Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-22 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, Paul Plack wrote: > But if I hear one more salesman call 3 kHz / 8-bit digital sampling > "CD quality," I think I'll scream! I wasn't aware there were that many salesmen that were hard of hearing or perhaps completely suckered in by whoever sold them thier stereo... -- Kris

[Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-22 Thread Paul Plack
pling "CD quality," I think I'll scream! 73 - Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: n9wys To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage No, Ron. I think it's more a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-22 Thread Paul Plack
anies...younger techs don't have this intuitive grasp of propagation. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: n9wys To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage No, the complaints start

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-21 Thread Richard
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage On Nov 21, 2007, at 12:03 AM, JOHN MACKEY wrote: > The sysops are probably not registering their information. That is > an option > in echolink. EchoIRLP node operators also have to go into the configurati

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-21 Thread Ron Wright
Nate, It works both ways. Knew there would be "doesn't tell the whole story" comment. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/21 Wed PM 02:01:54 CST >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Rep

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-21 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 21, 2007, at 12:03 AM, JOHN MACKEY wrote: > The sysops are probably not registering their information. That is > an option > in echolink. EchoIRLP node operators also have to go into the configuration files and set up AVRS support in tbd for that web page to work to find their Echo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-21 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 21, 2007, at 5:05 AM, Ron Wright wrote: > Anyone checked the number of Echolink vs IRLP stations??? Yep, but it doesn't tell the whole story. Millions of dead or not-set- up-correctly EchoLink stations makes that network quite chaotic. Try listing the number of stations that are part

Re: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-21 Thread Ron Wright
Anyone checked the number of Echolink vs IRLP stations??? 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/21 Wed AM 01:01:57 CST >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
The sysops are probably not registering their information. That is an option in echolink. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:17:15 AM CST From: "ldgelectronics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wi

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
That section of the Echolink web site has been there for at least 2 years. It works well enough for me. -- Original Message -- Received: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:28:10 AM CST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-20 Thread no6b
At 11/20/2007 21:23, you wrote: >I did try it with Echolink, Bob!! It worked very well to find nodes in a >specified area using this link on the Echolink web site: > >http://www.echolink.org/links.asp That's an improvement; on my last trip there was no lat/lon i

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-20 Thread ldgelectronics
on the Echolink web site: > > http://www.echolink.org/links.asp > > > -- Original Message -- > Received: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:32:14 PM CST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage >

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage > At 11/20/2007 00:49, you wrote: > > >I find basically the same problem with eQSO, WIRES, and IRLP. > > I can't speak for eQSO or WIRES, but there really is no comparison between > IRLP & Echolink when it

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-20 Thread no6b
At 11/20/2007 00:49, you wrote: >I find basically the same problem with eQSO, WIRES, and IRLP. I can't speak for eQSO or WIRES, but there really is no comparison between IRLP & Echolink when it comes to locating nodes. IRLP has a very nice set of web-based utilities that, for example, let you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
other location information data to anyone, including the repeater coordination counil. -- Original Message -- Received: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:17:09 AM CST From: Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-20 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 20, 2007, at 1:49 AM, JOHN MACKEY wrote: > I find basically the same problem with eQSO, WIRES, and IRLP. > > -- Original Message -- > Received: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:03:44 AM CST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > SNIP >> I personally find Echolink totally useless while on travel. Too >>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
-- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:18:40 AM CST From: Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SNIP > Your choice. Back then, EchoLink wasn't even checking that people > downloading the software and getting registered even had licenses. > That changed that many years later, to

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-20 Thread JOHN MACKEY
I find basically the same problem with eQSO, WIRES, and IRLP. -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:03:44 AM CST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SNIP > I personally find Echolink totally useless while on travel. Too hard to > find nodes because the locations aren't properly catalo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 19, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Ron Wright wrote: > Our local IRLP systems would be repeatedly disconnected by IRLP > sysops when non-related subjects came up. And these subjects were > not controversial, but more like how the beach was that day. It was > discouraging. > > We got reports from

RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread n9wys
was talking about, hi. >From: n9wys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/18 Sun PM 09:46:48 CST >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage > > >I’ve got RM and used it for the pastseveral years. Quite a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread n9wys
Thanks, Nate! ;-) Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Nate Duehr On Nov 18, 2007, at 8:46 PM, n9wys wrote: > Unfortunately, I need to attach the coverage plots to a 2x4 so I can > whack some of my users up-side the head with it in order

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Corey Dean N3FE
unban within 10 minutes though Corey N3FE -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 5:20 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread JOHN MACKEY
That is exactly why I operate my own repeaters, with my own internet gateways. -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:39:18 PM CST From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage > Yep, the non-do-ers that want it

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Bill
hr > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:21 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage > > > On Nov 18, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Bill wrote: > > > I kinda agree. Get used to the infrastructure systems and you can't >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 18, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Bill wrote: > I kinda agree. Get used to the infrastructure systems and you can’t > make a contact when it goes down, that’s when the complaining > starts. i.e. cellphones and isp problems. Heck that’s when real > amateur radio can shine! Heck, the complaint

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 19, 2007, at 3:09 PM, wb6ymh wrote: > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> Our local IRLP systems would be repeatedly disconnected by IRLP > sysops when non-related subjects came up. And these subjects were not > controversial, but more

