Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-30 Thread Alan Hewat
Thanks Armel. Have a look also at the s-triazine paper. 30 years ago Pawley and I were determining structures of materials that are liquid at room temperature. I remember he was worried about liquid HCN on the French train. You might try that :-)

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-30 Thread Le Bail Armel
ssage du 29/08/18 12:33 > De : "Alan Hewat" > A : "Armel Le Bail" > Copie à : "rietveld_l@ill.fr" > Objet : Re: Rietveld website cancelled ? > > > A clear distinction having my complete agreement. (Armel) Ouf. Nous sommes d'accord enfin :-) For

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-30 Thread Le Bail Armel
eld_l@ill.fr" > Copie à : > Objet : Re: Rietveld website cancelled ? > > > You dig ! Please stop digging Armel. Loaded guns, grave digging and religion are off limits. __ >    Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics, Gr

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-30 Thread Alan Hewat
> You dig ! Please stop digging Armel. Loaded guns, grave digging and religion are off limits. __ * Dr Alan Hewat, NeutronOptics, Grenoble, FRANCE * +33.476.98.41.68 http://www.NeutronOptics.com/hewat

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-30 Thread Le Bail Armel
j" > A : "% MailingList Rietveld" > Copie à : elb...@jhu.edu > Objet : Re: Rietveld website cancelled ? > > It all depends on the definition. If/when we agree on the definition, there is usually no points for further arguing. Anyway we could call Relieved metho

RE: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-30 Thread Le Bail Armel
mind and a lot of chance- congratulations.   You dig.   Armel     > Message du 29/08/18 18:26 > De : "Von Dreele, Robert B." > A : "Larry Finger" , "Le Bail Armel" , "Toby, Brian H." > Copie à : "Rietveld_L@ill.fr" > O

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread Kurt Leinenweber
Was that Clint Eastwood? - Kurt From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr on behalf of Le Bail Armel Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:01:25 PM To: Rietveld_L@ill.fr Subject: Re: Rietveld website cancelled ? OK, seems that the SDPD book preface looks unclear to some

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread Larry Finger
On 08/29/2018 02:01 PM, Le Bail Armel wrote: OK, seems that the SDPD book preface looks unclear to some. Western movies adepts well know that sentence : "You see, in this world there's /two kinds/ of /people/, my friend: /those/ with loaded /guns/, and /those/ who /dig/. /You dig/. .."

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread Le Bail Armel
believing that the sense of the words "structure determination" and "structure refinement" are the same, and the others. You dig.   Best   Armel         > Message du 29/08/18 18:09 > De : "Larry Finger" > A : "Le Bail Armel" , Ri

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread Peter Y. Zavalij
It all depends on the definition. If/when we agree on the definition, there is usually no points for further arguing. Anyway we could call Relieved method a structure determination from powder data as long as it does not included solving structure (or as David elegantly put - true structural

RE: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread Von Dreele, Robert B.
. NB: this kind of thing has also happened more recently (see papers by Margiolaki, et al). Bob Von Dreele -Original Message- From: rietveld_l-requ...@ill.fr On Behalf Of Larry Finger Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 11:10 AM To: Le Bail Armel ; Rietveld_L@ill.fr Subject: Re: Rietveld web

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread Larry Finger
On 08/29/2018 04:15 AM, Le Bail Armel wrote: Hi, After the IUCr Monograph on Crystallography 13 (2002) entitled "Stucture Determination from Powder Diffraction Data" you may find in the preface : "Although the Rietveld method of structure refinement from powder diffraction data is often

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread Le Bail Armel
ies that the structure is already determined (not always if you use ICDD), then if you wish, you may refine it by the Rietveld method     > Message du 29/08/18 12:35 > De : "Alan Hewat" > A : "Armel Le Bail" > Copie à : "rietveld_l@ill.fr" > Objet :

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread Alan Hewat
> A clear distinction having my complete agreement. (Armel) Ouf. Nous sommes d'accord enfin :-) For Armel, here are a couple of examples of automatic indexing, search-match and structure

RE: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread Le Bail Armel
agreement.   Armel http://www.cristal.org/CAC-XX/maze.jpg http://www.cristal.org/CAC-XX/Rietveld.ppt     > Message du 29/08/18 10:14 > De : "May, Frank" > A : "Alan Hewat" , "rietveld_l@ill.fr" > Copie à : > Objet : RE: Rietveld website cancelled

RE: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-29 Thread May, Frank
To all: Initially I sent this to Alan who suggested I open discussion to the entire community. I've posted similar in past years and have been FLAMED. Please keep it civil. ;-) = As a long time practitioner of powder XRD (since 1972) I was there when the superconductor

Re: Rietveld website cancelled ?

2018-08-28 Thread Alan Hewat
Good work Armel. Note that little is lost once it is posted to the WWW, since it is backed up in several places. The "WayBack Machine" is a good way of recovering historic web sites. The WayBack server is a bit slow, since it is supported only by donations and is probably in heavy demand - see: