: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
Visit with a friendly pilot and look at some of those nice publications
the
FAA puts out that shows the patterns to fly around individual airports.
A
friend showed me some of these a while
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From: Steve Grantham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
I think the old FCC Form 610 asked if you were within 4 miles of the
closest
point of a runway. I can't say
, September 28, 2004 9:05 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
Paul Finch wrote:
20 feet, seems kinda crazy to me but that's the Government for ya!
Yep. They probably went by the slide slope (or whatever the other side
, 2004 6:46 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
Visit with a friendly pilot and look at some of those nice publications the
FAA puts out that shows the patterns to fly around individual airports. A
friend showed me some
PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
Visit with a friendly pilot and look at some of those nice publications
the
FAA puts out that shows the patterns to fly around individual airports. A
friend showed me some of these a while back. With figure-8s, ovals
: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
Once, when flying out of a local airport with my instructor, he
asked me
during the take-off what I'd do if I lost my engine right then. I
lookedaround, noting a shopping center directly off the end of the
runway we were
using, and said, Go shopping
mch wrote:
If you have daytime strobes, that's the reason the paint isn't required.
You have to have the tower painted (correctly) OR use daytime strobes.
At night, you have to light it using red or night strobes. This applies
to any tower over 200' tall or close enough to an airport or heliport
Helipad = Heliport the last time I checked. In any case, I was not
trying to cite all the cases why you may need to light a tower. I was
pointing out that lighting is usually a legit alternative to painting.
If you're low and slow below 200', you had better be near an airport or
heliport or
forms are still 14 + pages to
fill out.
it seems to grow once again.
MH
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From: Steve Grantham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
It's
mch wrote:
If you're low and slow below 200', you had better be near an airport or
heliport or you're most likely in violation of FAA rules anyway. ;-
Heh heh. Very true, very true... 1000' AGL above populated areas.
But... as the joke goes...
There are those who've had engine failures,
: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 7:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
You can add if the area close to an Airport I believe 1 mile, also there
will need to be some sort of a once every 24 hr. inspection to the strobes,
and the number
Paul Finch wrote:
20 feet, seems kinda crazy to me but that's the Government for ya!
Yep. They probably went by the slide slope (or whatever the other side
of that is called - the rise slope?) and it came out to 190 feet at that
distance.
They also required that it have red lights at
If the glide slope is at a height of 190 ft at a distance of 4 miles from
the runway, I will put in a prayer for all the poor pilots relying on this
ILS system hi hi.
Yep. They probably went by the slide slope (or whatever the other side
of that is called - the rise slope?) and it came out to
Paul Finch wrote:
Ed,
Maybe a dumb question but what is the tower made out of that does not accept
paint?
Its a Rhone self supporting but is stainless. It is also guided for extra
strength. Gewts windy at the site as well as ice.
The flood lights are on only when there is night time
mch wrote:
Mr. Edgar McKinney wrote:
The painting was wavered in our case cause of the tower material could
not be painted.
At each 50' and 100' are stable reds on with flash strobes for day
use.
If you have daytime strobes, that's the reason the paint isn't required.
You have
Tony leveled wrote:
If the glide slope is at a height of 190 ft at a distance of 4 miles from
the runway, I will put in a prayer for all the poor pilots relying on this
ILS system hi hi.
Standard ILS glideslope is 3 degrees, but they vary. That angle is from
the ILS transmitter which is
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
Paul Finch wrote:
20 feet, seems kinda crazy to me but that's the Government for ya!
Yep. They probably went by the slide slope (or whatever the other side
of that is called - the rise slope
Hold on... it's the FAA who will decide what needs to be painted and/or
lighted, not the tower owner!
Once the exact coordinates on the NAD83 datum, and the height of the
tower in meters, have been determined to the accuracy required by the
FAA, a request for an Aeronautical Study is filed with
We get the idea got some info from FCC on towers just trying to absorb it
all .
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From: Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
Hold
You tell them Eric!
--- Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hold on... it's the FAA who will decide what needs
to be painted and/or
lighted, not the tower owner!
Once the exact coordinates on the NAD83 datum, and
the height of the
tower in meters, have been determined to the
accuracy
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
Hold on... it's the FAA who will decide what needs to be painted and/or
lighted, not the tower owner!
Once the exact coordinates on the NAD83 datum, and the height of the
tower in meters, have been determined to the accuracy required
Eric Lemmon wrote:
Hold on... it's the FAA who will decide what needs to be painted and/or
lighted, not the tower owner!
Once the exact coordinates on the NAD83 datum, and the height of the
tower in meters, have been determined to the accuracy required by the
FAA, a request for an
Just aply under part-17 and the faa will let you know about lighting and or
painting.
73 Russ, W3CH
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From: Q [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
-Original Message-
From: Mr. Edgar McKinney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 6:28 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
Eric Lemmon wrote:
Hold on... it's the FAA who will decide what needs to be painted
, September 28, 2004 11:06 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tower Painting and Lighting
Mr. Edgar McKinney wrote:
The painting was wavered in our case cause of the tower material could
not be painted.
At each 50' and 100' are stable reds on with flash strobes
Mr. Edgar McKinney wrote:
The painting was wavered in our case cause of the tower material could
not be painted.
At each 50' and 100' are stable reds on with flash strobes for day
use.
If you have daytime strobes, that's the reason the paint isn't required.
You have to have the tower
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