Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 23 May 2010, Tim - WD6AWP wrote: I have a small amount white noise on the TX of a Micor repeater. It is most noticeable in the hang time but it's not coming from the controller. It's still there with the controller completely removed and pressing PTT on the station control card.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for UHF power module

2010-05-23 Thread Gareth Bennett
Pacific have been out of Kenwood for ages, Best bet is to contact Kenwood directly, or try RF Parts.com in the states. Before you do that, check if the power module has in fact Spat the dummy as many of the TKR-720 and 820's suffered from dry joints in the PA stage. So firstly I would suck up,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Doug Hutchison
Hi Tim, Might the RX be hearing the TX? Doug - GM7SVK On 23/05/2010 04:10:37, Tim - WD6AWP (tisaw...@gmail.com) wrote: I have a small amount white noise on the TX of a Micor repeater. It is most noticeable in the hang time but it's not coming from the controller. It's still there with the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need source for UHF power module

2010-05-23 Thread Gyro
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I had this on a Mastr II and solved it by adding a resistor across the audio input to the exciter - I think I used a 100K, but you could experiment. It originally sounded like squelch noise leakage, but it wasn't. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Tim - WD6AWP

Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread no6b
At 5/22/2010 21:10, you wrote: I have a small amount white noise on the TX of a Micor repeater. It is most noticeable in the hang time but it's not coming from the controller. It's still there with the controller completely removed and pressing PTT on the station control card. It's more

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need source for UHF power module

2010-05-23 Thread skipp025
http://www.rfparts.com/module_m.html#m57704el Otherwise I might have on in stock somewhere... but right now it wouldn't be an easy find for me. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com Authorized Kenwood Service Station (and Sales). www.radiowrench.com --- In

Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Tim Sawyer
Yes, it has a stock Motorola PL encode board. I think the noise was there before I installed it. -- :wq Tim

[Repeater-Builder] Re: White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Tim - WD6AWP
That seems unlikely I don't hear it in the local speaker. There is no detectable desense or other noise on the RX signal. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Doug Hutchison specialq@... wrote: Might the RX be hearing the TX?

[Repeater-Builder] White noise

2010-05-23 Thread kevin
Just curious. Have you put a scope on the power supply to check the AC component during transmit. A degraded filter cap or even a transistor with a small amount of leakage will generate what seems to be a touch of white noise under considerable load. Might seem too simple, but it happens alot.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Thomas Oliver
Has the noise been there all along? It may be just the nature of the beast. There is an article on the RB web site about modifying a mobile audio squelch board to work in a base/repeater station, one of the benifits to doing so is the better muting of audio from the receiver, this is because

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need source for UHF power module

2010-05-23 Thread tracomm
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Tom, I believe he said that with the controller disconnected, and using local PTT, it still does it. That should take the receiver completely out of the equation, leaving only the exciter as the likely culprit. I'd suggested adding a resistor from ground to audio high on the exciter to see if

RE: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Eric Lemmon
Has it been established whether the Micor station was originally built as a repeater, or is it a base station that has been converted into a repeater? A repeater station comes with a great deal of filter components added to the two interconnect boards, as well as extra shielding over the unified

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for UHF power module

2010-05-23 Thread P Grant
Hello Byron, The M57729 is a standard Motorola PA Slab. Yours is the Kenwood Part number, M57729h-01-P. The standard Motorola module will be available off the shelf,,, BUT,,, it will be priced @ $230.oo US. Any equivalent Motorola, or spurious part [30W UHF] will do the job, much

Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Thomas Oliver
Chuck, I did over look that part about being disconnected. Is it present when you have a full quieting signal on the rx input? He may still have an audio path feeding the tx. How about pulling the audio squelch board and trying the local ptt? tom On 5/23/2010 12:54 PM, Chuck Kelsey wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for UHF power module

2010-05-23 Thread David Struebel
RF Parts in California lists the M57729 for $ 68 (US) http://www.rfparts.com/module_m.html#m57704el Dave WB2FTX - Original Message - From: P Grant To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for UHF

Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Chuck Kelsey
He indicated that in repeat it was better (less white noise) with an incoming signal, then got worse on the tail. Then he disconnected the controller and still had white noise with local PTT. To me that hints of the exciter not liking a high impedance input, or no load on the mic input.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Need source for UHF power module

2010-05-23 Thread Eric Lemmon
Be careful about getting the proper replacement part. The basic M57729, without a suffix letter, is for 430-450 MHz. The M57729L is for 400-420 MHz, and the M57729H is for 450-470 MHz. There are other versions, with different suffixes, for other UHF bands. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Larry Horlick
Would the same apply to an MSF2000 base station converted to a repeater? lh On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote: Has it been established whether the Micor station was originally built as a repeater, or is it a base station that has been converted into a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Eric Lemmon
Larry, I know about MSR2000 and MSF5000 stations, but I've never heard of an MSF2000. Most stations that are built for simplex (base) operation lack the filtering that is standard in duplex (repeater) operation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From:

[Repeater-Builder] Racom Station Identifier

2010-05-23 Thread mzfb2001
Hi all I have a Racom 1300 morse code station Identifier. I am looking to see if there is a way to reprogram the Prom in the unit. The company is no longer active. The prom contains the call sign information. I know I could throw it in the trash and buy something new but I hate doing that

[Repeater-Builder] Moto GR-1225

2010-05-23 Thread k6kusman
Hello all. I have a GR1225 that seems to work just fine except for one lil problem.. It will quite often stay keyed up after the signal or local mic is released. The only way to clear it is to shut it down and turn it back on.. Then it's good for like 10 sec's and does it again. It won't do it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Thomas Oliver
A resistor certainly would be easy enough to try. As would popping in a spare exciter if he has one. tom On 5/23/2010 3:01 PM, Chuck Kelsey wrote: He indicated that in repeat it was better (less white noise) with an incoming signal, then got worse on the tail. Then he disconnected the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Moto GR-1225

2010-05-23 Thread Eric Lemmon
Many early models of the GR1225 desktop repeater were delivered with RG-58 cable in the internal duplexer harnesses, which led to desensing and lockup. The problem becomes worse if carrier squelch is used. I was able to cure that problem by fabricating new harnesses with RG400 double-shielded

[Repeater-Builder] GE Master

2010-05-23 Thread Leroy A. M. Baptiste
Any of you guys had any experiences in using a GE Master Executive 11 as a repeater, and would you recommend it. Leroy J39AI

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Master

2010-05-23 Thread Chuck Kelsey
GE MasterThe Exec II has been used for lots of repeaters. Work well. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Leroy A. M. Baptiste To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 6:17 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] GE Master Any of you guys had any

Re: [Repeater-Builder] White Noise on Micor TX

2010-05-23 Thread Larry Horlick
Eric, I'm usually dyslexic on Yundas! It's a MSR2000. About 12 years ago I converted a base station variant to a repeater. As I recall I had some difficulty configuring it; i.e. there were some jumpers to add and remove, but thus puppy has been trucking along at a very busy site and nary a

[Repeater-Builder] MOTO R1225 QUESTION

2010-05-23 Thread n2len
Would it make a difference if I lower the high power setting from 45 watts down to 15 watts to drive a external TPL amplifier or the low power setting from 20 to 15?

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Lost 10 volts in a Master II UHF Repeater

2010-05-23 Thread Ben
Got it working! I had already swapped all the cards with my working spare repeater and there was no change. Went back up on the hill and pretty much pulled the cards, looked at the back plane, put the cards back in and fired it up...came right on! Strange. I've had a problem with this