RE: Backup of removable volumes

[PetersJB]

In my backup of about 50 client systems, I've most often configured the
client to backup the Startup Volume of a specified collection of volumes.
This choice was made to avoid the possibility of backing up CD-ROMs (which
are read-only anyway) and removable media which the user might want to
dismount while the backup was underway.  (We do incrementals during the
day.)

If a colleague expected to have his/her Zip disk backed up along with the
rest of their volumes, they might be sorely disappointed.  Moral: Check with
your backup administrator to ensure that the proper configuration of the
client exists to support backing up the removable volume(s).

HTH.

Brooks Peters(301) 227-1243 (voice)
NSWC - Carderock Division(301) 227-5930 (fax)
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> From: Hyde, Glenna M.
> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2000 12:51 PM
> To:   'retro-talk'
> Subject:  RE: Backup of removable volumes
> 
> If the Zip disk can be left in the machine for night time backup,
> Retrospect
> will back it up as another volume on the client  hard drive.  Be sure  the
> Zip is named so it can be retrieved later without looking up 10 or 15
> Zip100's.
> 
> Thanks
> Glenna Hyde
> System Administrator/Artist
> Werner Ladder Co.
> 724-588-2000 ext 2391
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > From:   Geoffrey Lee
> > Reply To:   retro-talk
> > Sent:   Tuesday, February 1, 2000 5:07 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:Backup of removable volumes
> > 
> > 
> > Can anyone help me here.
> > 
> > We are using Retrospect 4.2 for macintosh.
> > There is a user who wants to be able to bring in an arbitrary zip disk,
> > put it into his machine during the day and have it backed up
> > 
> > We have backups running during the day (for laptops etc..), so this
> > should be quite simple. The problem is that we have to define each zip
> > disk that retrospect hasn't seen before as a volume on the client
> machine
> > before Retrospect will back it up. 
> > 
> > A daytime backup of the entire machine is not acceptable as this would
> > impede work.
> > 
> > Is there a way to tell retrospect only to backup removable devices or,
> to
> > define the zip drive as a volume? Or does anyone know another way this
> can
> > be achieved.
> > 
> > Many thanks,  
> > 
> > 
> >Geoff Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Computing Support
> >Human Communication Research Centre  
> >University of Edinburgh  
> >2, Buccleuch Place  
> >Edinburgh
> >EH8 9LW  
> >Scotland, UK 
> > 
> > 
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RE: Backup of removable volumes

[Hyde, Glenna M.]

If the Zip disk can be left in the machine for night time backup, Retrospect
will back it up as another volume on the client  hard drive.  Be sure  the
Zip is named so it can be retrieved later without looking up 10 or 15
Zip100's.

Thanks
Glenna Hyde
System Administrator/Artist
Werner Ladder Co.
724-588-2000 ext 2391
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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> From: Geoffrey Lee
> Reply To: retro-talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 1, 2000 5:07 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Backup of removable volumes
> 
> 
> Can anyone help me here.
> 
> We are using Retrospect 4.2 for macintosh.
> There is a user who wants to be able to bring in an arbitrary zip disk,
> put it into his machine during the day and have it backed up
> 
> We have backups running during the day (for laptops etc..), so this
> should be quite simple. The problem is that we have to define each zip
> disk that retrospect hasn't seen before as a volume on the client machine
> before Retrospect will back it up. 
> 
> A daytime backup of the entire machine is not acceptable as this would
> impede work.
> 
> Is there a way to tell retrospect only to backup removable devices or, to
> define the zip drive as a volume? Or does anyone know another way this can
> be achieved.
> 
> Many thanks,  
> 
> 
>Geoff Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Computing Support
>Human Communication Research Centre  
>University of Edinburgh  
>2, Buccleuch Place  
>Edinburgh
>EH8 9LW  
>Scotland, UK 
> 
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Re: Backup of removable volumes

[Ryan La Riviere]

On 02/01/2000 somewhere around the time of 10:07 +, Geoffrey Lee spoke about 
"Backup of removable volumes":


>Can anyone help me here.
>
>We are using Retrospect 4.2 for macintosh.
>There is a user who wants to be able to bring in an arbitrary zip disk,
>put it into his machine during the day and have it backed up
>
>We have backups running during the day (for laptops etc..), so this
>should be quite simple. The problem is that we have to define each zip
>disk that retrospect hasn't seen before as a volume on the client machine
>before Retrospect will back it up.
>
>A daytime backup of the entire machine is not acceptable as this would
>impede work.
>
>Is there a way to tell retrospect only to backup removable devices or, to
>define the zip drive as a volume? Or does anyone know another way this can
>be achieved.

This is the set up I have is for each client:

Under the General tab there is a popup menu for Backup.  The choices are Client 
Desktop, Startup Volume, and Selected Volumes.

I have it set to Client Desktop.  The caveat is that the zip disk would have to be 
mounted as a volume on the client machine DURING a backup session that the client is a 
part of.

There is no way I'm aware of to backup a Zip disk when the Zip disk is not in the 
machine and a backup is taking place.  You simply cannot backup something that is not 
there.

You have three solutions.

1.  Have the user copy any data to their machine to have it backed up during a normal 
backup schedule
2.  Leave the Zip disk in the machine over night to have it backed up during a normal 
backup schedule
3.  Set up a "Backup Server" script similar to how you would for laptop users.  Add 
the client machines that you would like to have this ability to the script.  This 
would allow, assuming the client machine has the Retrospect control strip installed, 
the user to tell the retrospect server to back up their machine.  The easy way is to 
just let it backup everything (incrementally of course).  The side effect would be 
that stuff would get backed up more frequently from the local hard drives on those 
client machines.

HTH.
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Ryan La Riviere

Lab Services Coordinator; Drexel University
215.895.6010
ICQ: 11747071, 44292959
http://staff.tdec.drexel.edu/larz


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Backup of removable volumes

[Geoffrey Lee]

Can anyone help me here.

We are using Retrospect 4.2 for macintosh.
There is a user who wants to be able to bring in an arbitrary zip disk,
put it into his machine during the day and have it backed up

We have backups running during the day (for laptops etc..), so this
should be quite simple. The problem is that we have to define each zip
disk that retrospect hasn't seen before as a volume on the client machine
before Retrospect will back it up. 

A daytime backup of the entire machine is not acceptable as this would
impede work.

Is there a way to tell retrospect only to backup removable devices or, to
define the zip drive as a volume? Or does anyone know another way this can
be achieved.

Many thanks,  


   Geoff Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Computing Support
   Human Communication Research Centre  
   University of Edinburgh  
   2, Buccleuch Place  
   Edinburgh
   EH8 9LW  
   Scotland, UK 




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