[Repeater-Builder] Unidentified part in msf5000 vhf station

2010-09-05 Thread wb5oxq
I just aquired a second msf5000 to make a 2 meter repeater our of and it has a 
part not present in the first station.  I suspect it could be a rx preamp due 
to the fact it has coax input and output and it is wired in series between the 
duplexer rx port and the receiver rf input.
It appears to be an aluminum block rack mounted just below the power supply and 
is about 1.5 thick and about 8 or 9 inches wide.  I did not see any electrical 
connections so if it is a preamp it must get power from the coax into the 
receiver.  I am not familiar with this device.  My other station did not have 
this part.  Perhapps it is sopme kind of filter?   Both stations are the 
digital capable models which I program with the rib and old laptop.  Any ideas 
please!  Pictures on request if needed.




[Repeater-Builder] master 3 narowband?

2010-09-04 Thread wb5oxq
can the uhf master 3 radios be programmed narrowband in compliance with the new 
fcc rules or should I take it to a ham swapmeet?
wb5oxq



[Repeater-Builder] Can a Master 3 narroband

2010-08-27 Thread Jim in Waco WB5OXQ
I have a uhf master 4 that has been used for years as a paging exciter.  Now 
the pager business is in the tank I would like to make the master 3 into aq 
repeater for commercial needs to replace a msr2000 because the msr cannot 
narroband.  If the ge can't either I dont want to waste time and just buy a new 
repeater that can narroband.
wb5...@grandecom.net


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Pager interference

2010-08-07 Thread Jim in Waco WB5OXQ
You may have to put a can on the pager transmitter.  Pagers use square waves 
which are very rich in harmonics and need to be filtered at the source.  This 
may be the only way to remove the problem.  I speak from experience.
Jim wb5oxq in Waco
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dwayne 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 1:38 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Pager interference 



  Hi, I've got a new pager issue that has come up on a tower where we have a 
VHF repeater. It's about 400 watts erp and 15 feet horizontal distance and 4.3 
and 4.7 MHz away (it switches).

  I'm thinking of using one bp/br can that will have the notch wide enough to 
cover both channels and one pass can on our RX freq. I can also add more pass 
cans or something like the DCI window filter.

  The real question is where to these can go and in what order. We have a 
standard Q-202 duplexer that worked fine before the pager was put in. I'm 
thinking that the pager cans will go on the RX side of the duplexer, but does 
it matter if the pass goes on the duplexer side or the RX side of the bp/br 
can? I'm kinda thinking that it doesn't matter, but want to do it right in case 
it does.

  Dwayne Kincaid
  WD8OYG



  


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram Titan III 3 Information?

2010-02-25 Thread Jim in Waco WB5OXQ
The Tram Titan original  and Titan 2 were both high ene CB radios.  The 3 may 
also be a CB radio.
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  From: Chris 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:58 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Tram Titan III 3 Information?



  I have a tram titan 3 radio that I am looking for information on. I have the 
manual and the radio does power on. from the manual it lists freqs. in 20 MHz. 
I'm looking to sell it so any information about the radio is appreciated!



  


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram Titan III 3 Information?

2010-02-25 Thread Jim in Waco WB5OXQ
I checked and this is a CB radio with a 20mhz master systhesizer oscillator.  
It might be capable of being moved to 10 meter ham band and it is an all mode 
radio.
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  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:58 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Tram Titan III 3 Information?



  I have a tram titan 3 radio that I am looking for information on. I have the 
manual and the radio does power on. from the manual it lists freqs. in 20 MHz. 
I'm looking to sell it so any information about the radio is appreciated!



  


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF repeaters locked up?

2010-02-23 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
Is it possible the AM signal is getting into an audio stage instead of the 
receiver front end?  I had that happen once.

- Original Message - 
From: KT9AC kt...@ameritech.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Can the 4th harmonic of 1250 AM keep UHF 
repeaters locked up?


I was able to match up the audio coming through the repeater and the
 local AM station. My latest theory is that their signal is so strong
 that its blowing into the receiver's front end and multiplying/mixing
 there (past the bandpass filters and all). They are heterodyne receivers
 after all.

 I'm considering an ICE broadcast high-pass filter that cuts off at
 1.8Mhz (model 402). I have an email into them to see how well it might
 work at 448 Mhz.

 Tony

 tracomm wrote:

 Had a similiar situation at our site, a station on 106.7 MHz, music on
 hang time on many repeaters, intermod runs gave no clue to reason, did
 all the usual, grounding, filters no resolve.
 Turned out to be the STL Marti system on 450.100 MHz, from an close
 studio site pointed right at our site, hitting our Rx multicoupler,
 mixing with our transmitters. Resolution was low passs  isolater on
 the STL system.
 Make certain which station the broadcast audio is coming from and give
 the station engineer a friendly call, may reveal some info to help
 your issue.

 Chris
 GMRS Inc.


 --- In Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, Tony KT9AC kt...@... 
 wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 A while ago I was troubleshooting a bad feedback or growl problem
 that was impacting a UHF repeater, of which the short term workaround
 was to not encode TX PL (PL or DPL would keep it locked until the
 signal dropped enough or timed out).

 In doing some more research, I found a 1250kHz AM station within a
 mile or two that changes pattern between day and night. The
 interference mentioned above would appear around drive times (like
 5pm) so that had me chasing other sources. Still, it was puzzling that
 a 5Mhz signal could be causing the feedback (it didn't appear when
 doing normal receiver testing with a service monitor). The recent give
 away was that I could hear talking underneath my test signal (like a
 sports show).

 So, if we take the 1250Khz signal or 1.25Mhz x 4 = 5Mhz. I realize
 that the 4th harmonic of a 5KW broadcast station isn't very powerful,
 but being in its nearfield might be enough to cause a mix with the UHF
 transmit output.

 Does this make sense? This phenomenon can be duplicated with both a
 450 and 440 repeater system - both with standard 5Mhz offsets. I don't
 think any sort of filtering would work since the mix happens in the
 air.
 Only by having split PL's can the lockup be prevented, and equipment
 was both MSF5000 and Micor systems, through correctly tuned duplexers.
 Thanks,
 Tony




 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Making Mitrek output power adjustable, how?

