Well said!
On 13-jan-06, at 21:34, Emmanuel Okyere wrote:
Yes, we are talking about the same thing. As I'm saying, if the IDE
already provides features to ease RIFE development that much, why
re-invent the wheel?
Eddy, I don't think we are re-inventing the wheel here, just adding to
what is a
> Yes, we are talking about the same thing. As I'm saying, if the IDE
> already provides features to ease RIFE development that much, why
> re-invent the wheel?
Eddy, I don't think we are re-inventing the wheel here, just adding to
what is already available to make it 'more easier' to move from
re
Geert, Earlier this approach of my plugin was referred to as Jumpstart For Eclipse. That made me think and really, we have two options here:1) Port my plugin to Rife allowing for users to configure the plugin to "manage" multiple Rife instances.
2) Create a Server Launch Configuration like W
Yes, we are talking about the same thing. As I'm saying, if the IDE
already provides features to ease RIFE development that much, why
re-invent the wheel?
I'll try a RIFE project template for NetBeans first before going for a
full-blown plugin.
I don't think that anybody here wants to reinve
Hey all, Ideally, it would be nice to have a plugin structure that would be easily ported to the other main Java IDEs. (NetBeans and IntelliJ) Obviously things would change slightly and this might be a huge task but I think that this should be the approach. Obviously we would need developers
Hmmm... True, seems very useful. I will try to replicate this in
NetBeans as I'm pretty sure I saw a tutorial on how to define new syntax
highlighting rules.
I glanced over the NetBeans docs to do that once I think. It doesn't
seem to be hard indeed, if I recall correctly.
Mind you, I am onl
Jeremy Whitlock wrote:
Eddy,
Eclipse provides that as well. What I mean by templates is to be
able to go to File > New and see Rife stuff there that would create
template Rife applications ready for hacking for their business need.
We then would integrate into the content assist to all
Geert Bevin wrote:
Hi Eddy,
those lexers would be for RIFE-specific highlighting of template tags
for instance, like the yellow you see here:
http://rifers.org/03_numberguess/src/templates/guess.html.html
I have this setup in X-develop with a plugin since several months and I
really find it
To both Geert and Eddy:Geert, That is exactly what I was thinking. The plugin would be a lot like Jumpstart in it's packaging and stuff and would allow for download and learn/develop capabilities. We could then either build upon this plugin to create our Rife "IDE" or we could have multiple p
Hi Eddy,
those lexers would be for RIFE-specific highlighting of template tags
for instance, like the yellow you see here:
http://rifers.org/03_numberguess/src/templates/guess.html.html
I have this setup in X-develop with a plugin since several months and I
really find it very helpful.
The
Sounds good. I do have to say porting my plugin to Rife would be
quick but I don't mind doing that later. We can follow your model and
I think the main thing here is that I never saw your plugin. I'll make
some time tomorrow morning to install Weblogic and your plugin. Like
that I can se
Geert, Cool.Take care,JeremyOn 1/13/06, Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, but IIRC it also uses JFlex for the lexers. This means that thelexers of JHighlight can be reused.Jeremy Whitlock wrote:> Geert,> Wouldn't we just hook into the Eclipse syntax highlighter and
> extend it fo
Yes, but IIRC it also uses JFlex for the lexers. This means that the
lexers of JHighlight can be reused.
Jeremy Whitlock wrote:
Geert,
Wouldn't we just hook into the Eclipse syntax highlighter and
extend it for the Rife Eclipse types?
Take care,
Jeremy
On 1/13/06, * Geert Bevin* <[EMA
Geert, Wouldn't we just hook into the Eclipse syntax highlighter and extend it for the Rife Eclipse types?Take care,JeremyOn 1/13/06,
Geert Bevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I just want to mention JHighlight, which we could use for syntax
highlighting of RIFE templates. It uses JFlex as a lexer
Geert, Sounds good. I do have to say porting my plugin to Rife would be quick but I don't mind doing that later. We can follow your model and based on user/developer needs, we'll make changes accordingly. To provide what you are looking for, we basically should do the following in Eclipse-spe
I just want to mention JHighlight, which we could use for syntax
highlighting of RIFE templates. It uses JFlex as a lexer and has full
support for creating syntax highlighted HTML files:
https://jhighlight.dev.java.net/
We can reuse the lexers and other parts if required for the plugin.
--
Geer
Great recap and replies!
I think that the plugin should first focus on making the development of
RIFE applications easier. Managing production installations and stuff
like that would be interesting, but I think that should be left for
later. This would also benefit from adding JMX support to R
Oliver, I'll re-read my EMF and GEF books over the weekend. I'm sure that if I can find the APIs to get the proper information, we can model/visualize it.Take care,JeremyP.S. - I will take out the easy adjective though. ;)
On 1/13/06, Oliver Dohmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,>> Geert,>
Hi,
Geert,
While the starting/starting of Rife isn't really a function of
Rife, we will want to be able to start/stop and embedded container,
like Jetty/Tomcat, to allow us to control the Rife environment.
