Re: Feature suggestion: missing member notification

[David Ross]

> mmm. . . I think you've misunderstood me. All I'm wanting is an
> indication that a set is incomplete either when I choose it from the
> list of backup sets (by perhaps a broken icon or whatever) or when
> the results of a restore are presented ie an alert saying "Not all
> the possible files are included in this restore, as one or more
> members of the set are missing". At the moment the only way you can
> find out whether a set is incomplete is going into the individual set
> and clicking on "Members" (I think).

It may or may not be true that not all files are there. When a member is
set missing the next thing retrospect does is try to get a new copy of
all files lost with the missing member. As long as you haven't deleted
them and you don't mind them being current they'll all be there.


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Re: Feature suggestion: missing member notification

[Owen Watson]

>
>What are you talking about?? Do you want Retrospect, the back-up company,
>to log *every single move* on all backed up computers and save that in an
>unlimited log so you can see what you (or anyone) did "over the past years"??

mmm. . . I think you've misunderstood me. All I'm wanting is an 
indication that a set is incomplete either when I choose it from the 
list of backup sets (by perhaps a broken icon or whatever) or when 
the results of a restore are presented ie an alert saying "Not all 
the possible files are included in this restore, as one or more 
members of the set are missing". At the moment the only way you can 
find out whether a set is incomplete is going into the individual set 
and clicking on "Members" (I think).

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Re: Feature suggestion: missing member notification

[jakob krabbe]

At 19:00 2000-10-19 +1300, you wrote:
>I totally disagree: even ignoring the multi-user aspect, can you 
>remember everything you've done over the last few years? Do you want 
>to? I want a clear indication that a backup set that I am restoring 
>from is incomplete.

Ha!!

What are you talking about?? Do you want Retrospect, the back-up company,
to log *every single move* on all backed up computers and save that in an
unlimited log so you can see what you (or anyone) did "over the past years"??

I'd say it's a great feature and I'm sure many will appreachiate it but if
that was included in Retrospect I'd look for an alternative solution.

thanx,

/ jakob


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Re: Feature suggestion: missing member notification

[Owen Watson]

I totally disagree: even ignoring the multi-user aspect, can you 
remember everything you've done over the last few years? Do you want 
to? I want a clear indication that a backup set that I am restoring 
from is incomplete.
>
>Owen,
>
>I understand your frustration here but it seems that you're asking
>software developers to include notifications or "backdoors" or whatever
>you want to call it to cover every possible situation that a user might
>run in to. Plainly put, you're asking that this developer put in a
>"feature" that will tell you if someone's been tinkering around in your
>machine.
>
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Re: Feature suggestion: missing member notification

[Pam Lefkowitz]

>What I'd suggest that if someone is restoring, 
>there should be a few alerts (or at least a couple of  type 
>messages) that it could be incomplete. Also, it would be useful if it 
>could be indicated in the backup set list some sort of incomplete 
>icon for a missing set, plus a text message.

Owen,

I understand your frustration here but it seems that you're asking 
software developers to include notifications or "backdoors" or whatever 
you want to call it to cover every possible situation that a user might 
run in to. Plainly put, you're asking that this developer put in a 
"feature" that will tell you if someone's been tinkering around in your 
machine. 

Frankly, that's what security software is for. In fact, Retrospect 
already has a security feature for access to backup sets so that 
co-tinkering can be avoided. Developers cannot possibly be held 
accountable for multiple admins/users/tinkerers working on one computer. 
Maybe that other person was trying to help you and when he/she couldn't 
find the needed tape, marked the member missing thinking they were doing 
the right thing (or maybe not, I dunno). 

I guess what I'm saying is that responsibility for what happens on my 
computer lies with me. If someone else is getting into my important files 
then it is my responsibility to secure the sytem from prying eyes or to 
train that person in my methods of 
backup/filing/restoring/working/whatever. It is not the responsibility of 
a company like Dantz to let me know that someone's been mucking around 
with my software. 

Sorry for the rant,

Pam


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