2009-12-06 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
The highband Mitreks I have used had 2 pots in the driver area.  1 for drive 
level the other for output power.  I have been able to adjust them to just 
about any power though it is said they may not operate properly below 50%.  The 
pots are small plastic one blue and the other orange if I remember correctly.  
You need a small screwdriver to adjust them
  - Original Message - 
  From: cruizzer77 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:59 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Making Mitrek output power adjustable, how?



  There are tons of Mitrek mods out there but I haven't found the adjustable 
output power mod. Therefore: Is it easily possible to make the output power 
adjustable using a pot or trimmer? The desired model is a lowband Mitrek for a 
6m repeater conversion.

  73 Martin HB9TZW



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] $2000 Motrac era repeater!

2009-11-25 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
I have 3 Motorola high band transmitters of anyone is interested.  these were 
paging transmitters on 152.240 and put out 275 watts I believe.  Any of these 
could be teamed up with a vhf receiver to make a repeater.  Now they have 70mhz 
receivers in them with the necessary controls to make them repeat what they 
hear on the link frequency.  They also have hi stability oscillators.  I 
believe they are Micor type units and each has a pair of 4cx250 tubes in them.  
7' cabinets at over 300 pounds each.  Located in Waco, TX.  If anyone wants one 
let me know.  They are doing me no good.  WB5OXQ  I am good in QRZ.

  - Original Message - 
  From: JOHN MACKEY 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:44 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] $2000 Motrac era repeater!



  http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/ele/1477806751.html



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted - Single Channel Motorola Micor

2009-11-04 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
Do you need a complete radio or just a control head and speaker for under the 
dash?  Do you care if the radio works?
wb5oxq
  - Original Message - 
  From: littlejimmy74 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:51 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted - Single Channel Motorola Micor


Hi, I am new to the group so apologies if this is not what it was intended 
for. I have just bought a replica Starsky and Hutch Ford Gran Torino and I am 
looking for a single channel Motorola Micor just like the ones used in the TV 
show (apparently). It will most likely just be for show, so as long as it looks 
good it doesn't really matter if it works or not. I have added a file today 
called Wanted - Single Channel Motorola Micor with pictures of what I'm after 
as I couldn't find out how to attach pictures to this message.

  Hope you guys can help

  Thanks

  James



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna

2009-08-31 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
I have the big Tram dual band antenna and it works real well, however, i the 
one you have is used you may need to disassemple it and disconnect the 
junctions on the elements and clean the copper with scotchbrite or emery colth 
until shiny and reassemble the antenna.  This tarnishes with age and this will 
renue the performance.  I have no swr trouble on either band and the antenna 
performs pretty well for a cheap antenna.
  - Original Message - 
  From: n...@no6b.com 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tram 1481 Dual Band UHF/VHF Antenna


At 8/31/2009 06:33, you wrote:
  Hi Guys,
  We spent most of yesterday working on a UHF Mastr II Exec. Repeater, we 
  are using a TRAM 1481 Dual Band Antenna on. This is the high gain 8.3 dB 
  VHF/11.7 UHF. The system uses UHF Repeater, VHF Simplex, and IRLP. The 
  antenna works very poorly on UHF and much better on VHF. The SWR is about 
  3-1 on both frequencies. The antenna is not DC Ground and there is no 
  shorted connectors. Lack of help prevented us from taking the antenna down 
  and apart at this time. We ran tests by putting the antenna on a portable 
  and working a fixed base and again the VHF pinned the meter and the UHF 
  was weak, only a couple of S units better than the portable rubber duck. 
  Has anyone had a similar problem. I understand that the antenna is a 
  compromise and not as good as a single band folded dipole for example, but 
  several of us have these and they work great except for this one. I am 
  thinking there are enough Tram 1481 out there and someone may have had the 
  same problem.

  I can't speak for the 1481 since I never had one, but I never had any 
  matching or duplexing problems with the 1480 (lower gain 8' version). I 
  also have a few Comet GP9s in service  they work fine, with advertised 
  gain on both bands - no compromise.

  Also there has been many posts about the LMR400 used in repeater service. 
  It is my understanding that the foil type should NEVER be used between 
  duplexers, from the TX, RX to the Duplexers, but I am not sure about 
  between the duplexer and the antenna. Comments please!

  You definitely don't want LMR400 any place where duplexed signals are 
  present. This means between the duplexer  antenna. Not sure why it would 
  be a problem for the TX  RX connections to the duplexer unless the 
  connectors weren't installed properly, but then again why take the chance 
  on a short jumper where loss isn't an issue? Silver-plated RG-214, RG-393, 
  RG-223, RG-400, or RG-142 is known to be safe for that application.

  Bob NO6B



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Nearby Repeaters

2009-08-30 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
Here in central Texas we typically use 123.0 for all repeaters for uniformity,. 
 It makes it easier for folks to remember.  there are quite a few on 2 meters 
and they never cause any problems with each other.  WB5OXQ.

  - Original Message - 
  From: WA3GIN 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:06 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Nearby Repeaters



  Looking for opinions.  

  Our club has a couple of 2m repeaters; we chose to run them with PL and we 
picked 107.2 because that tone freq. was not in use in the area.  Recently two 
other clubs who also have 2m repeaters have decided to utilze the same PL tone 
freq.  

  Does having numerous repeaters PL'd with the same tone freq. increase the 
probability of the normally generated intermod/mixed signal to now carry within 
the produced signal  a correct  PL tone that may land on the input freq. of 
another local repeater?  Is it considered a bad practice to utilize the same PL 
for numerous repeaters in the same band all located within a few miles of each 
other?

