[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread hfarrenkopf
Here is how you do it.. Take a T connector and put it on one of the pass loops. Leave the other loop unterminated. Adjust the loop position so that the notch depth is about 9dB for 0.9dB IL through if I remember correctly - this is done like measuring a notch cavity with the spectrum

[Repeater-Builder] Battery Backup (adding and external to your Power Supply

2010-04-21 Thread skipp025
For those of you wanting to add a Battery Back up to your repeater or base-station power supply... Samlex makes an external battery backup box with the model number of BBM-12100. The online available User Manual for the box contains a lot of good information and a circuit diagram. So if

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread Larry Horlick
So you actually come up with an RL value and equate to an IL value? lh On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:08 AM, hfarrenkopf hfarrenk...@yahoo.ca wrote: Here is how you do it.. Take a T connector and put it on one of the pass loops. Leave the other loop unterminated. Adjust the loop position so

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
Jeff, Speaking of the RLB, did you ever get one of the newer RLB's from Amtronix? I still interested in someone measuring the parameters of that unit against one of the more expensive RLB's, such as the Eagle brand. If the measurements are fairly close to each other, then the Amtronix RLB

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread Jeff DePolo
Yep, I did get one. I did some preliminary testing and it compares favorably to the Eagle in most regards. Rick is contemplating making some additional refinements, some of which are based on my testing, so I'm waiting to hear back from him. If he decides to make changes, I'll wait until he

[Repeater-Builder] Micor PA TLB1414C-2

2010-04-21 Thread La Rue Communications
Anyone know what Frequency this handles? I think its a UHF but not sure what split. Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor PA TLB1414C-2

2010-04-21 Thread rfburnz
according to a post by Eric Lemmon http://www.mail-archive.com/repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com/msg02135.html The TLB1414C2 is a 100 watt continuous duty power amplifier for 42-50 MHz. Take a look at the board and you can quickly confirm whether or not it is a UHF PA. Contact me offline if

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread rfburnz
1 in at 144 MHz is approx a 5% change and will affect slightly the RL esp if the source impedance isn't 50 Ohms J0. The overall electrical length technically is that of the coax at its VF plus the length of the loop (in air). Adding an elbow can make a difference at this freq. W6 MTF --- In

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor PA TLB1414C-2

2010-04-21 Thread MCH
TLB would be Low Band. Joe M. La Rue Communications wrote: Anyone know what Frequency this handles? I think its a UHF but not sure what split. Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202

[Repeater-Builder] high-power VHF MSF-5000

2010-04-21 Thread James Adkins
Anyone know where a high power MSF-5000 VHF station can be found? I was thinking the model *may* be: C83CXB7106BT, but there could be some other odd ball models out there, like version A's or Rack mouunts, or different control than tone control. Thanks, -- James Adkins, KB0NHX

[Repeater-Builder] Micor PA TLB1414C-2

2010-04-21 Thread Tim Ahrens
Hi John, If you don't have a need for it, drop me a line. Just putting up a 6 meter repeater have the rest of the guts. Thanks, Tim W5FN

[Repeater-Builder] OT:Antenna height restrictions and PRB-1

2010-04-21 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
Hi group, First off, hopefully this post is not going to conflict with Kevin's restrictions on the FCC rules regs on this forum. I'm looking for some information from others, that in the past, have had situations with local / county / state governments concerning antenna height and what

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT:Antenna height restrictions and PRB-1

2010-04-21 Thread Paul Plack
Don, The ARRL would be a good place to start on this, but it probably will have nothing to do with the FCC. PRB-1 requires reasonable accommodation by locals. It doesn't give hams carte blanche. If the family didn't dot the i's and cross the T's with the locals, which in many cases requires

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT:Antenna height restrictions and PRB-1

2010-04-21 Thread DCFluX
Around here the County doesn't care about towers, as long as they are 40' and under and will fall on your property.

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 lowband on 6?

2010-04-21 Thread cruizzer77
Hi Does anyone know of a lowband R100 that has successfully been converted to 6m? 73 Martin

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 lowband on 6?

2010-04-21 Thread Bill Smith
I was a Radius dealer for quite a few years and only saw VHF and UHF R100 versions. Bill KB1MGH From: cruizzer77 atlant...@gmx.ch To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 5:50:45 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 lowband on 6?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT:Antenna height restrictions and PRB-1

2010-04-21 Thread Charles Mills
Well...it probably would be considered off topic but I'd respectfully request Kevin maybe let this continue briefly considering we're dealing with a 10 year old handicapped child who's probably being a little more sensible and mature than his adult neighbors. I'd probably go to the ham-law

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 lowband on 6?

