Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-22 Thread wd8chl
BTW, here's a link to a web site done by a DC comm's lawyer. Yes, he has the 'disclaimers' not to use it as 'legal advice', but you can beturbut it's right. http://www.narrowbandinglaw.com/faqs.html It's the second last question. There is a link in the answer to the FCC order involved, but of

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-22 Thread briansoehl
By the way..any Kenwood radios that have the sufix G (as in TK-830G) are programmable for wide/narrow. The TK-830 is ONLY capable of wideband. That's the reason I choose the TK-830G. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, wd8chl wd8...@... wrote: BTW, here's a link to a web site

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-22 Thread skipp025
Hello back, I've been in direct contact with the FCC regarding the legal operation of wide band type certified in narrow band service both before and after the narrow band mandate. The key issue seems to be the mention of any hardware modifications to the existing equipment, which are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-22 Thread wd8chl
On 3/22/2010 10:25 AM, briansoehl wrote: By the way..any Kenwood radios that have the sufix G (as in TK-830G) are programmable for wide/narrow. The TK-830 is ONLY capable of wideband. That's the reason I choose the TK-830G. Yeah-I remember getting a bunch of 350G's. That was right as

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-19 Thread wb6dgn
Except for one thing-the x20 series radios weren't type accepted for narrowband, and the FCC has already said that if that's the case, it won't fly. The last time around, when a manufacturer wished to provide a narrow banding kit for a previously type accepted radio, they applied to the FCC

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-17 Thread skipp025
Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's Why would you want to? Surplus Kenwood TKR-820 units are readily available for $300 and less. I have seen at least 30 sold in last 3 months on eBay. These purposes built units have the power supply, interface, BEEFY heat sinks for the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-17 Thread wd8chl
On 3/17/2010 12:06 PM, skipp025 wrote: 50 cent plug... When Narrow Banding is officially jammed down our throats... I stock and sell the factory Narrow Band Kits for the TKR-720 and the TKR-820 Repeaters... Except for one thing-the x20 series radios weren't type accepted for narrowband,

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-17 Thread skipp025
wd8chl wd8...@... wrote: Except for one thing-the x20 series radios weren't type accepted for narrowband, and the FCC has already said that if that's the case, it won't fly. Based on my direct in-person conversations with FCC Agents, simply reducing the transmit deviation to narrow

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-17 Thread wd8chl
On 3/17/2010 2:45 PM, skipp025 wrote: wd8chlwd8...@... wrote: Except for one thing-the x20 series radios weren't type accepted for narrowband, and the FCC has already said that if that's the case, it won't fly. Based on my direct in-person conversations with FCC Agents, simply reducing

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread Greg Beat
Why would you want to? Surplus Kenwood TKR-820 units are readily available for $300 and less. I have seen at least 30 sold in last 3 months on eBay. These purposes built units have the power supply, interface, BEEFY heat sinks for the TX RF transistors and sometimes even the UHF duplexer ! I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread Mark
I'll second Greg's observations about the TKR-820. I am using one as the primary repeater (exciter/driver) for my club's 440 machine in NE Illinois. It is a 25W station - turned down to about 7W to drive a 150W Crescend PA - and doesn't even really get warm at that power level. It's been in

[Repeater-Builder] Re:building a repeater out of 2 Kenwood TK-830G's

2010-03-16 Thread skipp025
Greg Beat gregory.b...@... wrote: Why would you want to? Surplus Kenwood TKR-820 units are readily available for $300 and less. I have seen at least 30 sold in last 3 months on eBay. These purposes built units have the power supply, interface, BEEFY heat sinks for the TX RF