  Thanks,
  dave
  wa3gin

  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need schematics for Duracomm LP series power supplies

2009-08-02 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
I use several and when 1 fails I send it to Duracom and they rebuild or replace 
it for half the cost of a new one.  I am not sure they will share a schematic
WB5OXQ
  - Original Message - 
  From: NORM KNAPP 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 6:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need schematics for Duracomm LP series power 
supplies


On the rare occasion that one dies, usually due to lightening, we just 
replace the unit. However, if you do manage to obtain a schematic, please do 
post it. 
  73 N5NPO 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sun Aug 02 15:26:54 2009 
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need schematics for Duracomm LP series power 
supplies 



  Anyone have any leads on the above? I can try calling Duracomm tomorrow, 
  but from what I've read they aren't very helpful in this area. Thanks. 

  Bob NO6B 






  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew DB630 450-482 Unity Fiberglass Antenna at 440.975 MHz

2009-07-23 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
I wouldn't use an antenna 10mhz beyond its design frequency.
  - Original Message - 
  From: ransomk...@verizon.net 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:50 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Andrew DB630 450-482 Unity Fiberglass Antenna at 
440.975 MHz


Will the Andrew DB630 450-482 Unity Fiberglass Antenna work at 440.975 MHz? 
I need something stout and simple for my 9600 bps packet node in a very harsh 
winter environment. The specs say VSWR is 1.5:1 at the band edges. Can I run OK 
down frequency just a bit more?

  Dan at K7MM, VU3MMW



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB Products VHF UHF on same mast?

2009-07-20 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
If you dont need maximim range on the uhf side I just put a vhf/uhf duplexer at 
the transmitters and use the vhf antenna for uhf.  Not very effecient but it 
does work.  Basically the uhf band is the third harmonic of the vhf band.  I 
use a 1/4 wave 2 meter antenna on my wifes car with her ic207h dualband radio 
and it works good on both bands with low reflected power.
  - Original Message - 
  From: tahrens301 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:11 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB Products VHF  UHF on same mast?


I've got a DB-224 that is going up the tower in a
  while when I get the hardline, but control issues 
  have changed from land line to 440mhz control. 

  So I need 2 antennas.

  Today I saw a hybrid DB antenna, effectively a 224, plus
  a 16 element DB, all on the same mast.

  Is this something that can be done without having each
  antenna interact with the other? Sounds like a good idea
  to me.

  Just curious,

  Thanks,

  Tim W5FN



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Service Monitor Question

2009-07-14 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX

  I just won a hp 8924C with the 100 watt mod in it.  I hope i am not sorry. 

  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Service Monitor Question

2009-07-13 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
I am going to have a Motorola box for sale shortly that needs a little work and 
calibration  Email me offthe list if you want information.  It is a model 
2210B.  it is not dead only has a minor problem in the generate mode with the 
fine attenuator control.  Like a scratchy pot.
wb5...@grandecom.net

   

  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 66

2009-07-08 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
I have 2 of these in service and it is for the pager industry not a repeater 
controller.  I know of no way to use one on a repeater unless you want it to 
also be a paging transmitter.  It is tone controlled by the paging terminal and 
can output analog voice paging or digital pocsac or golay paging.  It then 
sends a digital square wave.
WB5OXQ

  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter P J 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:45 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 66





  I got one from the Pager equipment Junk.

  Any use for this in a amateur repeater site?

  Can we convert it into a Rpt controller for VHF?

  Peter



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio samples

2009-07-02 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
If I remember I will record a net on one of my repeaters and put it on youtube. 
 The repeaters I set up are so natural you can barely tell the repeater audio 
from the input audio.  My current repeater is a Motorola MSF 5000 using it's 
stock controller and the audio is quite good.  I usually retard the repeated 
audio about 1 tenth of a kc in deviation so there is less chance for clipping 
which results in muddy audio.
WB5OXQ
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio samples





  At 03:22 AM 07/02/09, you wrote:
  Hello,
  Was Wondering if anyone had a link to a site that had samples of 
  talk thru Repeater traffic that would be considered good quality audio ?
  Maybe i am expecting too much but any of the ones around here that i 
  have heard seem either Muffled or very Shrill, Listening on the 
  input frequency the Audio seems quite reasonable but the Transmit 
  Audio doesn't sound the same and seems a bit average.
  I realize that the Audio will vary due to the normal constraints of 
  Radio atmospherics but i was hoping for something that doesn't sound 
  like a very cheap tiny AM broadcast radio
  I would be really interested in discovering just how good normal 
  Analogue speech can sound when it is being passed through something 
  that is properly setup.
  Apologies if this has been answered before, i searched but couldn't 
  find anything specific.
  Any info gratefully received,
  Cheers,

  Where is around here ?

  From what you are saying it sounds like whomever set up the
  repeater(s) does not understand de-emphasis and pre-emphasis.
  From the article at 
  http://www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/flataudio.html ...

  Another problem that rears its ugly head unless you know the equipment
  you are working on intimately... If you pick off raw (i.e. not
  de-emphasized) audio from the receiver discriminator and pipe it into
  the microphone jack of a transmitter you will end up with an extra
  level of pre-emphasis (commonly called double pre-emphasis) that
  will cause the audio to sound very tinny or shrill (take your home
  hi-fi, tune to a talk radio station, center the bass and the treble
  controls, note the audio characteristics, then crank the bass control
  to minimum and the treble to maximum - and mentally double or triple
  the overall effect). On a true FM transmitter you can sometimes
  bypass the pre-emphasis network, on a phase modulated transmitter
  there is no way around it without adding a de-emphasis network in
  front of it to compensate. This is why many repeater controllers
  have a built in de-emphasis network that can be jumpered into the
  circuit or jumpered out as needed.
  
  Likewise, picking audio from the receiver after the de-emphasis
  network (in some receivers that point is after the volume control and
  the audio muting part of the squelch circuit) and piping it into a
  true FM transmitter modulator can produce audio with extra amount of
  de-emphasis (commonly called double de-emphasis) resulting in a very
  muffled, bassy sound with no high frequencies (same example as above,
  but crank the bass control to maximum and the treble to minimum - and
  mentally double or triple the overall effect).
  
  Either of the above two situations is instantly recognizable by an
  experienced ear.

  Mike WA6ILQ



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 patterns on side of tower.

