Re: Miscompare on same files every night?
I had similar flakiness with a VXA drive and various 3rd-party scsi cards (Adaptec 29160 and Orange Micro 930U), but it worked fine with built-in scsi. Ecrix wasn't particularly helpful in diagnosing this problem. (In fact they suggested I try a 2930, so it's interesting that you had the same thing happen with their recommended card). Greg Morin wrote: Ok, solved one problem, now I've got another. I'm 99% sure the problem is with our Adaptec 2930U card that our VXA drive is attached to and _not_ the VXA drive. The problem is that now I'm getting miscompares on certain files. The weird thing is that it is the same files every night. The files themselves are fine on the client computer (i.e. no damage, they work just fine). I realize you can get miscompares when a file is in use or has changed since the backup... but these are "not in use" documents on shutdown down systems (waiting for backup of course :-). If the file is modified, the next backup will sometimes get it backed up, sometimes not. I'm afraid to do a new backup, at this rate I'll have thousands of files miscomparing. Before I put the VXA drive on this card it ran off the motherboard SCSI and although slow on that, it never gave me these miscompares. Also, we've been using a DDS-2 drive for over 2 years with no history of miscompares... so it's not a general network problem (happens on backup of local drives also). I highly suspect the 2930 card because I discovered that when I have any hard drive attached to the card externally that any application on that drive will not launch w/o giving some random error (Type 1, 2, 90 something, or a dialog saying the app is damaged). I can move the same drive to the motherboard SCSI bus and all is well... so the files are not really damaged. I played around with every possible configuration of termination and Adaptec settings, nothing works (this was all done with the VXA drive detatched to ensure it was not the source of the problem... ). I've written to Adaptec but haven't heard anything back yet. Anybody else run into a similar problem before? Do I just have a bad card? Do I need to start playing the PCI port roulette game (i.e. moving it from port to port until one of them works)? I vaguely remember something about the port mattering on these 6 port machines... something about a bridge chip and the video board?? (This is a Power Tower Pro 225) Any and all advice/comments would be welcome, -Greg Morin -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- top of the world, Luke Jaeger, Technology Coordinator Disney Magazine Publishing Northampton, Massachusetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any opinions expressed in this message are my own and may not represent the opinions of Disney Publishing, etc etc etc. * -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[1]Re: Miscompare on same files every night?
[1]Re: Miscompare on same file 6/16/2000 I will be on vacation till 7/5/2000. If you need immediate assistance, call Help Desk at 6688. -- Date: 6/15/2000 10:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michael Scheurer on 16/6/00 12:36 AM, Greg Morin wrote: Any and all advice/comments would be welcome, No idea about your problem, but please keep us informed on what you find. m- -- Michael Scheurer Systems Administrator Show-Ads Digital Centre 479 St Kilda Road, Melbourne, VIC, 3004 Phone: +613 9821 4588 Fax: +613 9821 4599 Mobile 0419 554 495 http://www.showads.com.au -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFC822 header --- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from nsd.org (10.1.2.50) by pop2.nsd.org with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:15:00 -0700 Received: from cgi.clearink.com (205.227.191.14) by nsd.org with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2); Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:15:01 -0700 Received: from showads.com.au by cgi.clearink.com with SMTP; Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:13:30 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:16:21 +1000 Subject: Re: Miscompare on same files every night? From: "Michael Scheurer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: v04220801b56e97466f1c@[192.168.0.11] Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: Bulk List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.7 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Digest: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[1]Re: Miscompare on same files every night?
