Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Nate Duehr
On 4/1/2010 9:57 PM, George Henry wrote: I suppose I should clarify: I don't do D-STAR, either. Moral objection to their use of a proprietary codec. You're going to be a while on that soap box. CODECs are almost literally the only way to make any money in the audio streaming, video

Re: [Repeater-Builder]DVSI was: Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread wd8chl
On 4/2/2010 2:17 AM, Nate Duehr wrote: But anyway... good luck finding a commercial product that doesn't use their chipset anytime soon. The next CODEC chipset maker is going to be an also-ran forever, unless their mathematicians and algorithms are uber-brilliant. Nate WY0X One good

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Scott Zimmerman
My biggest problem with the D-Star repeaters is that they didn't make them analog compatible. Knowing as little as I do about the D-star hardware, it would seem easy enough for Icom to have done so. All they would have needed to do would have been to look at the incoming signal, see if it was

RE: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Doug Bade
I am in the process of deploying a home built 70cm Mastr III conversion to D-Star. It is quite capable of doing both with existing technology. I do not CHOOSE to do both.. but it can.. It also does analog enough to do diagnostics on it which is a bit of an improvement over Icom's digital only.. I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Doug Bade
I would be glad to elaborate about D-Star Repeater conversions as there are multiple ways to do it now and Any EDACS capable or Smartnet Capable repeater would do D-Star as both fundamentally have the parts to transmit and receive GMSK type waveforms There are several Yahoogroups that are

RE: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread David Jordan
D-STAR may not be adopted by the majority of VHF/UHF users until the end-user gear prices drop significantly. I think there will be too few users to justify the efforts of a trustee or club to migrate to D-STAR/digital. One D-STAR follower noted 12,000 units sold globally. That number of unit

[Repeater-Builder] Re: D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Bill
Doug, you have my sympathy and admiration.. for hanging in there to marry those two worlds. I follow one of the yahoo groups hoping the little module becomes more user friendly for installation into a motorola 5000 or micor. The reluctance is the module, I want it working and bullet

RE: [Repeater-Builder]D-Star conversion of existing Repeaters

2010-04-02 Thread Doug Bade
I have built both sound device/software versions of the repeater and hardware modem/software versions and both are operational however Linux support is behind Windows support on the software side. Not for the lack of trying of the authors. There are internal Linux issues at hand.. that are in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder]D-Star conversion of existing Repeaters

2010-04-02 Thread La Rue Communications
Does the Linux / XP box need to be behind a firewall in order to prevent unauthorized access to the boxes? Or are these boxes completely separate from any internet access? Im a computer expert, but not a radio expert..yet. :) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton,

Re: [Repeater-Builder]DVSI was: Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread MCH
You mean like the Motorola RF devices and chips used in many two-way radio products other than Motorola's? (including directly competing products) Joe M. wd8chl wrote: One good thing, in my book anyway, at least that's all DVSI does is vocoders. They don't make radios. They don't make

Re: [Repeater-Builder]DVSI was: Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread wd8chl
Not really, as those are more 'generic'...sorta...and don't have licensing or royalties attached. Or at least we're talking so cheap as to be inconsequential. And there's no software generally either. On 4/2/2010 12:19 PM, MCH wrote: You mean like the Motorola RF devices and chips used in

Re: [Repeater-Builder]DVSI was: Nice article on the Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread MCH
IOW, they aren't *required* to use Motorola's products. Joe M. wd8chl wrote: Not really, as those are more 'generic'...sorta...and don't have licensing or royalties attached. Or at least we're talking so cheap as to be inconsequential. And there's no software generally either. On

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Scott Zimmerman wrote: Around here (Western PA) the governments bought Icom D-Star radios for RACES. I had no objection to that since those radios can be used in analog modes with analog repeaters. Now they are wanting to get D-Star repeaters for RACES and emergency use.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, Doug Bade wrote: I would be glad to elaborate about D-Star Repeater conversions as there are multiple ways to do it now and Any EDACS capable or Smartnet Capable repeater would do D-Star as both fundamentally have the parts to transmit and receive GMSK type waveforms