2009-06-30 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
Done this several times.  The tower will cause a shadow on bhe back side no 
matter how you position the dipoles.  If you are wanting maximum gain in one 
direction away from the tower you must like up the dipoles in that direction.  
Moving some to the side really wont help the sides enough to tell and it will 
reduce the gain in the desired direction.  I believe the DB products engineers 
know what they are talking about.  For example if all dipoles are away from the 
tower leg in line you might get 9 db in front, 6 db to the sides and very 
little to the back.  If you turn dipoles to each side you still get about 6 db 
on each side but now only 6 to the front.  Dipoles are not very directional and 
when all are in phase together you get maximum gain in that direction.  You 
will never get an omnidirectional pattern on a side mount nd if you need the 
offset patern to shift the signal in 1 major direction follow the manual 
directions.  I have an 8 bay on the side of a tower with 36 leg spacing and it 
is located 16 miles away from the center of the desired coverage area.   At 
450' above ground it gives aprox 60 mobile miles to the front, 45 miles at 90 
degrees and 25 to the rear on the 2 meter band.
WB5OXQ.
PS I am not old (62) but I have been a ham since 74 and have been trustee for 
as many as 6 repeaters at a time now thankfully only 1 !
  - Original Message - 
  From: tahrens301 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:35 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB-224 patterns on side of tower.





  Hi Folks,

  We are putting up the DB-224 on the side of the tower,
  which is one of those large 3 legged towers. (like you
  see at microwave  telephone sites).

  I have the DB-products data sheet on the 224, and it
  has some plots for side mounting on the tower. 

  The plot in question is the 224E (all in line, pointed
  away from the tower).

  According to DBprod, it would give the appropriate pattern
  for our desired area. However, one of the old salts here
  (who has final say-so) says that you really have to put some
  left and right angulation on the elements to get that pattern.

  I guess the real question is how positioning on the side of
  the large tower affects the pattern - if the elements are
  directly perpendicular to the tower leg, versus having some
  rotation on the leg.

  I'm thinking that we will probably just have to experiment
  with what we get per old-salt's method  see how it works.

  Anybody have any other ideas?

  Thanks,

  Tim W5FN



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] VHF repeater suggestions...

2009-06-21 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
Midland has a new 110 watt repeater that can go key down forever without 
overheating.  The whole rackmount cabinet is cast aluminum fins.  I have had 
one in my hands very heavy piece not typical sheetmetal cabinet.  I have not 
sold one yet though.  Not cheap but less than a M3 or Motorola 110 watt 
continuous duty.  Has a 5 year warranty too!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Dakota Summerhawk 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:39 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] VHF repeater suggestions...







  Our local RACES group has a Kenwood TKR-720 driving a TPL PA that they 
  were ill-advised to purchase some years ago. It is maintained by the 
  county radio shop for various reasons and has been a nightmare. Once 
  again the final in the Kenwood has done a meltdown.

  That said, the local EMA manager, also a new ham, wishes to replace it 
  if he can squeeze the funds out somewhere. My recommendation, 
  obviously the most expensive, was a Master III and new Arcom 
  controller simply because the county already maintains three VHF M3's 
  and a 5-site, 8-channel trunked system using 800 M3's. Parts and 
  support are good.

  I would really appreciate input, both regarding setting up a Master 
  III, or other viable repeater. We need, minimally, 100% duty-cycle at 
  approximately 100 watts, good parts and support available, and 
  reliability. Is there a decent source for M3's with P25 becoming more 
  desirable, etc..

  I don't want a, mine is better than yours, war so off-reflector 
  replies are also welcome. TIA...

  Len Revelle N9IJ
  n...@comcast.net


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Duplexer for 30W repeater ok?

2009-06-21 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
I have used the mobile duplexers on uhf systems under 40 watts with 
satisfactory results.  Small and usually can be had new for under 300.00
  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Wagoner 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 3:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mobile Duplexer for 30W repeater ok?





  At 03:46 PM 6/21/2009, you wrote:
  Just a double-check question. I'm thinking of buying a UHF mobile 
  duplexer to use with my repeater at home. Since I'll only be running 
  30 watts, any opinions if this is a bad idea?

  Ladies and gentlemen - we are at DEFCON 5...

  Larry Wagoner - N5WLW
  VP - PRCARC
  PIC - MS SECT ARRL 



  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon Sm4450sc ctcss

2009-06-03 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
Do you have the microphone hanger grounded?
  - Original Message - 
  From: kerinvale 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:44 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon Sm4450sc ctcss





Hi guys .I have purchased a sm4450sc from the us with a 93C56 eprom.I 
have programmed the eprom with the sm4000 programer (sm4450-ex) with a ctcss 
channel.The squelch is operating ok but with the ctcss it isn't muting the 
audio.When a non-ctcss signal is applied the audio still comes through .When a 
ctcss signal  is applied the  call light comes on but the audio doesn't mute 
when its removed .Link 1 and 2 have been linked as per manual. can anyone 
suggest any more I need to check . 
Thank You,
Ian Wells,
Kerinvale Comaudio,
361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au

 

   
  
   


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater ID Enforcement

2009-04-12 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
I hear a repeater in the area that Id's a lot but it is also carrier squelch 
and the squelch pops a lot 24/7 and that probably caused this one to id a lot.  
It does not seem to be at a regular interval and some days are worse than 
others.  Nevertheless it is id'ing on its own without a carrier that can be 
recognised.
wb5oxq


[Repeater-Builder] vhf micor 1/4kw stations and 350w/uhf amp

2009-03-21 Thread wb5oxq

I have 3 micor 1/4kw stations on 157mhz with 70mhz receivers that were paging
transmitters and a 350 watt vocom solid state amp for uhf new in the box.  If
you are interested in any of these items or parts contact me directly.  Jim
Miller, waco, tx. wb5...@grandecom.net




Re: [Repeater-Builder] MAXON SMP-4000 PROGRAMMER HELP

2009-02-18 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
Contact me direct and I will see if I can help
WB5OXQ.  Find me in QRZ if you need my email address
I should have the software and cable needed to program the 4140-4450 radios.  
At one time Maxon offered a repeater using 2 of these radios.  I will see 
tomorrow when I am at my shop if the software allows ham frequencies to be 
programmed.  I think so but I am not absolutely sure.