(This would also allow for us to debug Rife applications.) That is
what wou
Wow...a lot of stuff going on. Here are my comments:Geert, While the starting/starting of Rife isn't really a function of Rife, we will want to be able to start/stop and embedded container, like Jetty/Tomcat, to allow us to control the Rife environment. (This would also allow for us to debug
What I have been dreaming of since several years is to be able to
visually see the site structure and to be able to set breakpoints and
watch expressions visually on a running application. Like that you can
visually trace what is going on exactly and clearly follow the data
and logic flow. This
Hi,
What I have been dreaming of since several years is to be able to
visually see the site structure and to be able to set breakpoints
and watch expressions visually on a running application. Like that
you can visually trace what is going on exactly and clearly follow
the data and logic
For those that are not on our IRC channel, we're also discussing this in
parallel there atm. You can get the logs here:
http://servlet.uwyn.com/drone/log/bevinbot/rife/20060113
Jeremy Whitlock wrote:
Hey all,
I have been talking to Geert about an Eclipse Plugin for Rife. He
i don't think fixed file locations should be our major concern...
probably, we should think about what preferences we can add in to
allow people more flexibility with the system;
Of course it's not the major concern, I was just warning to not go that
road. There's no reason why the plugin can't
i don't think fixed file locations should be our major concern...
probably, we should think about what preferences we can add in to
allow people more flexibility with the system;
-- eokyere
On 1/13/06, Emmanuel Okyere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> wowz... tons of reponses already... lol
>
> On 1/1
Cool. I like this a lot. My plugin will probably only provide the
mechanism to configure Rife instances, start/stop them and debugging the
Hmm actually the starting and stopping of web applications is not
RIFE-related. It is the servlet container that is responsible for that.
How do yo
wowz... tons of reponses already... lol
On 1/13/06, Emmanuel Okyere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Geert posted a sort of roadmap here
> http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/IdePlugins; i think it's a good
> place to start... like Geert, I'm prepared to put effort into this if
> we can get it started
If you read Geert's latest blog entry
(http://rifers.org/blogs/gbevin/2006/1/13/visual_rife_eclipse_plugin)
you'll notice that Oliver has been working on a plugin as well... Would
yours integrate his functionality or would it already have the features
he's talking about?
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 08:5
Geert posted a sort of roadmap here
http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/IdePlugins; i think it's a good
place to start... like Geert, I'm prepared to put effort into this if
we can get it started.
-- eokyere
On 1/13/06, Jeremy Whitlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all,
> I have been talk
Thanks to Jeremy for making the offer. I don't see any objection to him
project managing this given his track record.
Regarding development of RIFE plugins, I think it should be a concerted
effort among the developers who take up the tasks. This would ensure the
plugins are consistent across t
Geert, Cool. I like this a lot. My plugin will probably only provide the mechanism to configure Rife instances, start/stop them and debugging the Rife applications. Once I learn a little more of what could be visualized, we could also visualize each instance's Rife components as well like I
Eddy, This will definately be a joint effort involving many Rife developers/users. We should definately start brainstorming on things like the proposed file locations and such. We should all get on IRC at the same time or something. Just let me know when to be there and I'll make it so.
Take
Hi Jeremy,
thanks a lot for stepping up to jumpstart this effort.
We already started discussion possible features before the new-year and
put some things on the wiki here:
http://rifers.org/wiki/display/RIFE/IdePlugins
I'm most interested in the first stage: "facilitate regular coding". I
no
Jeremy Whitlock wrote:
Hey all,
I have been talking to Geert about an Eclipse Plugin for Rife. He
seems interested in beginning development on it and wanted someone to
get it started. I would like to fill these shoes and have a track
proven record to do so. I have written a plugin that
Hey all, I have been talking to Geert about an Eclipse Plugin for Rife. He seems interested in beginning development on it and wanted someone to get it started. I would like to fill these shoes and have a track proven record to do so. I have written a plugin that will probably perform simila
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 15:06 +, Eddy Young wrote:
> Eddy Young wrote:
> > Geert Bevin wrote:
> >> Hmm, so this seems to not be possible with a freeform ant project?
>
> [snip]
>
> > I don't think it does. But it makes sense as free-from Ant projects will
> > come in a gazillion shapes, and th
Ok, thanks, I'll keep that in mind when I play with it again.
Eddy Young wrote:
Geert Bevin wrote:
Hmm, so this seems to not be possible with a freeform ant project?
Eddy Young wrote:
Geert Bevin wrote:
Actually I have a question about RIFE and NetBeans. How do you set a
project up so that t
Eddy Young wrote:
Geert Bevin wrote:
Hmm, so this seems to not be possible with a freeform ant project?
[snip]
I don't think it does. But it makes sense as free-from Ant projects will
come in a gazillion shapes, and there is no way NetBeans will be able to
tackle all of those.
Try creatin
Geert Bevin wrote:
Hmm, so this seems to not be possible with a freeform ant project?
Eddy Young wrote:
Geert Bevin wrote:
Actually I have a question about RIFE and NetBeans. How do you set a
project up so that the libraries it has have their sources linked to
it? Also, how do you link to jav
Hmm, so this seems to not be possible with a freeform ant project?
Eddy Young wrote:
Geert Bevin wrote:
Actually I have a question about RIFE and NetBeans. How do you set a
project up so that the libraries it has have their sources linked to
it? Also, how do you link to javadocs to them?
You
Actually I have a question about RIFE and NetBeans. How do you set a
project up so that the libraries it has have their sources linked to it?
Also, how do you link to javadocs to them?
--
Geert Bevin Uwyn bvba
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Hi Eddy,
NetBeans 5.0 RC1 was released yesterday with further improvements and
bug fixes, namely the ability to deploy/consume web services without the
Sun Application Server container and support for additional application
servers. So, it will be silly to give up on this great IDE. Besides, t
David Herbert wrote:
[snip]
(1) is anyone else using the Netbeans IDE successfully (I note that Eclipse
and one other commercial IDE have plugins, but I don't really understand what
these do)? Or do I just have to abandon Netbeans altogether?
NetBeans 5.0 RC1 was released yesterday with fur
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