Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-27 Thread wd8chl
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters? ? Tim, My plan at this point is to convert them to full duplex, so I can use the second Mitrek to prepare a complete, plug-in, standby set of RF decks. The mods look very straightforward, but I was wondering

[Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Paul Plack
After a few years on the sidelines, it looks as if I'm going to be jumping back into repeater ownership. I have a few nice pieces left from my last adventure, including a TX/RX duplexer and a loaded S-COM 7K, but I'm pondering choices in RF decks. This will be a local UHF machine designated as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Tony KT9AC
Good question Paul. Remember the Mitrek RF decks are almost the same used in the MSR2000 repeater, and with their tuned helical front end make great receivers. For the transmitter however, I would not run it on its own. Also reducing the power output below 50-66% of rating might cause

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Cort Buffington
I've used a lot of Mitreks as repeaters and loved them, but you're right about the PA -- if you don't like fans, it's going to get too hot. Consider getting the exciter output after the helical filters and use a different PA. I have a couple of Mitreks stashed in a corner somewhere just in case

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Jack Taylor
shielding and filtering techniques to get the rx desense down to a reasonable level. 73 de Jack - N7OO - Original Message - From: Tony KT9AC To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread w7trh
: Jack Taylor j...@n7oo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:27:44 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?   I converted a UHF Mitrek for full duplex packet operation once.  Don't recommend it because

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Paul Plack
, even after hours key-down. Guys, I appreciate all the input. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: w7...@comcast.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters? Isn't

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Jeff DePolo
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:49 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters? ? Tim, My plan at this point is to convert them to full duplex, so I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:49 AM 4/26/2010, Paul Plack wrote: Your heatsink approach, however, is exactly what I was talking about. I have several very large heatsinks originally designed for use with big SCR switching circuits which look to be more than generous for a 30w PA at 100% duty cycle. Remember

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Paul Plack wrote: Your heatsink approach, however, is exactly what I was talking about. I have several very large heatsinks originally designed for use with big SCR switching circuits which look to be more than generous for a 30w PA at 100% duty cycle. My first

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread w7trh
, April 26, 2010 10:49:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?    Tim, My plan at this point is to convert them to full duplex, so I can use the second Mitrek to prepare a complete, plug-in, standby set of RF decks. The mods look very

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Paul Plack
become, it mike just make sense to use two radios, and source more spares. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Ken Arck To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters? At 10:49 AM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Paul Plack
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters? On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Paul Plack wrote: Remember, the 100W Mitrek had a heatsink that was rated for 35W and used the duty cycle to keep things cool. If you do a case swap from

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Paul Plack
- Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters? Because of the internal desense issue, I'd build them the same, but operate the two radios separately

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Ken Arck
At 11:47 AM 4/26/2010, Paul Plack wrote: Ken, Correct, of course, but I'm assuming that in a 30w PA, smaller components not somehow directly sunk to the main chassis heatsink will reach their max operating temps in a very few seconds of key-down, and therefore have to be spec'd the same

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Jeff DePolo
I appreciate the thoughts. Anytime I've looked at a scheme which allows simply swapping the TX and RX to get back on the air, I arrive at the same conclusions... (1) If I took a lightning hit at the site, I'd want my spares to have been stored somewhere else. (2) Once I swap the TX and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Paul Plack
I'd need in my application. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Ken Arck To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters? At 11:47 AM 4/26/2010, Paul Plack wrote: Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Paul Plack wrote: I am completely unfamiliar with the Syntor, cost, availability, etc., but I'm also early in the process of nosing around locally. I'm willing to look at any plentiful, high-quality radios for the conversion. 73, Paul, AE4KR Syntor -- not Syntor X

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread TGundo 2003
Plack pl...@xmission.com wrote: From: Paul Plack pl...@xmission.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 3:07 PM Ken,   Thanks, appreciate the link. This document adds a few

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters?

2010-04-26 Thread Paul Plack
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitreks as UHF Repeaters? I ran a Duplexed 50W UHF mitrek @30W with a Fan on the heat sink for 5 years without a problem. I Upgraded that site to a full blown UHF Micor Repeater that is 75W