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Maxtrac

2010-04-02 Thread K.Paul Boggs
Have some Micor Low Band . All on 47.xxx K.Paul Boggs ab...@earthlink.net Mountain Emergency Communications - Original Message - From: John Sehring To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: 9/23/2009 8:30:54 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maxtrac Hi All, Been looking for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread MCH
If you don't count the Icom scanning receivers. They CAN decode D-STAR. Joe M. Kris Kirby wrote: There's also a substantial base of users who like D-STAR because there isn't a scanner that can decode it.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread k7pfj
Unless you have a Aeroflex 3920 with the options you can scan DStar as well as Mototrbo and all others. Mike Mullarkey K7PFJ 6886 Sage Ave Firestone, CO 80504 303-736-9693 k7...@skybeam.com On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:24 AM, MCH wrote: If you don't count the Icom scanning receivers. They

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Maxtrac

2010-04-02 Thread kevin valentino
Want low split? Got a   Radius   D51LRA9732BK  29.7~36MHZ @60W   16pin  collecting dust, but works just fine if your interested.   --- On Fri, 4/2/10, K.Paul Boggs ab...@earthlink.net wrote: From: K.Paul Boggs ab...@earthlink.net Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Maxtrac To:

[Repeater-Builder] PRO3100

2010-04-02 Thread Leroy A. M. Baptiste
I am in the market for a couple of Motorola PRO3100 UHF 45 Watt radios, a UHF mobile duplexer, and a DTMF microphone, any ideas. Leroy. J39AI

Re: [Repeater-Builder]D-Star conversion of existing Repeaters

2010-04-02 Thread Doug Bade
I guess it depends on how you want to set it up. As a standalone repeater it needs no internet connection. if you want to use connectivity to other systems, you need and internet connection and it can or not not be behind a firewall depending on your skill and/or expertise in securing same...

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread Doug Bade
I do not know that it needs to be handled... The day we have enough D-Star repeaters and users on the air that an out of town DX signal trips mine I will be tickled to death... not complainBecause JRRL did not put an equivalent to CTCSS or DSQ in the system does not make it need repair...

[Repeater-Builder] Re: if you have a commercial license

2010-04-02 Thread Wallace Murray
A very interesting view. I never this before. The opposite. In the old days, 1960's, a young kid who started with a ham license as a young teenager, could have a great summer job in Broadcasting at 18, if you got your first phone. Again, a union shop in a major market. I have also heard

[Repeater-Builder] Re: HP E8285A Cellular Test Sets

2010-04-02 Thread Sid
I have one and am very pleased with it. It is very heavy so it is best on the bench. The analog functions are fairly straght forward, however, I still have some questions about the spectrum analyze that seems to be a great feature. Sid. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dawn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] D-Star Was: Molotora Gontor

2010-04-02 Thread no6b
At 4/2/2010 09:49, you wrote: There's also a substantial base of users who like D-STAR because there isn't a scanner that can decode it. Funny you should mention that. A pair of bootleggers using D-STAR showed up on the input to a friend's 2 meter analog repeater. After a couple of months he

[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-820 Reverse Burst Questions

2010-04-02 Thread surf_boy82
I've been using a Kenwood TKR-820 as a repeater on part of a linked UHF system for a few years now. The repeater runs flawlessly, I've never had any trouble with it. I noticed when I initially built the radio that the external PTT on the accessory connector works as it should, but that the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac

2010-04-02 Thread kd8biw
John, I have 2 Micors, both low band. I have 1 complete control head/cable assembly, and 1 very short (about 3) control cable only. One is the high split (42-50), the other is the mid split (30-42). Email me off list if you would like one or both! Steve KD8BIW kd8biw at hotmail.com ---