Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-27 Thread Rob
My personal experience with Radio Mobile has been very good. I have done about 30 different amateur and commercial transmitter/repeater plots with this free software and it has predicted coverage exceedingly well. I have taken most of my RM plots and field verified them myself. The other side

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-27 Thread Doug
I would agree with every word...a bit of time and it does the job well. Doug - Original Message - From: Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile? My personal

[Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-27 Thread Lloyd M. Mitchell
2005 1:54 PMSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?My personal experience with Radio Mobile has been very good. I have done about 30 different amateur and commercial transmitter/repeater plots with this free software and it has predicted coverage exceedingly well. I have taken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-27 Thread no6b
At 11/27/2005 08:03, you wrote: I've found that Radio Mobile is very accurate. maybe not 100% but very, very close in my usage. (mobile VHF 50w to repeaters/bases in eastern SC) I do model my mobiles with unity gain antennas to give me cushion with actual usage(gain antennas). Even when

RE: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-27 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
I keep hearing about this better data from commercial propagation software but can't find any reference to it on any of their marketing material nor references to how they actually do it -- even assuming it's proprietary, I don't even see hints about it anywhere. A lot of the original 30

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-27 Thread Lloyd M. Mitchell
Hm I'm using the older versionI N T E R E S T I N G.any other comments on the newer versionmaybe we should take this the RadioMobile Group..Lloyd KD4HTW[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11/27/2005 08:03, you wrote:I've found that Radio Mobile is very accurate. maybe not 100% but

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-27 Thread no6b
The new version does have some nice features, so I keep both around for now. You should download the new version try running a comparative set of plots. Initially they will not agree at all due to the change in the way urban or city loss is implemented (simple checkbox in old version,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-27 Thread Nate Duehr
Jeff DePolo WN3A wrote: [snipped Jeff's long detailed reply...] Thanks Jeff, that was very informative for someone who's never used the commercial software. I still wish someone would do head to head comparisons against all the packages sometime, but I doubt anyone will. Head to head

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-27 Thread kd6hcn
Nate, I did a h 2 h comp with the commercial s/w I have purchased for well over $10K a few years ago. The results were far more accurate with RM than the commercial stuff a few years old, and better yet it was FREE from a fellow ham radio operator. Hence my original posting regarding the use of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-27 Thread no6b
At 11/27/2005 08:49, you wrote: There is also a new data set from SRTM (the Shuttle Radar Topography Mission) where a majority of the earth's surface was measured using microwave interferometry. The accuracy isn't necessarily superior to existing data (I think 50 feet was the predicted elevation

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-26 Thread Eric Lemmon
Bob, I cannot state that Radio Mobile is not as accurate as a commercial program. However, the commercial programs use digital elevation models that have been extensively refined with additional data points and calibrations that are not provided by the NGS. It is this value-added aspect that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-26 Thread Paul Kelley
I guess it doesn't really make much difference how accurate a propagation program is, since the Hams I know who have used Radio Mobile or similar programs, simply put the computed coverage plot on the wall and proudly proclaim that it represents the coverage of their particular station. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-26 Thread Nate Duehr
Eric Lemmon wrote: Bob, I cannot state that Radio Mobile is not as accurate as a commercial program. However, the commercial programs use digital elevation models that have been extensively refined with additional data points and calibrations that are not provided by the NGS. It is this

Re: [Repeater-Builder] How Accurate is Radio Mobile?

2005-11-26 Thread no6b
At 11/26/2005 16:55, you wrote: Bob, I cannot state that Radio Mobile is not as accurate as a commercial program. Well, IMO the remainder of your post attempts to implicitly bash RM in many ways. Fair enough - it would be foolish for any multi-million dollar corporation to try to save $10k on