[1]Re: Miscompare on same file 6/16/2000 I will be on vacation till 7/5/2000. If you need immediate assistance, call Help Desk at 6688. -- Date: 6/16/2000 11:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Luke Jaeger I had similar flakiness with a VXA drive and various 3rd-party scsi cards (Adaptec 29160 and Orange Micro 930U), but it worked fine with built-in scsi. Ecrix wasn't particularly helpful in diagnosing this problem. (In fact they suggested I try a 2930, so it's interesting that you had the same thing happen with their recommended card). Greg Morin wrote: Ok, solved one problem, now I've got another. I'm 99% sure the problem is with our Adaptec 2930U card that our VXA drive is attached to and _not_ the VXA drive. The problem is that now I'm getting miscompares on certain files. The weird thing is that it is the same files every night. The files themselves are fine on the client computer (i.e. no damage, they work just fine). I realize you can get miscompares when a file is in use or has changed since the backup... but these are "not in use" documents on shutdown down systems (waiting for backup of course :-). If the file is modified, the next backup will sometimes get it backed up, sometimes not. I'm afraid to do a new backup, at this rate I'll have thousands of files miscomparing. Before I put the VXA drive on this card it ran off the motherboard SCSI and although slow on that, it never gave me these miscompares. Also, we've been using a DDS-2 drive for over 2 years with no history of miscompares... so it's not a general network problem (happens on backup of local drives also). I highly suspect the 2930 card because I discovered that when I have any hard drive attached to the card externally that any application on that drive will not launch w/o giving some random error (Type 1, 2, 90 something, or a dialog saying the app is damaged). I can move the same drive to the motherboard SCSI bus and all is well... so the files are not really damaged. I played around with every possible configuration of termination and Adaptec settings, nothing works (this was all done with the VXA drive detatched to ensure it was not the source of the problem... ). I've written to Adaptec but haven't heard anything back yet. Anybody else run into a similar problem before? Do I just have a bad card? Do I need to start playing the PCI port roulette game (i.e. moving it from port to port until one of them works)? I vaguely remember something about the port mattering on these 6 port machines... something about a bridge chip and the video board?? (This is a Power Tower Pro 225) Any and all advice/comments would be welcome, -Greg Morin -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- top of the world, Luke Jaeger, Technology Coordinator Disney Magazine Publishing Northampton, Massachusetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any opinions expressed in this message are my own and may not represent the opinions of Disney Publishing, etc etc etc. * -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RFC822 header --- Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from nsd.org (10.1.2.50) by pop2.nsd.org with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2.2); Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:33:27 -0700 Received: from cgi.clearink.com (205.227.191.14) by nsd.org with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2); Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:33:24 -0700 Received: from familyfun.com by cgi.clearink.com with SMTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:32:24 -0700 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:21:27 -0400 From: Luke Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Disney Magazine Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Miscompare on same files every night? References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] v04220801b56e97466f1c@[192.168.0.11] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: Bulk List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.7 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Digest: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 6/16/2000 4:20 PM, "Irina Tarasova" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [1]Re: Miscompare on same file 6/16/2000 I will be on vacation till 7/5/2000. If you need immediate assistance, call Help Desk at 6688. Ug. she has been removed from the list. as a reminder to you all, don't be stupid and setup vacation messages. they are annoying and generally never work properly. thanks, -jon -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Miscompare on same files every night?
Ok, solved one problem, now I've got another. I'm 99% sure the problem is with our Adaptec 2930U card that our VXA drive is attached to and _not_ the VXA drive. The problem is that now I'm getting miscompares on certain files. The weird thing is that it is the same files every night. The files themselves are fine on the client computer (i.e. no damage, they work just fine). I realize you can get miscompares when a file is in use or has changed since the backup... but these are "not in use" documents on shutdown down systems (waiting for backup of course :-). If the file is modified, the next backup will sometimes get it backed up, sometimes not. I'm afraid to do a new backup, at this rate I'll have thousands of files miscomparing. Before I put the VXA drive on this card it ran off the motherboard SCSI and although slow on that, it never gave me these miscompares. Also, we've been using a DDS-2 drive for over 2 years with no history of miscompares... so it's not a general network problem (happens on backup of local drives also). I highly suspect the 2930 card because I discovered that when I have any hard drive attached to the card externally that any application on that drive will not launch w/o giving some random error (Type 1, 2, 90 something, or a dialog saying the app is damaged). I can move the same drive to the motherboard SCSI bus and all is well... so the files are not really damaged. I played around with every possible configuration of termination and Adaptec settings, nothing works (this was all done with the VXA drive detatched to ensure it was not the source of the problem... ). I've written to Adaptec but haven't heard anything back yet. Anybody else run into a similar problem before? Do I just have a bad card? Do I need to start playing the PCI port roulette game (i.e. moving it from port to port until one of them works)? I vaguely remember something about the port mattering on these 6 port machines... something about a bridge chip and the video board?? (This is a Power Tower Pro 225) Any and all advice/comments would be welcome, -Greg Morin -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Miscompare on same files every night?
on 16/6/00 12:36 AM, Greg Morin wrote: Any and all advice/comments would be welcome, No idea about your problem, but please keep us informed on what you find. m- -- Michael Scheurer Systems Administrator Show-Ads Digital Centre 479 St Kilda Road, Melbourne, VIC, 3004 Phone: +613 9821 4588 Fax: +613 9821 4599 Mobile 0419 554 495 http://www.showads.com.au -- -- To subscribe:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives:http://list.working-dogs.com/lists/retro-talk/ Problems?: [EMAIL PROTECTED]