[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR 2000 repeater help

2010-05-06 Thread iuzpetnrdx2000
I sent you some notes on that to you Email address. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ac2cs ac...@... wrote: OK, I've got a MSR2000 base station but according to the model number the board is the duplex board and it seems to have all the needed parts to be a repeater, i cannot figure

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers on one antenna

2010-05-06 Thread Kris Kirby
On Wed, 5 May 2010, wd5etd wrote: Sorry for the dumb question but, I have a group trying to add a link at one site for 5 repeaters. They are not trunked. What is the cheapest way for them to share 1 antenna? They have a very good DB antenna but, I did not think it necessary for them to

[Repeater-Builder] RE: Multiple receivers on One antenna

2010-05-06 Thread Dave Clausen
Rick... VHF, UHF, 800-900?? I may have most of what you would need. Dave NN4TT

[Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread James
Hi Guys, We have been experimenting with building CTCSS Units using the 567 Tone Chip and good components, i.e. Caps, multi turn pots etc. The stability is not good in my opinion. We will set it to 107.2 and the next time you check it is off enough to where it won't decode until it is re-tuned

RE: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread Stanley Stanukinos
I must be missing something, there are several MFG of encoders/decoders still around. You are correct on the stability issue. You will find it much less frustrating to just buy off the shelf or get the one for your radio than trying to build one that is stable. Oh there is the cost of the new

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread wd8chl
On 5/6/2010 10:35 AM, James wrote: Hi Guys, We have been experimenting with building CTCSS Units using the 567 Tone Chip and good components, i.e. Caps, multi turn pots etc. The stability is not good in my opinion. We will set it to 107.2 and the next time you check it is off enough to where

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread va2ir
Many many years ago when I was finishing college electronics, my final year project was a repeater controller. The danged thing worked really well, I used 567s for the DTMF decoding, but they really drifted around with temperature. Took about an hour to stabilize, and then still needed to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread James Cicirello
Hi Ted and Stan, It all started with new hams and old 2-meter rigs w/o PL. I bought a couple of TD-1 Ramsey Kits to get the Hams into the local repeater. The kits were not stable so we started to experiment, thinking it would be nice to improve on the CTCSS Tone filter in the TS-32 which we have

RE: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread Ken Arck
At 07:55 AM 5/6/2010, Stanley Stanukinos wrote: I must be missing something, there are several MFG of encoders/decoders still around. You are correct on the stability issue. You will find it much less frustrating to just buy off the shelf or get the one for your radio than trying to build one

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread DCFluX
Anyone got any FX-805J or MX-805J in the PDIP package? I built a 1000 Hz decoder once based on the 567, it would swing between 950-1070 depending on the mood it was in. The ATV guys use these to create a video squelch, looks at the frequency of the horizontal sync which is 15,374 Hz. Work fairly

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Radius CP100

2010-05-06 Thread La Rue Communications
To provide closure to this topic... Got your email Eric and the PDF attachment. Thank you Sir! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Waste of time and effort. Very old technology that never worked well. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: James ka2...@gmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:35 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder Hi Guys, We have been

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread Tim Ahrens
Remember the Heathkit touchtone microphone for the 2036? Didn't it use 555s? Sorry for the rocky walk down memory lane! Tim

[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR 2000 repeater help

2010-05-06 Thread kc7stw
From the manual. Jumpers on back-plane are. repeater non-wireline control. JU1-IN JU2-OUT JU3-OUT JU4-IN JU5-IN JU6-OUT JU7-OUT JU8-OUT JU9-IN for COS and DPL. OUT for PL JU10-OUT JU11-OUT JU12-OUT JU13, AND JU14 OUT, NONE battery backup. JU13-OUT and JU14-IN for battery backup tone. Hope this

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 repeater help

2010-05-06 Thread George Henry
http://www.repeater-builder.com/msr2000/msr2000-index.html Near the bottom of the page you will find a link to a table of jumper settings that I compiled. George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 From: ac2cs ac...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 4:50:43 PM Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread kevin valentino
Grab an old Standard HX300 or C734 etc. off ebay for practically nothing(if you find one) the enc/dec board is a plug in w/wire leads, very small, dip select, and rock solid. I have one kickin around with the schematic if your interested. I have adapted these to many old crap radios and they

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Multiple receivers on one antenna

2010-05-06 Thread wd8chl
On 5/5/2010 4:34 PM, wd5etd wrote: Sorry for the dumb question but, I have a group trying to add a link at one site for 5 repeaters. They are not trunked. What is the cheapest way for them to share 1 antenna? They have a very good DB antenna but, I did not think it necessary for them to buy

[Repeater-Builder] Re: CTCSS Encoder - Decoder Using the NE 567 Chip

2010-05-06 Thread skipp025
The classic NE-567 chip makes a fine CTCSS decoder with one major consideration. In a real world circuit the detection band-width is kind of wide, meaning you can and might also experience valid decode logic on the two tones each side of Frequency-Center. If you construct a well thought out

RE: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread no6b
At 5/6/2010 08:22, you wrote: At 07:55 AM 5/6/2010, Stanley Stanukinos wrote: I must be missing something, there are several MFG of encoders/decoders still around. You are correct on the stability issue. You will find it much less frustrating to just buy off the shelf or get the one for

[Repeater-Builder] Re: CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread skipp025
I've never seen anyone have real success with those chips in that application. http://www.hamtronics.com/pdf/TD-3.pdf Frankly, I think the internal components in the IC do not have the tolerance and stability to handle it, so no amount of high-tolerance components on the outside

Re: [Repeater-Builder] CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread Ralph Mowery
I would look for something else.  About 30 years ago I used some for a DTMF decoder for an autopatch on a repeater.  They were stable enough for that.  There was a problem with the input amplitude to them.  Seems that very small changes in the input voltage of the tone comming to them would

[Repeater-Builder] Re: CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread skipp025
Waste of time and effort. Very old technology that never worked well. I guess I'll have to pull the 567 ctcss decoder I built way back when... even though it still works just fine... I copied a Yaesu 567 CTCSS Encoder/Decoder circuit and it works well to this day. Still have the diagram

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Heathkit DTMF Encoder Mic 555 chip

2010-05-06 Thread skipp025
Remember the Heathkit touchtone microphone for the 2036? Didn't it use 555s? A pair of them in a rather ingenious resistor keypad matrix circuit. Worked well as long as the resistor values didn't change with age (IE don't use carbon resistors). Sorry for the rocky walk down memory lane!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Skipp, I suspect that you were the exception rather than the rule, then. To me there are better ways to do it than a 567. I remember playing with various 567 circuits back in the 70's. Never could get reliable performance. Used them for paging frequencies. Gave up and started using commercial

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread no6b
At 5/6/2010 19:09, you wrote: Skipp, I suspect that you were the exception rather than the rule, then. To me there are better ways to do it than a 567. I remember playing with various 567 circuits back in the 70's. Never could get reliable performance. Used them for paging frequencies. Gave up

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[Repeater-Builder] Re: CTCSS Encoder/Decoder

2010-05-06 Thread Al Wolfe
Ah, yes, the (in)famous 567. It could be quite good at what it was designed to do. The datasheets and application documentation were actually very helpful. Being TTL compatible they stressed the power supply with current spikes so a bunch of caps were needed on the supply buss near the chip.