RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Unimog Freightliner
If this was basic troubleshooting then you would have found your problem.    Your having a hard time as the list is long with questions.   Just trying to help,   --- On Tue, 10/7/08, Mike Besemer (WM4B) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

[Repeater-Builder] TLE1703A Schematic / TLD5492A4 Alignment Directions

2008-10-08 Thread Phil A. McBride
Hi all. We recently moved our Micor UHF and VHF repeaters to my home. However, the move seems to have broken the TLE1703A amp on the UHF repeater; Does anyone here have the schematic for this amp? The TLD5492A4 exciter is putting out 700mW as well which sounds a bit high. If anyone has the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Yep. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Schafer Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 11:35 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables Hi Mike, I am

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Skipp, Doing that produces some interesting noises in the receiver. It will go from full-quieting to complete garbage without much movement. Tapping, beating, and banging seem to have little to no effect. I think I'm going to tear them down again and reclean all the mating surfaces. I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
No. it really IS basic troubleshooting. I've eliminated everything BUT the cans, and I've tried to let that be known here. Swaptronics is easy. swap out what you have duplicates of and eliminate suspects until you narrow it down to the faulty subsystem component. I spent over 20 years in

[Repeater-Builder] RB Server upgrade - associated outage.

2008-10-08 Thread Kevin Custer
The Repeater Builder web server is undergoing an upgrade. It will be unavailable for a while. Thanks, Kevin Custer

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread no6b
At 10/7/2008 03:03, you wrote: With the tee connector split and the TX side going into a dummy load, there is no desense. If I reconnect the tee and go to the -8920, the desense is back. Make sure there's an isolator on the TX. I've seen severe desense using a perfectly good, tuned duplexer

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense with DB4060 Duplexer

2008-10-08 Thread skipp025
On one specific cavity or more than one? You're almost at the problem. No garbage with tapping, beating and banging is a good sign. One might guess you have some type of micro pitting and at least one hard point pitted contact on one of the mating surfaces. One or more of the metal plunger

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread DCFluX
Just out of curiosity what power supply are you using? I've seen a fair amount of RFI from the Astron SS series.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense with DB4060 Duplexer

2008-10-08 Thread Scott Zimmerman
If the silver plating seems to be scratched, I have had good luck with the products that are used to silver plate circuit boards. I don't recall the product name that I used, but it was/is available from Digikey and such. I merely used fine steel wool to polish the plunger and then used the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense with DB4060 Duplexer

2008-10-08 Thread Kevin Custer
skipp025 wrote: You didn't say how you'd cleaned the surface in the past. I would only use a Brass or hard Stainless Steel brush to avoid embedding non same metals into the plunger or contact surface. Using a common steel wire brush is not a good idea. s. Also NEVER use an over the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Jeff DePolo
With the tee connector split and the TX side going into a dummy load, there is no desense. If I reconnect the tee and go to the -8920, the desense is back. You lost me on that one. You're saying you're testing for desense by removing the tee from the antenna port of the duplexer, feeding

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Jeff DePolo
Skipp, Please explain your first statement. if I can't see it on the spectrum analyzer, then what is it? Not to step on Skipp's toes, but I think what he was getting at is that spectrum analyzers have a limited dynamic range, probably around 80 dB. So you can only see noise/spurs down as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: racom 1300 identifier manual wanted

2008-10-08 Thread wd8chl
Randy wrote: http://www.retrevo.com/s/Racom+1300?sub.x=42sub.y=15 Reposted so the link is clickable...

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense with DB4060 Duplexer

2008-10-08 Thread John J. Riddell
Scott, a product that I have used on all kinds of connections including RF is Stabilant 22. It is made in Richmond Hill Ontario and does a wonderful job of making a good connection between metal surfaces. It is quite expensive, $35.00 for a small bottle but you only need a drop of it to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread n4tua
Jeff, I have been watching this thread and must say your explanation here is very well done. Thank you from the rest of us watching. Collin -Original Message- From: Jeff DePolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 1:00 pm Subject: RE:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
It's an analog supply built into the repeater. Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DCFluX Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:55 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out!

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
I thought that's what Skipp was saying but I wasn't sure. I think (without looking) the -8920 is good for 80dB. Gonna redo the duplex test with a different iso-tee, just on the off chance that something is amiss there. Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense with DB4060 Duplexer

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Not so much one cavity more than the other... but on the TX side more than the other. Gonna try to play tonight. 73, Mike WM4B From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:23 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread dallasreact112
Take a look here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-4060-4062-repair.pdf 73 Bernie K5BP --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ralph Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we are on the subject of the DB4060/62, I've got a couple of dead cans with a bad tuning cap. Does anyone

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Paul, I got the knobs off two of them and got them totally pulled apart. Both of them have a lot of lubricant on the inner tubes. looks like somebody may have lubed the threads with 3-in-1 oil or something and it ran inside. The inside of the outer tube on one of them has some white 'stuff'

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Paul N1BUG
Mike, Thanks for this information. I will make a note of this. The DB4060 and 4062 duplexers I've seen had identical loops (all strap) throughout. Apparently some were different for whatever reason. Here's another interesting bit... mine all had 004 penciled on them but they were built like

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Paul, I just noticed that what I wrote here was backwards... the 004s had the strap all the way around and the 005s had the wire extension. If I figure out what goes where, I'll let you know. Did you have trouble with the top of the inner loop catching on the fingerstock and tweaking it a bit?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Forgot to mention... yes, the knobs were soldered on. I'm amazed they take that much heat without damage. I'm glad you figured that part out... it had me stumped. I'll report back with progress when I get them done. 73, Mike WM4B -Original Message- From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Desense has me pulling my hair out! (Was DB4060 Duplexer Cables

2008-10-08 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
These babies are looking pretty rough, Paul (et al). After one pass with the synthetic steel wool and a wipe with isopropyl alcohol, I can see that the copper plating near the open end of the outer tubes is nearly gone on two of the cans. Have not done the other two yet, but they seem to be in

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Inquiry for vendor

2008-10-08 Thread Randy
---http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Greensborostate=NCaddress=%5B400- 499%5D+Scott+Avezipcode=27403country=USlatitude=36.06995longitude=- 79.83005geocode=STREET . . In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Captainlance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone recently heard of or had contact with the

[Repeater-Builder] Mitreks

2008-10-08 Thread Randy
How does one tell the differance between a High Low power and VHF or UHF Mitrek? Thankyou

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks

2008-10-08 Thread Eric Lemmon
Randy, A low-power Mitrek chassis has fins that are about 1/2 deep, while the high-power units have fins that are about 1-1/2 deep. A VHF high-band radio (150-174 MHz) will have a 3 as the third character in the model number, as in T43JJA6900DK. A UHF radio will have a 4 in the same location.

[Repeater-Builder] Linear uhf amp

2008-10-08 Thread Kerincom
Hi guys .Would anyone know where I can get a 100 watt uhf commercial amp 450-500mhz in Australia or us Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, 361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715 Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932 www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au