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread wb6ymh
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Our local IRLP systems would be repeatedly disconnected by IRLP sysops when non-related subjects came up. And these subjects were not controversial, but more like how the beach was that day. It was discouraging. >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Laryn Lohman
Definitely not true. I've been involved with the local node for a number of years as a user and tech and never heard, or read about anything like that. Laryn K8TVZ --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use Echolink because IRLP was so picky about

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread no6b
At 11/19/2007 06:50, you wrote: >Our local IRLP systems would be repeatedly disconnected by IRLP sysops >when non-related subjects came up. And these subjects were not >controversial, but more like how the beach was that day. It was discouraging. Chances are you were connected to a reflector ch

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Ron Wright
ehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/19 Mon AM 08:20:52 CST >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage > > >On Nov 19, 2007, at 5:25 AM, Ron Wright wrote: > >> >> I use Echolink because IRLP was so p

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 19, 2007, at 5:25 AM, Ron Wright wrote: > > I use Echolink because IRLP was so picky about conversation > content. Ham Radio topics only. We talk a lot more than just Ham > Radio related topics. > Not sure what you're talking about, there are no posted topic restrictions anywhere

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 19, 2007, at 2:30 AM, JOHN MACKEY wrote: > In the past Dave (VE7LTD) was completely unwilling to allow PC users > from > accessing a repeater. Has this changed? Years ago, but your node owner has to install it, and the PC can connect to only one node at a time, not Reflectors. Proba

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Ron Wright
sales is 1/2 about the product and 1/2 BS (not the degree). His sales record showed he knew what he was talking about, hi. >From: n9wys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/18 Sun PM 09:46:48 CST >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder]

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Ron Wright
>From: JOHN MACKEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/19 Mon AM 03:30:02 CST >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage > >In the past Dave (VE7LTD) was completely unwilling to allow PC users from >acce

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage > > On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:01 PM, George Henry wrote: > > > Couple of big differences between D-Star, IRLP and Echolink: > > > > With Echolink,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:01 PM, George Henry wrote: > Couple of big differences between D-Star, IRLP and Echolink: > > With Echolink, any licensed amateur with a soundcard-equipped > computer and > an internet connection can connect to an Echolink-enabled repeater. > With > IRLP and D-Star, yo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-19 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 18, 2007, at 8:46 PM, n9wys wrote: > Unfortunately, I need to attach the coverage plots to a 2x4 so I can > whack some of my users up-side the head with it in order to get the > point across. They just don’t understand ... The Readysnitch and Wouff Hong are standing by for your use a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread George Henry
George, KA3HSW - Original Message - From: "Ron Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage > Steve, > > I think this is what is misunderstood by most repeater owners and users is >

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread n9wys
I've got RM and used it for the past several years. Quite a learning curve with it, but for a free piece of software it is very comprehensive and has served me very well! Unfortunately, I need to attach the coverage plots to a 2x4 so I can whack some of my users up-side the head with it in ord

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread John Barrett
e problems !! _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n9wys Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage No, the complaints start when they can't hear/access the mac

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread n9wys
No, the complaints start when they can't hear/access the machine everywhere with a full quieting signal. It's amazing that some amateur licensees still don't understand signal propagation. But now I'm starting to get WAY off-topic. 73 de Mark - N9WYS _ From: Repeater-Buil

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread Bill
craps out. William A. Collister N7MOG _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Barrett Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:03 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread no6b
At 11/18/2007 06:50, you wrote: >Imagine your 2M or 70CM base station were on a tall, tall, tower and you >can key and operate any one of 140 different repeaters world wide, no >noise, static, etc. > >Thats DSTAR today. That's also IRLP & Echolink today, albeit with much greater coverage. Bob NO

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread Ron Wright
@yahoogroups.com" >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage > >Imagine your 2M or 70CM base station were on a tall, tall, tower and you >can key and operate any one of 140 different repeaters world wide, no >noise, static, etc. > >Thats DSTAR tod

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread John Barrett
-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D) Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage Imagine your 2M or 70CM base station were on a

[Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-18 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Imagine your 2M or 70CM base station were on a tall, tall, tower and you can key and operate any one of 140 different repeaters world wide, no noise, static, etc. Thats DSTAR today. From Hawaii to Alaska, to Vancouver to Ottawa, to Los Angeles, to London, to Berlin to Venice, to Darwin, AU. T

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide area coverage

2007-01-08 Thread Juan Tellez
@yahoogroups.com Asunto: [Repeater-Builder] Wide area coverage Hello all, I am Allen, senior radio technician, working in Africa, new member. I have extensive experience in trunking systems, but not very good with conventional. I would like to know the best method to link 4 repeaters (conventional) to work

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide area coverage

2007-01-08 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
I have used Spoke and Hub system. Several 146 Mhz repeaters cross connected to 440 Mhz control stations, all looking at the same 440 repeater for distrubution between the different 144 Mhz repeaters. Steve NU5D On 1/7/07, allenittiyavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello all, I am Allen, seni

[Repeater-Builder] Wide area coverage

2007-01-08 Thread allenittiyavira
Hello all, I am Allen, senior radio technician, working in Africa, new member. I have extensive experience in trunking systems, but not very good with conventional. I would like to know the best method to link 4 repeaters (conventional) to work as one channel. Are link radios the best method? (