  - Original Message - 
  From: w7...@comcast.net 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:38 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MAXON SMP-4000 PROGRAMMER HELP



  Hello Group,
  I am searching for a manual, or pdf for a Maxon SMP-4000 programmer. I am 
attempting to use two Maxon 4150 radios as a emergency rpt. . While I am here, 
has anyone moded this model of radio for rpt. use? But, until I can program 
radios for tune up and testingI am stuck!

  Oh, I had better ask. Can these radios be programmed into Ham frequencies 
in the EEPROM. I realize that I may have to adjust within the radio also, if I 
can get 2 meter frequencies programmed in the EEPROM.

  Any info on programmer and radio would be appreciated!

  Thanks!

  Tim Hardy W7TRH / AFA0TP
  Vashon Is. Wa.
  206.850.9735


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter noise help!

2009-01-28 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
Possibly noisy brushes in an elevator generator or motor

  - Original Message - 
  From: Barry 
  To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:25 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter noise help!


  So have you used a directional setup to determine which direction ?
   , then walk  or drive towards it with an ht or scanner , simple df work , 
sounds like machinery but could be almost anything from a pole insulator to 
your neighbours tv in standby .




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  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  From: ch...@n8wct.com
  Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:24:41 -0500
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 2 meter noise help!




  While not a true repeater, I hoping the gurus here can help me.

  Station info can be seen here; http://www.n8wct.com/n8wct-4/

  The noise is a subtle low-frequency bacon crackling. It is apparent across 
the whole 2 meter band. Every piece of (my) equipment has been replaced, or 
substituted. We even bypassed the filter, turned everything off, and the noise 
was still present, even on battery power. SWR is fine...the station can be 
heard 90 miles away.

  Even though the noise is subtle, the pops seem to be on frequency with the 
packet tones, thus, the radio requires an S8 strong receive signal, before the 
TNC can decode it!

  We are pretty sure its environmental...perhaps one of the large roof fans, 
a/c unit, or crap from the large adjacent electrical room...whatever it is, we 
are guests on the building, and probably would get much sympathy/help from the 
owners.

  Here's where I need help...

  1. Identifying the source. I have an o-scope, but frankly, don't know much 
about how to use it. Is there some sort of antenna analyzer that would help me 
with this? Any other comments or advice would be deeply appreciated.

  2. Repair or eliminate source.

  Or 3. If I cant repair or eliminate the source, is there a way to filter it 
out?

  This is really a great location, and I'm very eager to remedy the problem, so 
if anybody has anything...anything at all, please share.

  Thanks everyone.

  73, Chris.

  _
  Chris Greenhalgh, N8WCT

  www.n8wct.com





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Are you ready for narrowbanding?

2009-01-17 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco

  I purchased a used MSF 5000 UHF repeater from a Motorola shop and they 
installed the narrow band filters and set it up for a nb commercial channel for 
me and it works great.  It does not deviate past 2.5, receives well and the 
ctcss noise is not noticeable on the stations. Having programmed another vhf 
MSF 5000 for 2 meters,  I know the ctcss level is not separately adjustable.  
Apparently these stations work well modded for bum
  wb5oxq. 
   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Six Meter Repeater Noise Issues

2008-12-26 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I had a problem like this but it was all the time and it was caused by a faulty 
matv amplifier in a apartment building a block away from the repeater. It cause 
the rooftop TV antenna connected to the matv amp to radiate.  A now retired and 
possibly deceased FCC examiner out of the Dallas field office made a trip to 
our town at the request of our ham club and he tracked the problem down and 
made the owner of the matv system shut their equipment down until it could be 
repaired  A low band TV antenna amp going into oscillation can cause a lot of 
problems on 6 meters.  BTW a first phone tech who installed the matv unit 
argued with the FCC inspector and got his license revoked in the process.  
Sometimes it is best do what you are told and fix it later!
wb5oxq.

  - Original Message - 
  From: neal Newman 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 8:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Six Meter Repeater Noise Issues


Noise on the six meter repeater.
 On my  machine 53.67 in New jersey I was getting noise that was 
holding the machine Keyed up. then drop. and key up again. I thought it was 
desense Even with a big expensive
 Commercial Duplexer. with the transmitter off, the normal unsquelched 
Hiss sounded Fine No noise that we could detect. after weeks of this. We 
finally found out what the Problem was.  the 2 meter,and 440 machines next to 
it ran just fine.however They both had an IRLP link on them.  The Noise problem 
turned out to be the Router/switch.
The Noise it was creating was just at the threshold level to Key and 
hold open the repeater.
BTW. The 6 meter machine was in PL  with a Tone of 67hz.. Not a 
good choice.
 between the60 cycle noise of a bad wall wart for the router switch and 
the noise it created.
 might as well put a flea power transimitter with PL sitting on the 
repeaters input.
 changed the router swich and PL tome. and Problem wentt away.
Verizon uses cheapo routers. we placed the new one in a shielded box

Neal-KA2CAF

--- On Thu, 12/25/08, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com wrote:

  From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ wa6...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Six Meter Repeater Noise Issues
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 10:12 PM


  At 11:06 AM 12/25/08, you wrote:


Hi To All  Hope everybody had a good Christmas,
 
While the subject was brought up, I have been having a similar 
experience here at my location.
It is not on a repeater, but a simplex radio (vertex VX3000l 
mobile) for a base on the natl Red Cross freq of 47 mhz.
In the daytime the receiver is quiet and hears fine.
It seems as about the time the sun starts going down, the 
receiver's squelch opens and has a constant static noise for many hours but 
still receives fine.
It may do it all night, I don't know, I haven't stayed up to see, 
just leave the radio on and go to bed.
Was wondering if could be power line noise (but why wouldn't do in 
daytime also)?
Is there any interference to the HF bands like this at night?
 
