Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-16 Thread wd8chl
Nate Duehr wrote: Hmm... My Kenwood TH-F6A (I assume that's what you mean by F6) does NOT respond to RB from anything I've tried. How old is yours? (Perhaps a change?) Don't remember now...3-4 yrs maybe??? Batt date code is J14A if that helps... You sure the repeater you're listening to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-12 Thread wd8chl
Nate Duehr wrote: Sure wish ham manufacturers would get on the ball on this feature and get it in the ham rigs. It's only been a decade or so now... all of our repeaters do it... the rigs don't know how to decode it, and I refuse to mess with chicken burst. I just use real radios, and it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-12 Thread Nate Duehr
FWIW-my wife and I have some newer Kenwoods. Both the G71 and F6 respond to factory Micor r/b and the 7330 r/b properly, as well as most every commercial system that has it too. The G707 responds to the Micor and 7330, but doesn't always do some of the others. The somewhat older 742 doesn't like

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-12 Thread no6b
At 11/12/2009 06:41, you wrote: FWIW-my wife and I have some newer Kenwoods. Both the G71 and F6 respond to factory Micor r/b and the 7330 r/b properly, as well as most every commercial system that has it too. The G707 responds to the Micor and 7330, but doesn't always do some of the others. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-11 Thread Jim Brown
: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 5:15 PM   It's been since the late 1950's that reverse burst has been around for PL tones. So for over 50 years the ham manufacturers

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-11 Thread Nate Duehr
MACKEY jmac...@usa.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 5:15 PM It's been since the late 1950's that reverse burst has been around for PL tones. So for over 50 years the ham manufacturers

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-11 Thread skipp025
In the example the most practical way to link the two repeaters would be to install a single remote base radio onto one of the repeaters. Connections and control are simple... s. Jerry gdste...@... wrote: There have been times when during events it would have been great if two different

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-11 Thread Jim Brown
and one was stronger than the other. 73 - Jim  W5ZIT --- On Tue, 11/10/09, larynl2 lar...@hotmail.com wrote: From: larynl2 lar...@hotmail.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 7:38 PM

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-10 Thread Jerry
Thanks for the ideas. I really can't add radios to the existing sites as we don't always know which systems will be linked. I'll have to check to see how many of our local repeaters drop their encoded pl after the input drops. If the pl drops right away, I think your solutions will be the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-10 Thread Nate Duehr
Yes, as Jerry points out, doing all of this with ex-commercial rigs means you'll have Reverse Burst or Squelch Tail Elimination, which are both very adequately documented on the Repeater-Builder website. (They are two different things, technically... different number of degrees of phase shift on

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-10 Thread JOHN MACKEY
It's been since the late 1950's that reverse burst has been around for PL tones. So for over 50 years the ham manufacturers haven't gotten on board yet. -- Original Message -- Sure wish ham manufacturers would get on the ball on this feature and get it in the ham rigs. It's only been

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-10 Thread DCFluX
That is because it is patented by Motorola. Please refer to US Patent #3,584,304 US Patent #3,628,058 also describes the squelch circuit used in the Micor and even gives a schematic for the M6709. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:15 PM, JOHN MACKEY jmac...@usa.net wrote: It's been since the late

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-10 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:29:23PM -0700, DCFluX wrote: That is because it is patented by Motorola. Please refer to US Patent #3,584,304 US Patent #3,628,058 also describes the squelch circuit used in the Micor and even gives a schematic for the M6709. Patents are only a 17 year

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-10 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Nate Duehr wrote: Sure wish ham manufacturers would get on the ball on this feature and get it in the ham rigs. It's only been a decade or so now... all of our repeaters do it... the rigs don't know how to decode it, and I refuse to mess with chicken burst. I just use

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-10 Thread no6b
At 11/10/2009 15:29, you wrote: That is because it is patented by Motorola. Please refer to US Patent #3,584,304 US Patent #3,628,058 also describes the squelch circuit used in the Micor and even gives a schematic for the M6709. The latter really gives you a new appreciation for the engineering

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-10 Thread larynl2
In-band RF linking on the user input frequencies is a kludge at best. It can double with users, and has other timing problems... Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@... Nate, just a comment on the above. We've used in-band on-channel (IBOC??) linking to a nearby repeater for weather nets for many moons

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Linking Repeaters Remotely

2009-11-10 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 10, 2009, at 6:38 PM, larynl2 wrote: In-band RF linking on the user input frequencies is a kludge at best. It can double with users, and has other timing problems... Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@... Nate, just a comment on the above. We've used in-band on-channel (IBOC??) linking to