Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 4, 2010, at 2:30 PM, John wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr n...@... wrote: I like D-STAR as a not-very-well-designed first try and use it... but it's seriously technologically flawed. Some of that can be fixed... other things like the header

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-05 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 4, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Dennis wrote: I was not aware that Icom sells a NXDN repeater. I thought that was a Kenwood product. Dennis It's been a joint project of both companies since the beginning, but I doubt you'll see that in Marketing material from either one without digging a bit.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Syntor X9000 Programming

2010-04-05 Thread Adam T. Cately
At 03:42 PM 4/4/10 -, you wrote: ... to program the Syntor X9000, you will need a Motorola RIB Box (small box with some interface circuitry that will convert your PC's RS-232 port to logic levels the radio wants to see). You will also need a cable that goes from the RIB to the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-05 Thread John Szwarc
(Don't forget that Moto bought Yaesu...) And doesn't Icom own a controlling share in Kenwood? _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:05 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread John Szwarc
Okay. I've been reading with some interest the threads on D-STAR. There have been some very good points and some pretty amusing ones. P25 sounds interesting, but you will have to take note of the fact that it has not been widely accepted by the ham community. And considering that it (P25) is

[Repeater-Builder] Voters...the LDG Relay

2010-04-05 Thread Adam Feuer
All of the recent chat about voters and a recent trip to my site has reminded me of a question regarding the LDG. Mine has been in service for about 8 years now and just recently hearing the relay clicking has got me wondering: Has anyone had a relay failure in the LDG? If so, were you able to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread Doug Bade
John; There is indeed resistance to change. there are factions even in the D-Star Camp. Control of the network is being wrestled about in 2 separate networks that split. Be that as it may . We have the luxury of taking advantage of some really impressive reverse engineering that

[Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-05 Thread k1ike
I think it would be difficult to justify sole source on a piece of equipment that is part of a low volume market, such as amateur radio. You probably can easily justify a company like Motorola in a large volume market like Land Mobile radio, but Icom in the Amateur Radio Market share? I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread Jeff DePolo
Anyone who is currently building analog AllStar Link repeaters using a DMK URI already has the parts for a D-Star repeater .. assuming your TX and RX will handle GMSK data of your repeater.. This includes many Mastr II stations which seem to be a large portion of the amateur repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread MCH
There are P25 repeaters on the air. Granted, not as many as D-STAR (strictly talking about ham systems), but I know of nobody giving away P25 repeaters. Also, I bet there are more P25 receivers owned by hams than D-STAR since there are several scanners that decode P25, and only a few that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread Nate Duehr
On 4/5/2010 5:10 AM, John Szwarc wrote: Okay. I've been reading with some interest the threads on D-STAR. There have been some very good points and some pretty amusing ones. P25 sounds interesting, but you will have to take note of the fact that it has not been widely accepted by the ham

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Voters...the LDG Relay

2010-04-05 Thread skipp025
Re: Voters...the LDG Relay Adam Feuer feu...@... wrote: All of the recent chat about voters and a recent trip to my site has reminded me of a question regarding the LDG. Mine has been in service for about 8 years now and just recently hearing the relay clicking has got me wondering:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread Paul Plack
Old-fashioned? If you take being fashionable out of the argument, analog NBFM has some advantages which may not be appreciated until they're gone, particularly in emergency ops. Interoperability has been covered already, but there are some more subtle advantages to analog. If you have a

[Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Bandpass Filter

2010-04-05 Thread ka9qjg
Hello hope Everyone had a Nice Easter I am Setting up a Motorola Micor Mobile on 144.315 and Will be using a Advanced Research Preamp and thought it would be a Good idea to put a Band pass on it , I came across this But can it be tuned down to 144.315 Without losing anything And dos

[Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 PL during COR with TRN5073A

2010-04-05 Thread Eric
Hello, Is there a way to configure the TRN5073A PL board to TX PL only during COR ? Actually, PL is always ON, even during the dropout delay. I don't have the TRN5073A schematic, only for the TRN5075A. Q201, Q202 and some resistors/diode are missing on my board. Guess I need them to control

[Repeater-Builder] MASTR II Low-Band Pre-Amp Question

2010-04-05 Thread Richard W. Solomon
The Low-Band MASTR II I am putting on 10 does not have the Pre-Amp installed on the Receiver. What are your opinions on adding one ? Is it worthwhile ? 73, Dick, W1KSZ

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II Low-Band Pre-Amp Question

2010-04-05 Thread Chuck Kelsey
From anything I've read, it's a wasted effort due to the noise floor. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Richard W. Solomon w1...@earthlink.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 3:06 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MASTR II Low-Band Pre-Amp Question

[Repeater-Builder] Max drive power for Micor PA.

2010-04-05 Thread Bruno Bouliane
I need to know the drive power for a Micor TLD1692A VHF PA. Any help appreciated.       Bruno VE2VK/KD1XG. __ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Max drive power for Micor PA.

