About 6414843 SUNWonbld shouldn't install sgml man pages / was: Re: [request-sponsor] Many SUNWonbld related fixes

2006-08-30 Thread Roland Mainz
Rainer Orth wrote:
 Roland Mainz writes:
  Rainer Orth wrote:
 6414843 SUNWonbld shouldn't install sgml man pages
 
  What is your intended fix ? IMO Solaris should finally switch to
  DocBook/(SGML|XML) manual pages for all tools if possible, therefore it
  may be nice to simply move the manual page to sman1/ and avoid the
  conversion to the old troff format...
 
 My current plan is to convert the few SGML man pages in SUNWonbld to nroff
 on the fly and install those to avoid having two different man page formats
 in a single package.

Umpf... that's actually reverse of the way how it should be done..
... about how many manual pages are we talking here ? One ? Three ? 20 ?
I may be able to convert 1-3 by hand if we get rid of the
xx@@@!!-nroff workaround...

 Once the other man pages with nroff source have been converted to SGML,
 that can be revised.
 
 It may be worthwhile to consider what to do with the man pages in SUNWman,
 btw.  For some time, they were delivered in SGML format, but later the
 package switched back to delivering the nroff form generated from that
 only.  I think that was done because some of the necessary tools were not
 easily/publicly available, but I recall that this has changed/is changing
 in the Documentation community.  But that's certainly much better to
 discuss on docs-discuss.

Erm... AFAIK the tools were available since a long time. The SolBook DTD
isn't very different from DocBook and smaller items can be done by
hand...



Bye,
Roland

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About 6414843 SUNWonbld shouldn't install sgml man pages / was: Re: [request-sponsor] Many SUNWonbld related fixes

2006-05-10 Thread Rainer Orth
Roland Mainz writes:

 Rainer Orth wrote:
6414843 SUNWonbld shouldn't install sgml man pages
 
 What is your intended fix ? IMO Solaris should finally switch to
 DocBook/(SGML|XML) manual pages for all tools if possible, therefore it
 may be nice to simply move the manual page to sman1/ and avoid the
 conversion to the old troff format...

My current plan is to convert the few SGML man pages in SUNWonbld to nroff
on the fly and install those to avoid having two different man page formats
in a single package.

Once the other man pages with nroff source have been converted to SGML,
that can be revised.

It may be worthwhile to consider what to do with the man pages in SUNWman,
btw.  For some time, they were delivered in SGML format, but later the
package switched back to delivering the nroff form generated from that
only.  I think that was done because some of the necessary tools were not
easily/publicly available, but I recall that this has changed/is changing
in the Documentation community.  But that's certainly much better to
discuss on docs-discuss.

Rainer

-
Rainer Orth, Faculty of Technology, Bielefeld University



About 6414843 SUNWonbld shouldn't install sgml man pages / was: Re: [request-sponsor] Many SUNWonbld related fixes

2006-05-09 Thread Susan Weber
If you need help with man page formats, etc., feel free to contact me or 
cross-post
to docs-discuss.

-Sue Weber
 (Documentation Program Manager, OpenSolaris)

Roland Mainz wrote:

Rainer Orth wrote:
  

  6414843 SUNWonbld shouldn't install sgml man pages



What is your intended fix ? IMO Solaris should finally switch to
DocBook/(SGML|XML) manual pages for all tools if possible, therefore it
may be nice to simply move the manual page to sman1/ and avoid the
conversion to the old troff format...



Bye,
Roland