Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50

2010-04-10 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 10:46 AM 04/09/10, you wrote:

Sorry, bursting your bubble was truly not my intent. I suffer from 
occasional CRS :-)

Seriously though lookin for a handheld with 4 channels to do 2 
meters for a friend in a home. If you come across somethin(cheap, 
cheap, real cheap) let me know. The state is paying for his care. He 
got hit by a driver w/ no insurance and no assets to attach. He gets 
around pretty well though, no bedpans or cute nurses have to hold 
his antenna for him. :-)

In my experience, anything cheap, cheap, real
cheap ends up being fragile or of limited usability
or both.

If you can afford $70 then look at ebay item 160385922879

Yes, a 16-channel VHF MT1000 in your hands for $50
plus a battery (or you can re-cell the battery yourself).

Or 300415916872 puts one in your hands for $70 including
a battery.

The MT is much more durable than most of the HTs out
there, and no more hassle to program than any other
Moto radio.
You program the transmit frequency, transmit
PL tone/DPL code, receive frequency, receive PL
tone/DPL code all as separate fields on each of
16 channels.  Maximum versatility.

See http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/genesis/genesis-index.html

The only mod I do is that I add an AC power on/off
switch to the chargers.  The stock configuration has
no AC power switch and the internal 24v DC supply
runs 24/7.

Disclaimer: I have no relation to the sellers, or to the
particular radios.

Mike WA6ILQ  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50

2010-04-10 Thread kevin valentino
I will certainly check those out. Thanks for the Item #'s; It saves me from 
searching around.
Those prices sound very fair.
 
Ooops almost forgot, Thanks for sending me the $2 bucks you owe me for cutting 
and sending you that Uniden key.  I will put it towards a radio.
 
There's that darn CRS again!  :-)

--- On Sat, 4/10/10, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Radius P50
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 5:54 AM


  



At 10:46 AM 04/09/10, you wrote:

Sorry, bursting your bubble was truly not my intent. I suffer from 
occasional CRS :-)

Seriously though lookin for a handheld with 4 channels to do 2 
meters for a friend in a home. If you come across somethin(cheap, 
cheap, real cheap) let me know. The state is paying for his care. He 
got hit by a driver w/ no insurance and no assets to attach. He gets 
around pretty well though, no bedpans or cute nurses have to hold 
his antenna for him. :-)

In my experience, anything cheap, cheap, real
cheap ends up being fragile or of limited usability
or both.

If you can afford $70 then look at ebay item 160385922879

Yes, a 16-channel VHF MT1000 in your hands for $50
plus a battery (or you can re-cell the battery yourself).

Or 300415916872 puts one in your hands for $70 including
a battery.

The MT is much more durable than most of the HTs out
there, and no more hassle to program than any other
Moto radio.
You program the transmit frequency, transmit
PL tone/DPL code, receive frequency, receive PL
tone/DPL code all as separate fields on each of
16 channels. Maximum versatility.

See http://www.repeater -builder. com/motorola/ genesis/genesis- index.html

The only mod I do is that I add an AC power on/off
switch to the chargers. The stock configuration has
no AC power switch and the internal 24v DC supply
runs 24/7.

Disclaimer: I have no relation to the sellers, or to the
particular radios.

Mike WA6ILQ 








[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 PL during COR with TRN5073A

2010-04-10 Thread Eric
I soldered a jumper between the collector of Q6 (PL INDICATOR output switch) 
and PIN 14 (XMIT PL INHIBIT). I also removed R35 (which was a pull-up resistor)

Now the PL is ON during COR only

Eric VE2TSO

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ve3...@... wrote:

 so Eric- to clarify your mod---what exactly did you do ? 
 
 Tnx 
 
 Jerry VE3 EXT





[Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from multiple mobile radios and outputting them to one speaker?

2010-04-10 Thread Mike Lyon
Hello Folks,

I am wondering what people are doing these days with multiple two-way radios
and scanners in their vehicle and then outputting it to one speaker in the
vehicle? How are they isolating each radio?

