Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
I've done it several times using this method - works every time.

First I use a DOS floppy to FDISK and format the drive in the laptop. This way
the partition table is set the way the laptop BIOS will expect it.

Then I remove the drive from the laptop and connect it to my $40 universal
drive gimmick:
http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=1501sku=30504
A better photo that shows the included double-headed power supply and
]the SATA cable is here:
http://www.cablestogo.com/hi-res_image.asp?sku=30504image=30504-A.jpg

Then I copy the installation CD to the hard drive into a directory that
says what it is... W98CD, W98SECD, NT4CD, W2KCD, never use
the name Windows, WinNT,  or Win32

Then reinstall the drive into the laptop, boot into DOS from a floppy and
install from C:\whatever-your-directory-name-is\setup.exe

That little USB drive adapter is a lifesaver.

Disclaimer: I have no relationship to Cables To Go other than as a
satisfied repeat customer for over 10 years (my first purchase
was a 386-33 motherboard).

Mike WA6ILQ

At 06:12 AM 06/17/08, you wrote:
A simple solution to your dilemma is to pull the drive and connect it
with a $12.00 adapter to a modern 3.5 ide drive bay desktop computer,
format the drive as fat32,copy the win98se directory off of the cdrom
to the 2.5 laptop drive.. stick the laptop drive back into the
laptop.. boot from a dos boot floppy made in xp, and execute the
setup program on the hard drive in the windows directory... you do
not need the cdrom if you have all the cab files

Most decent computer stores offer 2.5 (laptop) drive adapters either
to USB or IDE so you can connect them to a standard desktop to work
on them or copy to/from...

My CF-27 has no cdrom, but XP can be loaded in a similar process more
or less, however the folder involved is the I386 folder from the
install cd...  The CF27 will take a lot bigger drive than 2
gigs. I think mine is a 60 split in 2 partitionsOne DOS
fat32, on XP NTFS

Doug
KD8B





At 07:21 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:

 Have you found one yet?
 
 *I May* have a CF27 up for sale. Bought it ironically at a hamfest 2
 weekends ago here in ATL. I LOVE the laptop. The only thing is that
 I am having a heck of a time getting at least Win98 on the drive. No
 CD drive. USB drive though. It came with a drive that had Lynx
 (sp?)on it that was not really functioning. Needed something to use
 with the program to program the Arcom RC210 with. Everything seems to
 work on it, but the drive did take a dive. I had another drive (2gig)






Yahoo! Groups Links





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

2008-06-18 Thread georgiaskywarn
What did you do to get the usb port to be recognized?  Seems like you
have to have it seen before you could use that.  
Robert
ps Really don't want to have to get rid of it, but 3 repeater projects
are draining my resources right now ;-)  Great laptop to grab and go
on repeaters though.


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've done it several times using this method - works every time.
 
 First I use a DOS floppy to FDISK and format the drive in the
laptop. This way
 the partition table is set the way the laptop BIOS will expect it.
 
 Then I remove the drive from the laptop and connect it to my $40
universal
 drive gimmick:
 http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=1501sku=30504
 A better photo that shows the included double-headed power supply and
 ]the SATA cable is here:
 http://www.cablestogo.com/hi-res_image.asp?sku=30504image=30504-A.jpg
 
 Then I copy the installation CD to the hard drive into a directory that
 says what it is... W98CD, W98SECD, NT4CD, W2KCD, never use
 the name Windows, WinNT,  or Win32
 
 Then reinstall the drive into the laptop, boot into DOS from a
floppy and
 install from C:\whatever-your-directory-name-is\setup.exe
 
 That little USB drive adapter is a lifesaver.
 
 Disclaimer: I have no relationship to Cables To Go other than as a
 satisfied repeat customer for over 10 years (my first purchase
 was a 386-33 motherboard).
 
 Mike WA6ILQ
 
 At 06:12 AM 06/17/08, you wrote:
 A simple solution to your dilemma is to pull the drive and connect it
 with a $12.00 adapter to a modern 3.5 ide drive bay desktop computer,
 format the drive as fat32,copy the win98se directory off of the cdrom
 to the 2.5 laptop drive.. stick the laptop drive back into the
 laptop.. boot from a dos boot floppy made in xp, and execute the
 setup program on the hard drive in the windows directory... you do
 not need the cdrom if you have all the cab files
 
 Most decent computer stores offer 2.5 (laptop) drive adapters either
 to USB or IDE so you can connect them to a standard desktop to work
 on them or copy to/from...
 
 My CF-27 has no cdrom, but XP can be loaded in a similar process more
 or less, however the folder involved is the I386 folder from the
 install cd...  The CF27 will take a lot bigger drive than 2
 gigs. I think mine is a 60 split in 2 partitionsOne DOS
 fat32, on XP NTFS
 
 Doug
 KD8B
 
 
 
 
 
 At 07:21 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:
 
  Have you found one yet?
  
