[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2-E (not 2-Z)

2005-08-18 Thread skipp025
vintageaudio2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The above is a bpbr duplexer, not a pre-selector. You No, the TPCP-1546C is a preselector, take a look: http://www.telewave.com/pdf/TWDS-2006.pdf I think you are confused with the TPRD-1546C which is indeed a duplexer. Actually what pops up is

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2-D (not 3-D)

2005-08-17 Thread vintageaudio2004
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vintageaudio2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as a first step we will be ordering the Telewave TPCP-1546C preselector, it has 6 cavities and has a pretty good looking skirt (-80db @ 4MHz down). The above is a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2-D (not 3-D)

2005-08-16 Thread skipp025
vintageaudio2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Took the weekend off, needed to get away from this stuff for a while, was starting to get dizzy with so much info coming and going all over. We understand... did the same thing here. We decided to go in steps and see if things work out, and if

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2-B or not 2-B, so 2-C

2005-08-15 Thread vintageaudio2004
Hi Skipp, Took the weekend off, needed to get away from this stuff for a while, was starting to get dizzy with so much info coming and going all over. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should not be thinking less than 8 poles, maybe even more and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2-B

2005-08-12 Thread vintageaudio2004
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had DCI make a number of repeater window filters for me. It took a bit of time on the phone with Sean to find out what they could do vs what trade offs I would allow in the specs. The end result UHF 10 pole

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2

2005-08-12 Thread vintageaudio2004
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kris Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.google.com/search?as_q=num=10hl=enbtnG=Google+Searchas_epq=as_oq=as_eq=lr=as_ft=ias_filetype=pdfas_qdr=allas_occt=anyas_dt=ias_sitesearch=motorola.comsafe=images Just add the word you want to that query and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2-B

2005-08-12 Thread Bob Dengler
At 8/12/2005 08:57 AM, you wrote: I can imagine it was a bit of a pain to make, but glad to hear is humming along nicely now. both your positive comments on DCI, and their prompt and helpfull responses actually made me want to include them in our short list of possible solution providers. You

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2-B or not 2-B, so 2-C

2005-08-12 Thread skipp025
vintageaudio2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ralph from DCI suggested either a 4-pole or an 8-pole filter. Here's a link he sent, and I must say that it looks pretty good. http://www.dci.ca/html_commercial/graph_158-4-8_wo219.htm You should not be thinking less than 8 poles, maybe even

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2

2005-08-11 Thread vintageaudio2004
Hi, Thank you very much for you very detailed explanations. They are very helpful. Bellow please find some responses to your message. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, nj902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, vintageaudio2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2-B

2005-08-11 Thread skipp025
vintageaudio2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thank you very much for you very detailed explanations. They are very helpful. Bellow please find some responses to your message. Believe it or not, some of us live for this stuff. nj902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Skipp indicated -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2

2005-08-11 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, vintageaudio2004 wrote: Thanks for the excellent explanation. It would be nice to be able to have a look at some of those /\/\ white papers.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2

2005-08-10 Thread Ellen Engle
From Decibel's description DB-228... A high-gain, broadband antenna for 138-174 MHz, the 8-dipole DB228 combines two DB224E offset-pattern antennas to provide a 9 dBd gain omni or a 12 dBd gain offset horizontal pattern. Both DB224E antennas are mounted with the ends together, and the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2

2005-08-10 Thread vintageaudio2004
Hi Skipp, Was hoping for the rest of your comments (after lunch), but in the mean time here are some responses to this first set. Thanks. Alex --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd probably Cut the repeater power output down a bit. Since you have narly

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2

2005-08-10 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, vintageaudio2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...SYSTEM DESCRIPTION ...Just as a refresher... ... a Sinclair RM201-112S1B RX Multicoupler fitted with a BP Preselector (with 1MHz pass-band, and factory tuned to 165.625), a Hi Level Bipolar preamp(Angle Linear

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2

2005-08-10 Thread vintageaudio2004
Hi Milt, Thank you very much for your comets and suggestions, they are very apreciated. So as to save group bandwidth, Kindly please see my reply to Skipp's message, as it also deals with the antennas. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/message/53034 Alex --- In

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE 2

2005-08-09 Thread skipp025
I get to stick my neck out first again... I've cut out mucho and added some comments. ... 6 Motorola MTR2000 100W repeaters, I'd probably Cut the repeater power output down a bit. Since you have narly antenna gain, I'd probably back the repeaters down to 80 watts to possibly improve the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up...

2005-08-08 Thread vintageaudio2004
Hi Skipp, Thanks for your reply. At the moment we had to return to Caracas and left the system operating with just one traffic channel, plus the control channel. The customer said that at the moment usage will be very light, and only a single user group will be active. So not much operational

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... thanks to everyone

2005-08-08 Thread vintageaudio2004
Note: apologies if this is message ends up as a duplicate posting. Just sent the original over an hour ago and it still has not shown up on the listing. == Hi Skipp, Thanks for your reply. At the moment we had to return to Caracas and left the system operating with just one

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE

2005-08-08 Thread vintageaudio2004
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The obvious first task would be to run the frequencies through one of the IMD calc programs and see what mix hits you end up with for the frequencies in use. Hi Skipp, Yes we had purchased the Intermodulation

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up...

2005-08-05 Thread Jim B.
skipp025 wrote: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for everyone on the list, the idea of higher channels on a trunked system being less used only applies to LTR systems, where everyone is assigned a 'home channel', and you only go to another channel if that's in use. Never say

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE

2005-08-04 Thread vintageaudio2004
Hi Skipp, Thank you very much for your very informative message, and you seem to be right on. I just went trough it quickly and will reread it again shortly in order to send you some specific answers. But in the mean time please allow me to send you a copy of some information about tests we have

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up... UPDATE

2005-08-04 Thread skipp025
The obvious first task would be to run the frequencies through one of the IMD calc programs and see what mix hits you end up with for the frequencies in use. vintageaudio2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bellow please find the copy of said message. So this morning I completely disconnected

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up...

2005-08-04 Thread skipp025
Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just for everyone on the list, the idea of higher channels on a trunked system being less used only applies to LTR systems, where everyone is assigned a 'home channel', and you only go to another channel if that's in use. Never say never... I've seen

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up...

2005-08-04 Thread vintageaudio2004
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, skipp025 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had some time to think about your VHF Tx/Rx trunking system problems. It appears from a distance you bought a turnkey system put together from Commercial Antenna Combiner System Packages (ie the typical Tesco

[Repeater-Builder] Re: tx combiner follow up...

2005-08-04 Thread skipp025
No problem Alex, you should normal up the system and route the output of tx 6 to another lower test antenna through/from its respective combiner bp cavity before the N-way box ( cap the unused box port). Don't forget to disable the rx system preamp. I was an FTR for big M Radio