2010-04-21 Thread Captainlance
Moto. never made a low band version. We were moto. dealers for many years, only VHF and UHF, DPL or PL... - Original Message - From: Bill Smith To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola R100 lowband on

[Repeater-Builder] Re: OT:Antenna height restrictions and PRB-1

2010-04-21 Thread wb6dgn
Pretty much the same as in my area (NE Ohio). Limit of 35 feet, building permit ($40.00) and sketch by owner/builder of proposed installation (professional engineering data not required). Over 35 feet can be accommodated by a request for variance. That starts to get a bit more costly,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT:Antenna height restrictions and PRB-1

2010-04-21 Thread Charles Mills
The article was written very poorly and the facts skewed to bully a handicapped child. “They started off with just a little antenna which was fine then the monstrosity came about the big tower and that's the one we were really worried about. We do see it rocking back and forth,” Eric Scott said.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread hfarrenkopf
No, using a T connector on the loop, you have a notch cavity although it is a non symmetrical notch - doesn't matter. You adjust the loop for a notch depth of say 9dB using the T one loop at a time and that balances the impedances of the loops in and out so that they are the same. The notch

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT:Antenna height restrictions and PRB-1

2010-04-21 Thread Paul Plack
Chuck, I actually got just the opposite intent. The mention of his handicap and community contribution through amateur radio paint a clear, sympathetic position. The reporter's job is to present both sides of the story. Accurately reporting the position of an opposing neighbor is required for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT:Antenna height restrictions and PRB-1

2010-04-21 Thread Charles Mills
Fair enough. I guess we can all interpret things different ways. Maybe I'm the one without a Pulitzer in my future. :-D Thanks for pointing out my skewed judgment considering the news background. Chuck On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Paul Plack pl...@xmission.com wrote: Chuck, I

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread hfarrenkopf
Just looked up the settings in my files. 9dB notch at 160MHz produces 1.4dB. 11 to 11.5 will produce your desired 0.9dB Insertion Loss. 14 to 15 dB produces the 0.40dB IL. The cable adds 0.2dB. The settings of 2 cans from Sinclair are typically 1.0, 2.0 or 3.0dB. Larry, are you still up in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread Larry Horlick
OK. That makes sense. How did you arrive at 9dB for .9 IL? And about the cable lengths between the pass cavites, I have found 3 different documents from Sinclair that gives me 3 different lengths for the same frequency. One document shows only 2 different cable lengths for the entire VHF band. If

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread hfarrenkopf
Are they for top mounted loops or side mounted. The side mounted loops had different loop lengths for the different insertion losses and hence the cable lengths were different. Unless the top loops were extra large for making a wider pass window, they should be very close in lengths (within

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread Larry Horlick
Harold, I used 2 cans in my initial post for simplicity. What I'm working on is a 2037, 3 pass and one notch and I need 3 dB, so 1 dB per can. I'm not moving them very far from the original setup, but I want to verify the IL. Is there a published chart for these settings? Indeed, still in VY0

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread Larry Horlick
These cans are recent vintage and have top mounted loops. On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:24 PM, hfarrenkopf hfarrenk...@yahoo.ca wrote: Are they for top mounted loops or side mounted. The side mounted loops had different loop lengths for the different insertion losses and hence the cable

[Repeater-Builder] TKR-850 Series I Interface Question

2010-04-21 Thread midcom.audio
I'm attempting to update an existing repeater system that currently uses a Hall voter in tandem with a ComSpec TP-38 CTCSS repeater tone panel. The replacement RF deck is a Kenwood TKR-850 Series I. The previous RF deck was a KSG-4500, operating in a plain, dumb, duplexed TX / RX mode with no

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius P50

2010-04-21 Thread Brian Alesio
Several weeks ago it seemed that someone had an interest in acquiring UHF Motorola P50 radio sets. If anyone is interested, email me directly I have a fair assortment compact / standard and keypad equipped p50+ complete units, boards, chargers and I would love to clear away some space. BRIAN

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Radius P50

2010-04-21 Thread Eric Lemmon
Brian, Please confirm, are these P50+ or SP50+ radios? They are not the same. A list of the complete model numbers would be very helpful to those having interest in your radios. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Sinclair C-Series cable lengths

2010-04-21 Thread hfarrenkopf
I don't know if it was published.. Set your cans for 0.9dB IL each and your end result will be 3.2dB. The notch cavity should be set to maximum depth unless you have a very close frequency down the chain (0.5MHz away).The notch is tuned to the pass frequency. The 3 pass cans will produce 3

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-850 Series I Interface Question

2010-04-21 Thread Ken Arck
At 05:41 PM 4/21/2010, midcom.audio wrote: I'm attempting to update an existing repeater system that currently uses a Hall voter in tandem with a ComSpec TP-38 CTCSS repeater tone panel. The replacement RF deck is a Kenwood TKR-850 Series I. The previous RF deck was a KSG-4500, operating in a