Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
It IS INDEED legal per the FCC. -- Original Message -- Received: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:37:01 AM CST From: Dave VanHorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yup, a sheet full of dots and dashes. Then she went back and translated each Morse character to it's appropriate letter, number, or punctuation.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave VanHorn Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 8:36 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. Yup, a sheet full of dots and dashes. Then she went

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-20 Thread Dave VanHorn
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been said that you aren't a REAL HAM until you have passed a 20 WPM morse code test have the license to prove it. A lot of things have been said. Some of them are true. Yahoo! Groups Links * To

Re: OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-19 Thread Mark A. Holman
these darn M/A Panthers to work on 440 so I can make a mobile repeater ! 73's Steve N4YZA K - Original Message - From: "mch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to c

RE: OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-18 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Rice Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:26 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. I guess I will have to say something

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-18 Thread Dave VanHorn
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Perryman K5JMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to side with Joe on this one. Having spent time as an Army communicator in some of the worst $#*!-holes on earth with lives on the line... it is the content of the message that has to be

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Dave VanHorn
Yup, a sheet full of dots and dashes. Then she went back and translated each Morse character to it's appropriate letter, number, or punctuation. As far as I'm aware that's legal per the FCC. It's not up to the VE groups to arbitrarily tighten the requirements or change the testing

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread dalite01
: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. Yup, a sheet full of dots and dashes. Then she went back and translated each Morse character to it's appropriate letter, number, or punctuation. As far as I'm aware that's legal per the FCC. It's not up to the VE groups to arbitrarily

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Bob M.
I do believe it IS an area that a local VE group can control, as long as they state that before the test begins, which was not done in the particular cases I was at. VEs can over-rule an answer sheet on a written test, and they can interpret some other things as well. If a potential test taker

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Perryman
] Behalf Of Bob M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:30 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. I do believe it IS an area that a local VE group can control, as long as they state that before the test begins, which was not done

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Bob M.
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:30 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. I do believe it IS an area that a local VE group can control, as long as they state

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Coy Hilton
8:36 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. Yup, a sheet full of dots and dashes. Then she went back and translated each Morse character to it's appropriate letter, number, or punctuation. As far as I'm aware that's legal

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Coy Hilton
Right you are Bob! We, at our VE sessions, state up front that you are not allowed to copy dots and dashes and then go back and decode them. YES you/We can dis-allow this kind of thing and any VE worth his or her weight will do it. Copying dots and dashes only prove that you can hear. ---

[Repeater-Builder] RE Failure to Communicate

2006-02-17 Thread Coy Hilton
Last week end I attended Hamcation in Orlando. We had a discussion about ARRLs proposed NEW Entry level license. They said that they wanted more questions on operationa and procedures. My response was that technician ticket was the perfect entry level license..We had just had a ten year old

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread hwingate
Perhaps we need a special license class for the 'really advanced' amateurs. Click here: (author unknown) http://webpages.charter.net/k4hal/license.htm It's sad they believe that Techs are going to be the downfall of ham radio. They'll probably never realize that it's attitudes like their's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Bryan Fields
On Friday 17 February 2006 02:22 pm, hwingate wrote: Perhaps we need a special license class for the 'really advanced' amateurs. Click here: (author unknown) Well we have this now, it's called a GROL/w radar. It's a 150 question test out of a pool of like 1450 or so. Some times you just

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread radio5000
LMAO!! In a message dated 2/17/2006 2:22:50 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://webpages.charter.net/k4hal/license.htm YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread numberone5call
] Behalf Of Bob M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:30 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. I do believe it IS an area that a local VE group can control, as long as they state that before the test begins, which

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Dave VanHorn
It IS probably legal per the FCC, but do you think they'd give you all that time to decipher the dots and dashes if you went to an FCC office 30 years ago for a code test? They'd laugh you right out of your chair. The rules were different then, and they don't apply now. However, I have seen

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread mch
- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:30 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. I do believe it IS an area that a local VE

OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Stephen Rice
on 440 so I can make a mobile repeater ! 73's Steve N4YZA K - Original Message - From: mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. Actually, that's how I passed my

OT Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Dave VanHorn
My point in this was the VE team arbitrarily changing the testing standards. We had one here who wouldn't allow farnsworth. The FCC determines what the questions will be, and what is and is not legal to pass the test. NOT the VEs. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate.....

2006-02-17 Thread Mike Perryman K5JMP
. mike -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob M. Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:30 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Failure to communicate. I do