  *I May* have a CF27 up for sale. Bought it ironically at a hamfest 2
  weekends ago here in ATL. I LOVE the laptop. The only thing is that
  I am having a heck of a time getting at least Win98 on the drive. No
  CD drive. USB drive though. It came with a drive that had Lynx
  (sp?)on it that was not really functioning. Needed something to use
  with the program to program the Arcom RC210 with. Everything seems to
  work on it, but the drive did take a dive. I had another drive (2gig)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

2008-06-18 Thread Doug Bade
Pre OS boot machine BIOS on most modern P3 class or newer laptops can 
see a usb drive device such as a floppy, cdrom or in P4 and later 
cases now flash drives. For the most part anything P3 800 or older 
will not see a flash drive without a software driver sub system... 
however in many cases P3 laptops with usb ports can be set to detect 
disk drives to boot from... even if internal bays are available but 
unpopulated.

PII versions, all bets are off...

CF27's came as PII's and PIII's...depending on age...

Doug


At 01:10 PM 6/18/2008, you wrote:

What did you do to get the usb port to be recognized? Seems like you
have to have it seen before you could use that.
Robert
ps Really don't want to have to get rid of it, but 3 repeater projects
are draining my resources right now ;-) Great laptop to grab and go
on repeaters though.

--- In 
mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, 
Mike Morris WA6ILQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've done it several times using this method - works every time.
 
  First I use a DOS floppy to FDISK and format the drive in the
laptop. This way
  the partition table is set the way the laptop BIOS will expect it.
 
  Then I remove the drive from the laptop and connect it to my $40
universal
  drive gimmick:
  
 http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=1501sku=30504http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat%5Fid=1501sku=30504
  A better photo that shows the included double-headed power supply and
  ]the SATA cable is here:
  
 http://www.cablestogo.com/hi-res_image.asp?sku=30504image=30504-A.jpghttp://www.cablestogo.com/hi-res_image.asp?sku=30504image=30504-A.jpg
 
  Then I copy the installation CD to the hard drive into a directory that
  says what it is... W98CD, W98SECD, NT4CD, W2KCD, never use
  the name Windows, WinNT, or Win32
 
  Then reinstall the drive into the laptop, boot into DOS from a
floppy and
  install from C:\whatever-your-directory-name-is\setup.exe
 
  That little USB drive adapter is a lifesaver.
 
  Disclaimer: I have no relationship to Cables To Go other than as a
  satisfied repeat customer for over 10 years (my first purchase
  was a 386-33 motherboard).
 
  Mike WA6ILQ
 
  At 06:12 AM 06/17/08, you wrote:
  A simple solution to your dilemma is to pull the drive and connect it
  with a $12.00 adapter to a modern 3.5 ide drive bay desktop computer,
  format the drive as fat32,copy the win98se directory off of the cdrom
  to the 2.5 laptop drive.. stick the laptop drive back into the
  laptop.. boot from a dos boot floppy made in xp, and execute the
  setup program on the hard drive in the windows directory... you do
  not need the cdrom if you have all the cab files
  
  Most decent computer stores offer 2.5 (laptop) drive adapters either
  to USB or IDE so you can connect them to a standard desktop to work
  on them or copy to/from...
  
  My CF-27 has no cdrom, but XP can be loaded in a similar process more
  or less, however the folder involved is the I386 folder from the
  install cd...  The CF27 will take a lot bigger drive than 2
  gigs. I think mine is a 60 split in 2 partitionsOne DOS
  fat32, on XP NTFS
  
  Doug
  KD8B
  
  
  
  
  
  At 07:21 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:
  
   Have you found one yet?
   
   *I May* have a CF27 up for sale. Bought it ironically at a hamfest 2
   weekends ago here in ATL. I LOVE the laptop. The only thing is that
   I am having a heck of a time getting at least Win98 on the drive. No
   CD drive. USB drive though. It came with a drive that had Lynx
   (sp?)on it that was not really functioning. Needed something to use
   with the program to program the Arcom RC210 with. Everything seems to
   work on it, but the drive did take a dive. I had another drive (2gig)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

2008-06-17 Thread Doug Bade
A simple solution to your dilemma is to pull the drive and connect it 
with a $12.00 adapter to a modern 3.5 ide drive bay desktop computer, 
format the drive as fat32,copy the win98se directory off of the cdrom 
to the 2.5 laptop drive.. stick the laptop drive back into the 
laptop.. boot from a dos boot floppy made in xp, and execute the 
setup program on the hard drive in the windows directory... you do 
not need the cdrom if you have all the cab files

Most decent computer stores offer 2.5 (laptop) drive adapters either 
to USB or IDE so you can connect them to a standard desktop to work 
on them or copy to/from...

My CF-27 has no cdrom, but XP can be loaded in a similar process more 
or less, however the folder involved is the I386 folder from the 
install cd...  The CF27 will take a lot bigger drive than 2 
gigs. I think mine is a 60 split in 2 partitionsOne DOS 
fat32, on XP NTFS

Doug
KD8B





At 07:21 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:

Have you found one yet?