Thanks,
Mike   KB5FLX 

  An old trick - if the on-time changes about 6 minutes a day then it's 
light-dependent (i..e a photo-electric triggered yard light).

  In your shoes I'd power the radio from a gell-cell, 
  and then go flip breakers off one at a time.
  That will tell you if the noise source is inside 
  the house, and if so, on which breaker.

  Mike WA6ILQ
   



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Six Meter Repeater Noise Issues

2008-12-25 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
What about a switching power supply
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Dietrich 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 1:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Six Meter Repeater Noise Issues



  No,
  No strretlights, Rural area.
  Mike 
- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Kelsey 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Six Meter Repeater Noise Issues



Could it be a nearby street light?

Chuck
WB2EDV


  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Dietrich 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 2:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Six Meter Repeater Noise Issues


  Hi To All  Hope everybody had a good Christmas,

  While the subject was brought up, I have been having a similar experience 
here at my location.
  It is not on a repeater, but a simplex radio (vertex VX3000l mobile) for 
a base on the natl Red Cross freq of 47 mhz.
  In the daytime the receiver is quiet and hears fine.
  It seems as about the time the sun starts going down, the receiver's 
squelch opens and has a constant static noise for many hours but still receives 
fine.
  It may do it all night, I don't know, I haven't stayed up to see, just 
leave the radio on and go to bed.
  Was wondering if could be power line noise (but why wouldn't do in 
daytime also)?
  Is there any interference to the HF bands like this at night?

  Thanks,
  Mike   KB5FLX 




   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 PL encode deviation

2008-12-10 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I put up a 5000 about 6 months ago and it works well but you are correct in 
that the ctcss deviation is not adjustable separately.  Mine runs around 900hz 
also with the total with voice set at 4.9khz.  Nobody notices a hum though.  
wb5oxq

  - Original Message - 
  From: wd8chl 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSF-5000 PL encode deviation


  Ralph Hogan wrote:
   Gang,
   New to MSF-5000's. Great piece of hardware. But more used to working with GE
   Mastr II's. Have an MSF-5000 repeater we're trying to get going on VHF. Have
   experimented with both the on-board controller stand alone as well as off
   board CAT. Several ee-pots to adjust in the software setting output audio
   levels, but none specific to just PL encode level. We got it adjusted for 5
   KHz output deviation, but noticed the PL encode deviation is a little high
   at about 900 Hz. I usually like to see around 600 to 750 Hz. I couldn't find
   in the manuals anywhere what Moto spec'd PL deviation at for the MSF-5000.
   Looks like the PL level is a fixed percentage without an independent output
   level adjust. Probably something we are doing wrong in setting levels, but
   wanted to get some feedback from the group.
   Thanks in advance!
   Ralph W4XE

  One thing I have seen some people do mistakenly is assume that the 
  +/-5KHz deviation spec is for voice audio. It is TOTAL deviation. You 
  should be staying under, really, 4.7-4.8 for ALL audio, WITH CTCSS 
  running...just checking...
  That said, I remember hearing on a list that the ratio is fixed. Chances 
  are, if you are getting 900 KHz of PL, your voice deviation is too high 
  too.


   

[Repeater-Builder] high power 460mhz amp

2008-11-16 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco

   I may have a new in the box solid state amp if anyone needs one this big.  A 
spare, it has never been used.
  Vocom model  UVC350-XRF 
   420-512 
   350w out 
   50w in 13.8vdc 
   75amp

  uhf 50w in 350w out.  Fan cooled on transmit only. Rack mount.  Was a spare 
for a paging transmitter no longer in use.  Current list $3660.00
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  on transmit only_._,___ 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon sm4450

2008-10-01 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
The sm 4450 is a 16 channel 40 watt uhf transciever.  There is a 25 watt uhf 
model but it has only 4 channels and is capable of 40 watts also by adjusting a 
pot inside but it does not have enough heat sink to run at 40 watts more than a 
few seconds so I would not advise it even with a fan.
wb5oxq
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kerincom 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:38 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maxon sm4450


Hi guys .Can anyone advise the difference between the 25 watt and the 
40 watt version of the above radio and can the 25 watt version  be upgraded to 
the 40 watt

Thank You,
Ian Wells,
Kerinvale Comaudio,
361 Camboon Road.Biloela.4715
Phone 0749922574 or 0409159932
www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au

 

   
  
   


   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bridgecom repeater

2008-09-29 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I have never used one but the factory rep calls on me to sell me Maxon radios 
and these repeaters are in the catalog.  Very reasonable priced and have good 
specs on paper.
They are advertised to also work on amateur frequencies which some commercial 
repeaters cannot be programmed for.  I am calling on a school district tomorrow 
to try to sell one so I may have one on the commercial band soon.
Jim Miller wb5oxq

  - Original Message - 
  From: ka9qjg 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 7:07 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bridgecom repeater







  Jed I have never heard of them but being nosey I did a Search 
http://tinyurl.com/4qwqrm



  Maybe some else on Hear will actually know more 



  Happy Repeater Building 



  Don KA9QJG 


   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-18 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I am curious why anyone in modern times wants to use carrier squelch?  All 
radios I have seen for years had ctcss standard.  Also I am in Texas and the 
Texas VHF-FM society our coordinator agency frowns on carrier squelch on vhf 
and does not allow it on uhf.  I find ctcss much more sensitive than carrier 
squelch.  Just wondering?
WB5OXQ

   
   
   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood squelch quality

2008-08-18 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
Guys I was not trying to stir up discontent.  I got my ticket in 1974 when very 
few if any ham repeaters had ctcss.  It was a lot of fun and when the band 
opened you could work dx on your local repeater.  I really liked that.  Now, 
however, in Central Texas at least, there is so much congestion that you have 
to run ctcss or have your repeater become almost unusable much of the time.  
Then the coordinators got really insistent on ctcss so I got on the wagon.  At 
one time I had 5 repeaters on the air in this area that I had built for various 
hams and we put ctcss on all of them.  We mostly all use 123.0 in this county 
so everyone here knows which tone to program into their radios.  We are too 
close to Dallas and FtWorth not to use tone to stay out of each others hair.  
There are few pairs left around here to put a repeater on 2 meters.  I loved 
the 70s but it is over for many of us.  If you are in a remote area with a good 
antenna site carrier squelch could be fun!  Thank goodness I only have 1 
repeater (on ham bands) to maintain now.  I spend much of my time on 75 meters 
AM and many don't like that mode either!  Everyone have fun, that is what a 
hobby should be
Jim in Waco, TX WB5OXQ  Trustee Texas State Guard ARC 147.320-123.0 ctcss.

