RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-12 Thread Jeff DePolo
Kelsey Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:51 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary OK, I'm familiar with those single-point grounding panel protection devices. How about a service panel protector for home use

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-09 Thread Jeff DePolo
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary OK, I should have been more specific. What would be a reasonable unit for a repeater site

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-09 Thread Chuck Kelsey
. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary Hmmm. That's a tougher one. Mostly I use the Polyphasers (PLDO-120US

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-09 Thread Eric Lemmon
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary OK, I'm familiar with those single-point grounding panel protection devices. How about a service panel protector for home use? And a service panel protector for a small (200A) 3-phase panel? I ask, rather than simply

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-09 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Thanks Eric. Chuck - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:07 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary Chuck, Square D makes a line of heavy-duty, commercial-grade

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-08 Thread AA8K73 GMail
It's an Onan 4CCK-3R/1J 1800 RPM, 10 HP, 2 cylinder, gasoline, 3.5 KW, 4 KW surge, from 1965 with 57 hours use on it. In the 2003 Northeast USA power blackout, it ran two homes, including two refrigerators and a freezer. Perhaps not a home-size unit, but the advantage is that is sips gasoline

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-08 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Jeff - Could you suggest some makes and models and maybe explain why they are superior to others? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - Good surge arrestors/TVSS's are expensive, and like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If your site has a good surge arrestor at the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-08 Thread Chuck Kelsey
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-08 Thread Jeff DePolo
: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary Jeff - Could you suggest some makes and models and maybe explain why they are superior to others? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - Good surge arrestors/TVSS's are expensive, and like most things in life

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-08 Thread Chuck Kelsey
, June 08, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary Probably the ones I've had the most luck with are the Islatrol series from Control Concepts. I think they have been bought out by Emerson or Liebert or one of the other companies that have power divisions

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-08 Thread Wayne Cornick
Of Chuck Kelsey Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 3:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary OK, I should have been more specific. What would be a reasonable unit for a repeater site that may have only a couple thousand dollars worth

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-07 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
Don't use Radio Shack. You're just asking for trouble. Buy from a quality supplier. Others on the list can give you preferred vendors. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: kq7dx To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 7:38 PM Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-07 Thread AA8K73 GMail
I added a 130 Volt MOV across the hot and neutral of an Astron 50 Amp power supply for a repeater and had an interesting effect. We lost AC power and switched over to the generator. When the load was added to the generator, the Onan's voltage sagged a bit and the throttle opened to bring the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-07 Thread Ray Brown
- Original Message - From: AA8K73 GMail aa8...@gmail.com I added a 130 Volt MOV across the hot and neutral of an Astron 50 Amp power supply for a repeater and had an interesting effect. We lost AC power and switched over to the generator. When the load was added to the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-07 Thread kevin valentino
I agree fully with NOT using Radio Shack low quality run-off manufacturer seconds. Use NTE 140V. The trick is you need to use THREE. One across the hot and neutral. one from hot to ground and one from neutral to ground. MOV's are a funny dog they do not usually short but degrade very quickly

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-07 Thread Eric Lemmon
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary I added a 130 Volt MOV across the hot and neutral of an Astron 50 Amp power supply for a repeater and had an interesting effect. We lost AC power and switched over to the generator. When the load was added to the generator, the Onan's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-07 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Harbach sells a set of three that is for the SB-220. You might look at them. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: kq7dx kq...@yahoo.com Sent: Jun 7, 2010 8:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary Hello to group, Is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-07 Thread k7pfj
I replaced two in two ASRON power supplies that got zapped with 220 and seem to be still working. I would recommend getting a good brand if you have the resource. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-07 Thread Eric Lemmon
Regarding your last question, an MOV normally will go into avalanche mode when the applied voltage exceeds its threshold value. It becomes a low shunt resistance, which should blow the input fuse in the device it is protecting. Once the voltage is removed and the MOV cools off, it usually

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-07 Thread Jeff DePolo
Hello to group, Is putting a MOV from hot to ground, neutral to ground, on the primary of the transformer of the power supply a good idea.. I have a ICE surge suppressor on in front as well but thought I would put more inside the supply for back up. I'm not that big of a fan of MOV's, but

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs for power supply primary

2010-06-07 Thread kevin valentino
There is no reason to have to put them period. Extra protection is well.. to each his own. MOV's are not the greatest, but certainly wont hurt Kevin B.S.E.E. --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com wrote: From: Jeff DePolo j...@broadsci.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] MOVs