Thanks,
Mike


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from multiple mobile radios and outputting them to one speaker?

2010-04-10 Thread Will Gwin
Personally I'd rather have each radio going out its own speaker.  It works alot 
better when the speakers are mounted in different locations in the vehicle so 
you can tell which radio it's coming from without looking at it.

Other guys I know that run multiple radios usually stick with really small 
speakers that they can stick right next to each other.  Though I suppose you 
could spend a couple bucks and try some diodes?

Will Gwin
www.N5KH.org

Mike Lyon wrote:
 
 
 Hello Folks,
 
 I am wondering what people are doing these days with multiple two-way 
 radios and scanners in their vehicle and then outputting it to one 
 speaker in the vehicle? How are they isolating each radio?
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 
 
 
 


[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 PL during COR with TRN5073A

2010-04-10 Thread ve3ext
Eric  tnx for the info, will try here on two repeaters
Jerry VE3 EXT


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from multiple ...

2010-04-10 Thread william474
I use a Motorola amplified speaker and an audio combiner circuit.   Since 
some of the newer radios don't like to have either of their speaker leads  
grounded I had to design a circuit that not only combined the audio but also  
isolated the speaker leads from ground.  
 
What I came up with was to use audio isolation transformers for each  
radio.  A shielded audio cable goes from the speaker jack on the radio to  each 
isolation transformer.  Each transformer has an 8 ohm 1 watt resistor  in 
parallel with the primary.  This provides an 8 ohm load for each  radio.  These 
transformers are also available at Radio Shack.  The  secondary of each 
transformer has one lead grounded and the other lead goes to a  resistor.  Each 
transformers secondary lead with the resistor is tied  together and feed 
the input of the Motorola amplified speaker.  This is a  simple resistive 
mixing network that isolates each radio not only from each  other but from 
ground as well.  Since this is a passive circuit there is  some loss but the 
amplified Motorola speaker more than makes up for  it. 
 
In actual use the volume level on each radio is just a little less than if  
you were using the internal speaker.  And turning up the audio about 3/4 of 
 the way produces enough audio to drive you out of the car.  The  
disadvantage is as noted that all the audio comes from the same place and it is 
 
necessary from time to time to look at the radios to see which one is  
receiving.  However if each radios volume is set at slightly different  levels 
it is 
easy to determine which one is active.
 
This has also been tried with the amplified Radio Shack speaker with almost 
 the same results.  It is pretty hard to beat the amplified Motorola  
speakers for loudness and clarity.  
 
Bill - WA0CBW
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/10/2010 8:32:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
mike.l...@gmail.com writes:



Hello Folks,

I am  wondering what people are doing these days with multiple two-way 
radios and  scanners in their vehicle and then outputting it to one speaker in 
the  vehicle? How are they isolating each radio?

Thanks,
Mike







[Repeater-Builder] Had at the hamfest

2010-04-10 Thread AdamW
Bought a Mastr Executive II unit today with the idea of making it into a UHF 
repeater.  The seller indicated it was a 70 watt model, which would have been 
perfect.  Once I got it home and opened it up, started looking at board part 
numbers and the Combination Number, it turns out I have one of the vehicular 
repeaters with a 300mw RF deck!  ARGH!

So, can I convert the RF deck to a higher wattage by adding the missing board 
in the PA (and where can I get one, and what would it cost?), or simply 
replacing the whole RF deck with one for UHF and higher power (same questions 
on this solution).  Lastly, I could sell the radio to someone on here who might 
be able to build something out of it using other parts or parts radios they 
have around.

Any assistance in this (and hopefully in the rest of a repeater conversion and 
parts seeking, like a control head perhaps) is gratefully accepted!



RE: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from multiple ...

2010-04-10 Thread ka9qjg
I also used the Amp Motorola Speaker , I Have Alternator Whine Because I use
the Same Source  for the Scanner and Speaker .  Also  I found out if I key
up on 10 or 6 Meters I get Audio Feedback ,  The Non Amp Motorola Speakers
work great too

 

Don 

 

KA9QJG 

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of william...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:33 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Slightly OT: How are folks taking audio from
multiple ...

