Re: AIT drives

2000-03-09 Thread jakob krabbe



AIT = Advanced Intelligent Tape.

1. I belive this have been discussed before, but please correct me if I'm
wrong when I say Retrospect doesn't take advantage of the chiptechnology
inside those tapes.

2. Would it be wise (possible??) to cycle those tapes in six or eight week
periods? (We have cd backups for the archive.)

3. It is possible to connect and use the drive to a computer that just have
the regular SCSI or dose the drive demand Wide SCSI to work at all?

thanx,

/ jakob


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KVM Switchboxes and Backup Server

2000-03-09 Thread Greg Jewett


All..

Is anyone else out there using Belkin OmniView Pro KVM 
(Keyboard-Video-Mouse) switch-boxes with their Mac and PC Backup 
Servers, as well as other servers?

Some background --

At Motorola, we have a large investment in these switch-boxes, to 
control all of our servers in the racks that we have, mainly because 
the 8-port boxes can be daisy-chained to allow for 127 devices.  Now, 
we have not actually gotten that far, but we do have at least 2-3 
boxes daisy-chained.

We have multiple 3-shelf, 150-200 foot racks, allowing us to place 
roughly 50-60 servers neatly on the shelves, and control them from a 
central KVM station.

Here is the Retrospect related question --

The switch-box requires that you press "SCROLL LOCK" twice, to get 
it's attention, and doing so it "beeps".  You then have the option of 
pressing an assortment of keys that only the switch-box "sees" and 
interprets (switch between different inputs) and then it gives 
control back to the server that is currently selected.

Unfortunately, when you press SCROLL LOCK, the switch box does not 
always hear your key press right away, sometime you must press the 
SCROLL LOCK 3-6 times, before you get the "Ok, I am listening" beep.

I am afraid that Retrospect (Windows OS or Mac OS) is interpreting 
the SCROLL LOCK as a pause, and causes the backup server to just sit 
there.  I am thinking that the PC does not get a "key up" event from 
the keyboard driver (probably the switch-box interfering here), and 
just waits until you "click the mouse" or "press a key" to get a "key 
up" before it continues.

Here is an example.  Notice that the last event was 5:30:39 PM, and 
the next time something happened was 8:26:53 AM.  The entire night 
was passed up, nobody was backed up.  Keep in mind I have checked the 
obvious, and all scripts are as they have been for years, and the 
time frames indicate that Retrospect will backup at least 40-50 
clients each evening.  The log shows this from previous evenings.

-
+ Normal backup using ITBKUP-Gamma-Always at 3/8/2000 4:45 PM
   To backup set ITBKUP-gamma-MAR-2000...

- 3/8/2000 4:45:08 PM: Copying 4GB_NTFS (C:) on Moulton, Bernard-L1-zeta
   3/8/2000 4:45:08 PM: Connected to Moulton, Bernard-L1-zeta

 ... yada  ... yada ... yada  ... yada ... yada  ... yada ...

   3/8/2000 5:30:33 PM: Snapshot stored, 4,964 KB
   3/8/2000 5:30:39 PM: 5 execution errors

   Remaining: 5 files, 548 KB
   Completed: 21667 files, 1.8 GB
   Performance: 41.0 MB/minute
   Duration: 00:45:30 (00:02:50 idle/loading/preparing)


+ Duplicate using Backup Server Backup at 3/9/2000 8:26 AM

- 3/9/2000 8:26:53 AM: Copying Retrospect on Drive C (C:)
   3/9/2000 8:26:54 AM: Execution completed successfully

   Duration: 00:00:01


- 3/9/2000 8:27 AM: Backup Server stopped

+ 3/9/2000 8:32 AM: Backup Server started
-


If I happen to use the KVM during the afternoon, but go to my desk 
and check the backup server with Timbuktu, the system will backup 
all-night-long.  This is what I have noticed.

Can anyone offer any assistance here?  Suggestion to what might be 
wrong if I do not have the right conclusion?