2010-04-05 Thread wd8chl
On 4/5/2010 4:14 PM, Bruno Bouliane wrote: I need to know the drive power for a Micor TLD1692A VHF PA. Any help appreciated. Bruno VE2VK/KD1XG. Approx 400-750 mW.

[Repeater-Builder] Seeking manual or user guide for Plectron model 90 FM Signal Generator

2010-04-05 Thread bryan.spacek
Hi folks, Bryan here. I usually hang out at the antiqueradios forum, and a fellow there suggested that I seek info here regarding this rare FM signal generator, after posting for info there with zero results. I have no idea of the manufacture date, or whether it was a piece of

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 PL during COR with TRN5073A

2010-04-05 Thread skipp025
Eric ve2...@... wrote: Hello, Is there a way to configure the TRN5073A PL board to TX PL only during COR ? Actually, PL is always ON, even during the dropout delay. Probably, but it would be an involved mod with some serious thinking required to get it done. I did it once using an

[Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread John
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote: Threaded... John wrote: Hmmm... I'm sitting here with my NQMHS Node Adapter (GMSK Modem) and watching the binary stream, in both Hex and Char, off of my IC-91AD, while transmitting for a few seconds. It seems the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] For Sale: GE Mstr II UHF Repeaters Complete

2010-04-05 Thread Paul Gilbert
Are these full blown MII's or converted mobiles? If they are repeater stations (not mobiles), how much and where are you? Paul,ZW Texas On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:48 PM, ab6li johnever...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hello to the group. I have two UHF Mstr II repeaters for sale. Both have the 100

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread Doug Bade
Both GMSK modem and DMK URI provide a shaped and limited waveform that can be directly FM'ed at what is easily set to 1.8khz +/- typical... ( this is what the Icom stations use) the waveform is cleaner out of my station than the Icom D-Star radio keying it and filtering is better out of

[Repeater-Builder] Before I put this on Ebay

2010-04-05 Thread Ken Arck
I'm cleaning out a bunch of stuff from storage. So what's a 110 watt UHF CXB worth to you? Tuned on ham band (441.875) and pigtail for external controller. Complete with full tuning kit (tools, probes, etc), TLN2419 Metering Panel, full manuals, internal duplexer. Only funkiness is the top

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-05 Thread no6b
At 4/5/2010 06:24, you wrote: I think it would be difficult to justify sole source on a piece of equipment that is part of a low volume market, such as amateur radio. Actually, it would be quite easy. Icom is the only source of D-Star equipment, so you only have to state that the unique

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread vr2 xvd
hi all, May I ask the follow question. For a single site Voice communication digital repeater operation in identical conditions, which format /system type will work better in multi path signal ,with lager coverage area. FDMA,TDMA (D-Star ,Mototrbo,P25,Nexedge,Idas) ? TNX 73s de VR2XVD/W.L.Ho

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Bandpass Filter

2010-04-05 Thread no6b
At 4/5/2010 11:38, you wrote: Hello hope Everyone had a Nice Easter I am Setting up a Motorola Micor Mobile on 144.315 and Will be using a Advanced Research Preamp and thought it would be a Good idea to put a Band pass on it , I came across this But can it be tuned down to 144.315

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola P210?

2010-04-05 Thread hitekgearhead
I was looking for info on this radio. From what I have gathered so far, it appears to be from the Genesis line but I am not sure. I know what the P200 is, and that is definitely part of the Genesis line, but what is the P210? I can't seem to find much info on the net regarding it. Can anyone

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2 Meter Bandpass Filter

2010-04-05 Thread ka9qjg
So the answer is YES the Decibel VHF 6 Repeater cavity filter 148-174 DB4001-1 Will tune right to 144.315 and not lose the Specs it would Have at 148 ? And dos the Length of the Coax going to the Micor /Mobile have to be cut at a Certain Length Thanks Don KA9QJG From:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Seeking manual or user guide for Plectron model 90 FM Signal Generator

2010-04-05 Thread 1137
Bryan, you might check with Bob Wallace of WallaceRadio. He is one of the few remaining Plectron experts and historians in the field. Bob is a great guy, besides for his busines of repairing and restoring Plectron receivers, he is a wealth of information on most everything Plectron. His

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR 2000 to 220 conversion?

2010-04-05 Thread kc7stw
If it can be done with a VHF MSR I would like to know, since I have two of them sitting around doing nothing. ;) --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, WA2RJP jlang...@... wrote: Has anyone attempted or succeeded in converting a VHF MSR2000 to 220? I'd rather not reinvent the wheel if

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star (Protocol and Repeaters)

2010-04-05 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 5, 2010, at 7:01 PM, vr2 xvd wrote: hi all, May I ask the follow question. For a single site Voice communication digital repeater operation in identical conditions, which format /system type will work better in multi path signal ,with lager coverage area. FDMA,TDMA (D-Star

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR 2000 to 220 conversion?

2010-04-05 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
I saw one several years ago - the guy started with a MSR base station that had been toasted after the antenna was struck by lightning (i.e. toasted the PA deck and the receiver front end transistor). He converted the receiver and exciter to 220, and I don't have the conversion information (if I