*I May* have a CF27 up for sale. Bought it ironically at a hamfest 2
weekends ago here in ATL. I LOVE the laptop. The only thing is that
I am having a heck of a time getting at least Win98 on the drive. No
CD drive. USB drive though. It came with a drive that had Lynx
(sp?)on it that was not really functioning. Needed something to use
with the program to program the Arcom RC210 with. Everything seems to
work on it, but the drive did take a dive. I had another drive (2gig)



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

2008-06-15 Thread georgiaskywarn
Have you found one yet?

*I May* have a CF27 up for sale.  Bought it ironically at a hamfest 2
weekends ago here in ATL.  I LOVE the laptop.  The only thing is that
I am having a heck of a time getting at least Win98 on the drive. No
CD drive.  USB drive though.  It came with a drive that had Lynx
(sp?)on it that was not really functioning.  Needed something to use
with the program to program the Arcom RC210 with.  Everything seems to
work on it, but the drive did take a dive.  I had another drive (2gig)
that seems to work...if I could get it loaded with something! ;-)  I
was putting the drive into another computer to get something that
would give me a usb port driver.  Unfortunately I needed at least
Win95b...and it was just a comedy of errors (and 29 disk later).

I have $50. in it.  I let it go for that with whatever shipping cost.
 I think I have some bubble wrap and boxes that might fit it.  Battery
seems to hold a couple of hours (I think...never timed it when it
died).  Brand new supply that works fine. 

I have another laptop that has a cd drive, built in speakers (would
like to hear tail beeps, etc thru it before loading it), etc.  I hate
to part with it, but at this point...if I can get this pent.90 Toshiba
to work...I am going with this.  Will know probably in a couple of days.  

Let me know if your interested.  Otherwise going to put it on
Ebay...and know I will get more for it ;-)
73,
Robert 
KD4YDC




--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Wade
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good evening everyone,
 
  Subject says it all.  Thought I had one lined up but the
 seller flaked.  Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my
 MT-1000 and Spectras.
 
  Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.
 
   Thanks!  Dennis
 
 -- 
 Dennis L. Wade
 KG6ZI
 Carmichael, CA





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

2008-06-15 Thread georgiaskywarn
Sorry about that!
Sometimes you just wish to reach into cyberspace and grab em' before
they go  Meant to send that direct.
Sorry,
rb


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, georgiaskywarn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Have you found one yet?
 
 *I May* have a CF27 up for sale.  Bought it ironically at a hamfest 2
 weekends ago here in ATL.  I LOVE the laptop.  The only thing is that
 I am having a heck of a time getting at least Win98 on the drive. No
 CD drive.  USB drive though.  It came with a drive that had Lynx
 (sp?)on it that was not really functioning.  Needed something to use
 with the program to program the Arcom RC210 with.  Everything seems to
 work on it, but the drive did take a dive.  I had another drive (2gig)
 that seems to work...if I could get it loaded with something! ;-)  I
 was putting the drive into another computer to get something that
 would give me a usb port driver.  Unfortunately I needed at least
 Win95b...and it was just a comedy of errors (and 29 disk later).
 
 I have $50. in it.  I let it go for that with whatever shipping cost.
  I think I have some bubble wrap and boxes that might fit it.  Battery
 seems to hold a couple of hours (I think...never timed it when it
 died).  Brand new supply that works fine. 
 
 I have another laptop that has a cd drive, built in speakers (would
 like to hear tail beeps, etc thru it before loading it), etc.  I hate
 to part with it, but at this point...if I can get this pent.90 Toshiba
 to work...I am going with this.  Will know probably in a couple of
days.  
 
 Let me know if your interested.  Otherwise going to put it on
 Ebay...and know I will get more for it ;-)
 73,
 Robert 
 KD4YDC
 
 
 
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Wade
 sacramento.cyclist@ wrote:
 
  Good evening everyone,
  
   Subject says it all.  Thought I had one lined up but the
  seller flaked.  Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my
  MT-1000 and Spectras.
  
   Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.
  
Thanks!  Dennis
  
  -- 
  Dennis L. Wade
  KG6ZI
  Carmichael, CA
 





[Repeater-Builder] Re: Wanted to buy: Panasonic CF-25 laptop or equivalent for radio programmming

2008-06-14 Thread m0hlm
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Wade 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good evening everyone,
 
  Subject says it all.  Thought I had one lined up but the
 seller flaked.  Need a CF-25 Toughbook or equivalent to program my
 MT-1000 and Spectras.
 
  Let me know what you've got plus shipping to 95608.
 
   Thanks!  Dennis
 
 -- 
 Dennis L. Wade
 KG6ZI
 Carmichael, CA

Hi Dennis ,my Name is Harry and I got 2 of the CF25. I want if that 
is ok for £25-. each. Also I have to find out the pp what you have 
to pay as well (soory).Send me an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]