Thanks! :)

..Greg
- * Think Different * -
Greg Jewett, Server/Project Engineer   Phone: (512) 996-4257
Motorola IT Department Pager: (800) 478-4034
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RE: Restore and error -37 bug

2000-03-09 Thread O'Donnell, Dan (NBC)

DId you figure out what the offending character is?

 -Original Message-
 From: Rees Griffiths [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 4:28 AM
 To: retro-talk
 Subject: Restore and error -37 bug
 
 
  Dear All,
 
 In performing a restore of a backed up Macintosh I came 
 across I consider a
 bug.
 
 A user somehow has managed to create a folder on the client 
 Macintosh with
 some sort of illegal character(s) in a folder name. However 
 the backups have
 happily backed up all the files within that directory.
 
 The bug means that the restoration stops when it gets to this 
 directory,
 Retrospect doesn't continue restoring everything else it can, 
 and only makes
 a note in the log that it stopped due to -37 error. It 
 doesn't say where it
 stopped. So I've had to perform a backup of a half the client 
 at a time to
 finally track down the offending folder.
 
 Perhaps the Dantz team could do something about this in a 
 future release.
 I'd be happy to provide them with more details.
 
 Cheers
 Rees

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Re: AIT drives

2000-03-09 Thread Erik Ableson

On Thu, Mar 09, 2000 at 03:24:17PM +0100, jakob krabbe wrote:
 
 
 AIT = Advanced Intelligent Tape.
 
 1. I belive this have been discussed before, but please correct me if I'm
 wrong when I say Retrospect doesn't take advantage of the chiptechnology
 inside those tapes.
Currently Retrospect does not talk to the chips on the tape.  In most cases, the 
utility of the chip is minimal since most of the ideas that people were going to use 
it for are duplicated within Retrospect already (tape indices, etc.)  The one thing 
I'm hoping that Retrospect will do is embed the name of the tape on the chip so that 
you don't have to physically load each tape all the way into the loader to determine 
the tapes that are inserted.  Well - two things - the tape also tracks overall usage 
and error rates on write operations so it would be useful to have a flag that checks 
this data and alerts you when an arbitrary reliability threshold has been exceeded 
before you reuse a tape.

 2. Would it be wise (possible??) to cycle those tapes in six or eight week
 periods? (We have cd backups for the archive.)
Yup - that wouldn't be a problem.  One of the key advantages of the AIT/VXA Advanced 
Metal Evaporative (AME) physical media is that it doesn't degrade with use as rapidly 
as does a DLT or DAT tape that uses a glue binder to attached the magnetic media to 
the physical tape itself.

 3. It is possible to connect and use the drive to a computer that just have
 the regular SCSI or dose the drive demand Wide SCSI to work at all?
You can hook it up to a regular SCSI - you just won't see the high end performance.  
On a beige G3 I've seen throughput up to 200Mb/min using the built-in SCSI port.

There's an excellent white paper available from Spectralogic that covers all the 
technical details quite well at:
http://www.spectralogic.com/resources/brochure/White_Paper_Tape_Drive_Technology.pdf

Cheers,

Erik Ableson


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Re: AIT drives

2000-03-09 Thread Ted Baker

Does anyone have any experience with the LaCie AIT 35 GB/70 GB drives?

I've been using an APS 35/70 AIT drive for ~5 months now on a biege desktop
266MHz G3 running MacOS 9  Retrospect 4.1 (now 4.2) to do nightly backups
on 24 disks on 12 Macs  2 PC's with zero problems from the tape drive.  At
~$2K for the drive plus something like $300 for an Adaptec 2940UW ultra
wide SCSI card it was financially much more attractive than ~$4K for a
35/70 DLT drive.  I had a LaCie 15/30 DLT drive for ~2 years before that 
was very happy with it but the $$$ difference was too much to pass up when
our data storage outgrew the DLT.  Based on my experience to date, I would
certainly recommend this AIT drive  SCSI card.

Regards, Ted



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