do I need to use one 'sponder and one 'sender reed in the two slots (sounds more logical)? You can do both the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Band Pass Duplexer Tuning

2007-02-16 Thread skipp025
Yes there is... but it's really big even for UHF. Phelps Dodge Made one and I've seen a number of odd ball units around with Harris labels on them. Normally the smaller mobile duplexer are notch-pass (aka notch-notch). But everything is possible... and probably tried at least once. cheers,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Band Pass Duplexer Tuning

2007-02-16 Thread fxbuilder
I emailed the place I bought it from and that is what I was told. Band Pass. No caps on it for notch tuning as on celwave. Am I missing something here? Craig --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:53 PM 2/16/2007, you wrote: There is a great

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Band Pass Duplexer Tuning

2007-02-16 Thread Scott
If you are talking about a flat pak duplexer, they are easy. Hook a receiver (or scope) to the high side and set the monitor frequency to the low frequency. Inject the high freqency into the antenna port. Tune for the deepest null. Then hook the monitor to the low side set for the high

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Band Pass Duplexer Tuning

2007-02-16 Thread fxbuilder
Yes, this is a flat pack. The place I bought it from told me it was a band pass. Thanks Scott, I'll try your method. Craig --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are talking about a flat pak duplexer, they are easy. Hook a receiver (or scope) to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Band Pass Duplexer Tuning

2007-02-16 Thread Ken Arck
At 02:14 PM 2/16/2007, you wrote: Yes, this is a flat pack. The place I bought it from told me it was a band pass. Thanks Scott, I'll try your method. Craig Don't! Scott is talking about a notch type duplexer, not a pass band one. Ken --- In

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Band Pass Duplexer Tuning

2007-02-16 Thread Ken Arck
At 02:09 PM 2/16/2007, you wrote: I emailed the place I bought it from and that is what I was told. Band Pass. No caps on it for notch tuning as on celwave. Am I missing something here? ---As Skipp pointed out, most the so-called mobile duplexers are notch only. You have a make and model #?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Band Pass Duplexer Tuning

2007-02-16 Thread Gary Schafer
Are you sure it's not a notch type duplexer? It takes large cavities for a bandpass duplexer unless the spacing is quite wide. 73 Gary K4FMX -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fxbuilder Sent: Friday, February

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Band Pass Duplexer Tuning

2007-02-16 Thread Gary Schafer
Lots of the small mobile duplexers (notch type) have fixed capacitors inside and you can only adjust the cavity tuning, which tunes the notch. This type duplexer is limited in how far from the design frequency you can tune it as the capacitors are fixed. The cavities will tune but the loss goes.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Barry C'
From: Gary Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:40:47 -0500 Well lets look at the riddle , swinging a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Barry C'
From: Laryn Lohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:33:49 - --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Barry C' [EMAIL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Montierth
--- Barry C' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the ASPB602 is four stacked dipoles, just like the DB224. My point again is that resonance is NOT a requirement for an effective and efficient antenna. The wider frequency coverage for this antenna is likely because the dipoles are

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Gary Schafer
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry C' Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:15 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Rod Lane
Hi Jed. If you're not interested in a lot of gain, try a discone. They're about as broadbanded as you can get, and not too expensive. I bought one from the local ham shop in Newington for less than $100. It's good for 2 meters and up. I've seen some discones designed for scanners that

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Laryn Lohman
it's also not a stacked so bear little relevence to the matter Trying to understand what stacked has to do with the discussion... There is little or no automatic penalty for using a non-resonant antenna. just some efficiency Barry, try to understand that a resonant antenna is not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread mch
I have a rubber duck that outperforms three different MFR's discones. Joe M. Rod Lane wrote: Hi Jed. If you’re not interested in a lot of gain, try a discone. They’re about as broadbanded as you can get, and not too expensive. I bought one from the local ham shop in Newington for

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Barry C'
From: Gary Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:31:17 -0500 -Original Message- From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread Barry C'
From: Laryn Lohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 03:45:51 - it's also not a stacked so bear little relevence to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread no6b
At 2/15/2007 19:10, you wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Barry C' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have to suggest any copper that has a huge bandwidth will have gain on only one tuned area , Well, actually no. Resonance is not a requirement for an effective antenna with

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antennas that work both in commercial and amateur

2007-02-16 Thread no6b
At 2/16/2007 18:26, you wrote: I have a rubber duck that outperforms three different MFR's discones. If I understand it correctly, the discone is nothing more than a ground plane-imaged 3D bowtie, IOW a very simple design. What could go wrong? Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MLS

2007-02-16 Thread mch
They are very durable radios - built like a tank. Never had one in a repeater config, though. Joe M. Mike Reed wrote: I am looking for information, specs, etc on a GE MLS radio. I did a search on it, and there just isn't much on it. Are these good radios, how rugged are they, will they