 

  

I use a Motorola amplified speaker and an audio combiner circuit.  Since
some of the newer radios don't like to have either of their speaker leads
grounded I had to design a circuit that not only combined the audio but also
isolated the speaker leads from ground.  

 

What I came up with was to use audio isolation transformers for each radio.
A shielded audio cable goes from the speaker jack on the radio to each
isolation transformer.  Each transformer has an 8 ohm 1 watt resistor in
parallel with the primary.  This provides an 8 ohm load for each radio.
These transformers are also available at Radio Shack.  The secondary of each
transformer has one lead grounded and the other lead goes to a resistor.
Each transformers secondary lead with the resistor is tied together and feed
the input of the Motorola amplified speaker.  This is a simple resistive
mixing network that isolates each radio not only from each other but from
ground as well.  Since this is a passive circuit there is some loss but the
amplified Motorola speaker more than makes up for it. 

 

In actual use the volume level on each radio is just a little less than if
you were using the internal speaker.  And turning up the audio about 3/4 of
the way produces enough audio to drive you out of the car.  The disadvantage
is as noted that all the audio comes from the same place and it is necessary
from time to time to look at the radios to see which one is receiving.
However if each radios volume is set at slightly different levels it is easy
to determine which one is active.

 

This has also been tried with the amplified Radio Shack speaker with almost
the same results.  It is pretty hard to beat the amplified Motorola speakers
for loudness and clarity.  

 

Bill - WA0CBW

 

 

In a message dated 4/10/2010 8:32:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mike.l...@gmail.com writes:



Hello Folks,

I am wondering what people are doing these days with multiple two-way radios
and scanners in their vehicle and then outputting it to one speaker in the
vehicle? How are they isolating each radio?

Thanks,
Mike



 



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Had at the hamfest

2010-04-10 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010, AdamW wrote:
 Bought a Mastr Executive II unit today with the idea of making it into 
 a UHF repeater.  The seller indicated it was a 70 watt model, which 
 would have been perfect.  Once I got it home and opened it up, started 
 looking at board part numbers and the Combination Number, it turns out 
 I have one of the vehicular repeaters with a 300mw RF deck!  ARGH!
 
 So, can I convert the RF deck to a higher wattage by adding the 
 missing board in the PA (and where can I get one, and what would it 
 cost?), or simply replacing the whole RF deck with one for UHF and 
 higher power (same questions on this solution).  Lastly, I could sell 
 the radio to someone on here who might be able to build something out 
 of it using other parts or parts radios they have around.

You might be able to find someone here on the list two would be glad to 
trade your three watt radio for a high-power radio.

Low power radios are good for linking.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Had at the hamfest

2010-04-10 Thread Eric Lemmon
I feel your pain!  Sorry, but the Mastr Exec II Vehicular Repeater is not
good for anything other than a few spare parts.  The receiver is about the
only part that is useful in another chassis.  It would be easier and cheaper
to simply buy the rig you want, rather than try to modify your VR.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of AdamW
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Had at the hamfest

  

Bought a Mastr Executive II unit today with the idea of making it into a UHF
repeater. The seller indicated it was a 70 watt model, which would have been
perfect. Once I got it home and opened it up, started looking at board part
numbers and the Combination Number, it turns out I have one of the vehicular
repeaters with a 300mw RF deck! ARGH!

So, can I convert the RF deck to a higher wattage by adding the missing
board in the PA (and where can I get one, and what would it cost?), or
simply replacing the whole RF deck with one for UHF and higher power (same
questions on this solution). Lastly, I could sell the radio to someone on
here who might be able to build something out of it using other parts or
parts radios they have around.

Any assistance in this (and hopefully in the rest of a repeater conversion
and parts seeking, like a control head perhaps) is gratefully accepted!