 
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Registered Sex Offenders

2008-08-09 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
There are reasons one could be required to register as a sex offender some of 
which would have nothing to do with a relationship with young people.  If you 
hear any conversations on your repeater you deem unfit you have the right to 
ask the party not to use your repeater.  That being said unless the sex 
offender has been convicted of a felony it would not be cause to revoke their 
license so you must make the judgment on usage of your repeater yourself and be 
careful you don't end up on the wrong end of a civil law suit.  73,  WB5OXQ

- Original Message - 
  From: Don 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 5:58 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Registered Sex Offenders


  Hello I hope Everyone is doing Well , Some things We do not like
  talking about Except with our Ham friends Privately and I am sure 
  My Topic is one that may effect all of us

  But I have a Question and I have got a lot of Opinions , But I Need
  to know if Anyone Has the Real answer and can Give ,Me the FCC Rule 
  Etc

  A group of us are aware of a Couple Registered Sex Offenders who are 
  Lic
  Ham Radio operators, They use some of the Local Repeaters . And have
  Engages in conversations with Lets say Younger Ham radio Operators, 
  Boy
  Scouts, little league Etc

  We would like to Know is there is a FCC Ruling against Them still
  Holding and using a Valid Amateur Radio Lic

  I know this question will cause a Frenzy of comments, But I am sure
  others would like to know to So lets keep the answers and comments
  Civil. All of also know with the homeland Security some clubs have 
  been
  given funds for Equipment and Training,

  I would hate for an Incident Come up because of the above Question,
  normally in Life changes are not made until something bad happens.

  PS I have a Repeater on 440 and 220 do I flip the big switch on them 
  I am not judging Innocent or Guilt that will be done in a higher 
  place 

  73 De Don KA9QJG



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxtrac Question

2008-06-07 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I have had that happen on radios that had been overheated and needed the lead 
tabs resoldered on the output transistors to get the power back up.  maybe not 
your case though.  Usually most radios will make more than their rated power 
especially at higher input voltages.  Sometimes not for long though!  You might 
check dc voltages inside the radio when keyed to make sure you don't get a bad 
voltage sag when transmitting.  Old Regency radios had a bad habit of that when 
the off on switch got weak.
wb5oxq

  - Original Message - 
  From: tgundo2003 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:52 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maxtrac Question


  I have a UHF (D44) 40w 449-470 maxtrac on the bench. All checks out
  good, except power out. Most I can get out of it is 22 watts, and that
  happens at 92 on the adjustment scale, any values above 92 yield no
  difference in power output.

  Here is the strange thing- I get more out (22W) at 441.300, and only
  14w at 467.xxx. Since this is a 449-470 split I would think it would
  be the opposite. 

  Anyone have any thoughts?

  Tom
  W9SRV



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] P25 (mis)Information?

2008-05-29 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
Midland P25 radios and repeaters do analog and digital both.
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:48 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] P25 (mis)Information?


   
   

[Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 alignment problem

2008-04-24 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I have a uhf msr2000 which I recently changed frequency to 464.075/469.075. 
Original freq was about 1.5mhz away. I sent the elements in and had them 
recrystaled.  After I installed them and tuned up the receiver it worked pretty 
well for a month.  I noticed it loosing sensitivity lately so I got out the 
service monitor to check sensitivity.  Here is the problem.  If you tune the 
frequency trimmer for best quieting you get very scratchy audio.  If you tune 
for best audio you loose sensitivity.  I did not bother the discriminator coil 
but if it is misaligned will that be my problem?  If aligned for best quieting 
it breaks squelch at around .21uv but at best audio recovery it only makes 
.8uv.  This is with the generator passing through the duplexer with the 
transmitter disabled.  The duplexer is factory Motorola.  This is a 110 watt 
intermittent duty repeater and I am getting 65 watts out of the duplexer.  Does 
this sound about right for this machine?
WB5OXQ

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-23 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
A local AM station here in Waco recently had much of its rack mounted equipment 
stolen during the daytime  and it was not noticed until that night when the 
site which was only on the air after sunset would not come on line.  Thieves 
got away with this since many tower sites are located in cow pastures with 
nobody around to see what is going on (except the cows).  I have since 
installed alarm systems on the buildings with wireless cellular backups in case 
thieves cut the phone line to the transmitter site.   Too bad thieves did not 
try to touch the tower when it was energized.  10kw of rf can burn you pretty 
bad and I doubt the transmitter would shut down quickly from only a human body 
shunting it to ground.  Those new Harris DX10 solid state am transmitters may 
not be as sensitive to a slight change is swr as some of the older tube rigs 
may be.   Only problem with alarm systems is the law is sometimes way too late 
getting to a remote site!
WB5OXQ
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Finch 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:35 AM
  Subject: RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft




  In the tower building I have several customers, paging, public service, 
Wi-Fi, trunking systems as well as my Ham repeaters and it scares me to no end 
that they are going to get in the building and try and steal or vandalize 
something.

  Paul




--

  Here in Texas you can use deadly force to protect your property, day or 
night. Might be a good idea to move to the site for security with as big a 
weapon you can handle.

  David

  =
  From: MCH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2008/04/22 Tue PM 11:11:04 CDT
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

  But, they don't know the value of that, and likely don't have any 
  outlets to get money from it. But, they DO know the value of copper, and 
  there are plenty of scrap yards..

  BUT, you would think that the first few cuts would have deterred them 
  since the majority of the metal is NOT copper - as you can clearly see 
  in the photos.

  I bet the left the connectors on the strike plate, too (assuming there 
  is one).

  Joe M.

  Paul Finch wrote:
   And left a $200.00 connector.
   
   Paul
   
   
   --
   *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Juan Tellez
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] More on Copper theft

2008-04-22 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
There has got to be a way to catch and make an example of these thieves.  The 
buyers of copper must be trained to be selective about who they buy this stuff 
from and require good ID and keep records of who they buy from and be aware 
that the stuff might be stolen.  Regulations as stiff as buying or selling a 
handgun might help.  Something has GOT to be done.
WB5OXQ
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Channel Elements

2008-03-22 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
Yes you can
  - Original Message - 
  From: Adam C. Feuer 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Channel Elements


  If I'm not mistaken, I believe you can them in the MSR2000 as well.

  Adam N2ACF

  At 20:43 3/22/2008, you wrote:
  Were Motorola KXN1086 and KXN1088 channel elements
  used in any other product line besides the Mitrek?
  
  Eric, KH6CQ
  
  
  
   
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question for the forum.

2008-01-31 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
If either takes a lightning strike the fiberglass will explode.  I have had 
that happen with both.
Check into Tram antennas.  they seem electrically and mechanically similar to 
the diamond but are a lot cheaper!
WB5OXQ

  - Original Message - 
  From: w2sxk 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:43 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna question for the forum.


  Goodafternoon,

  Me and a friend are putting up a secondary VHF repeater and have a 
  antenna question. Being we are on a budget but have looked at these 2 
  antennas as options.

  Diamond F22A monoband base or the Husler G6-144B 

  Any pros or cons to these antennas and which would you choose or you 
  have another option?

  Antenna will be mounted between 30-40' on multiuse rohn 45 tower fed 
  with LMR-400 and subjected to typical Northeast USA weather North of 
  NYC. Ofcourse if money wasn't an issue, I would prompt for a more 
  durible antenna specifically suited for repeater use. We need to keep 
  antenna size down to less then 10' in length and cost down as well. 
  My choice was the Diamond F22A. It apears similiar in size and 
  construction to the X-200 dual band and I have not had any issues 
  with my current intallation. Any comments or suggestions???

  73,
  Steve - W2SXK
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater

2008-01-28 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I agree with the open band interference on 10 since it is so unlike 2 m or 440 
mhz.
I wonder if CTCS should be required on 10 m repeaters so you could choose which 
area you wanted to go to.
I guess some older hf rigs don't support pl but most modern ones do.
Just a thought from WB5OXQ


  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater



  Please keep in mind that there are only four repeater channels. When the band 
is open, all four channels are an unusable mess of carriers and heterodynes, 
making each channel impossible to. 

  If you're really wanting to have a VHF Low-band repeater, have you considered 
Six Meters? At least you can do that at one site. A ten-meter repeater requires 
two sites with a link between them.




   

-Original Message- 
From: tom_kd8deg 
Sent: Jan 26, 2008 5:23 PM 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater 


Hi All,

HELP

Is there anyone out there with any knowlage with building a 10 meter 
repeater. My self and another ham want to put up a 10 meter repeater 
and finding nothing in the great World Wide Web on how to go about it.

73

de Tom KD8DEG




   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater

2008-01-28 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
Can you link the sites through the internet and they be most anywhere? 
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Transmitter Tuning

2007-12-28 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I have a meter that I removed from a Mitrek based paging transmitter that I 
used to tune Mitrek mobiles when I built repeaters out of them.  It has the 
plugs on the ends of the wires for the receiver and transmitter as well as the 
function and meter reverse switch on it would sell it if anyone interested 
email me off of the list.  I am good in QRZ.  
WB5OXQ 
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF 5000 CLB

2007-12-08 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
Probably Not true.  The Dallas amateur club repeater did that as far back as 
the mid 70s and broadcast other things too.  The FCC district office is located 
there so I know they were aware of that.  There are some items of ham interest 
you can broadcast like time temp weather etc.  Some repeaters broadcast the 
NASA channel audio at times.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tony L. 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 6:33 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF 5000 CLB


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If you've programmed the repeater to make time announcements even 
when there in no activity on the receiver, you are in violation of 
FCC rules that prohibit broadcasting.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, kd7ikz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All 
 I am runnig a MSF 5000 CLB with a Arcom controll. I am also runnig 
 echolink on the repeater. I have the repeater say the time every 
hour 
 and half hour. I was going to work today and the repeater said to 
time 
 ok. Then I was going to get on echolink and the repeater did not 
key 
 up so I called home and the wife said that the TX light was on and 
the 
 RX light was blinking on and off. She tryed to reset but the RX 
light 
 would not come back on. So I just let it be for about two hours and 
 tryed it again and the RX light came up. can anyone gave me any 
ides 
 on what it mite be? Also I have to keep a fan on the RF tray and 
 station control because it gets to hot and when it TX it sounds 
like 
 it has a open squelch.I am new to the repeater world. The repeater 
is 
 working fine other then that.
 Thanks
 Bob
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help with dead msf 5000

2007-11-13 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I checked and found these cables intact.  I wonder what voltages should be at 
the 5 pin plug under the control pc board.  I have 14vdc on the red and black 
but nothing on any of the other wires.  all fuses on the ps are good.  Still 
dead in the water.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Andrew G. 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help with dead msf 5000


   
   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help with dead msf 5000

2007-11-13 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I do not have the test device for this model.  the connecter from the power 
supply to the rf deck is intact at both ends.
I believe this unit was working when removed from service but after the seller 
removed the secure audio board I suspect some jumper or cable of some kind much 
have been left out accidentally.  I cant imagine what though.  I hate to take 
it to the Motorola shop at 95.00 per hour.  I am real sad that this wont work 
because I thought it would make a real good 2 meter repeater for our club.  the 
seller says he is sorry but things happen and that is why he sold it as is.  I 
just wish there was a ham who would help within a reasonable driving distance 
of Waco, TX and I would take the unit to him for help.  


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jay Urish 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help with dead msf 5000


  Do you have a diagnostic panel?



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