Re: [rkward-devel] Endless errors starting up org.freedesktop.dbus-system on OSX

2014-11-10 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi Aaron, no, this is not yet forgotten, we're just stuck... On Thursday 23 October 2014 15:26:28 meik michalke wrote: now, this is a portion from man launchctl: man Note that per-user configuration files (LaunchAgents) must be owned by the user loading them. All system-wide daemons

Re: [rkward-devel] Endless errors starting up org.freedesktop.dbus-system on OSX (Aaron Batty)

2014-10-24 Thread Aaron Batty
Thanks for keeping at it! Welcome, by the way, to trying to get something UNIXy done on the Mac. The documentation is always incomplete, if not entirely wrong. Apple spent 2006 and 2007 crowing about how OS X was certified UNIX, and then from 10.7 on have been just changing and making things up

Re: [rkward-devel] Endless errors starting up org.freedesktop.dbus-system on OSX

2014-10-23 Thread meik michalke
hi aaron, Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 09:59:22 schrieb Aaron Batty: I also had a chance to check on a student's Mac on Friday. It has only ever had one installation of RKWard. The behavior was there as well, so it's not linked to multiple installs. ok, so we can rule that one out. for the

Re: [rkward-devel] Endless errors starting up org.freedesktop.dbus-system on OSX

2014-10-21 Thread Aaron Batty
I just realized that I said that I noticed these errors in March 2013; I meant March 2014. Sorry; Japan's fiscal/academic/everything year is April-March, and as a result, I always think of years starting in April. Last March, therefore, feels like 2013 because that's the budget/academic year it

Re: [rkward-devel] Endless errors starting up org.freedesktop.dbus-system on OSX

2014-10-16 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi, On Thursday 16 October 2014 10:25:50 Aaron Batty wrote: Hey guys, I've been meaning to let you know about this for months, but I kept forgetting. On OSX, there is a problem launching what I'm pretty sure is a part of KDE. These two messages loop all day every day in the log forever on

Re: [rkward-devel] Endless errors starting up org.freedesktop.dbus-system on OSX

2014-10-16 Thread meik michalke
hi, Am Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2014, 11:30:26 schrieb Thomas Friedrichsmeier: 3. /Library/LaunchDaemons/org.freedesktop.dbus-system.plist really just fires up /opt/rkward/bin/dbus-daemon --system --nofork 4. Trying to run that, as a regular user, manually gives: Failed to start message

Re: [rkward-devel] Endless errors starting up org.freedesktop.dbus-system on OSX

2014-10-16 Thread Aaron Batty
1. Totally ignorant question: Where would I find those logs? To see them in realtime, start up Console.app, which I believe is in the /Applications/Utilities folder by default. The actual file is at /private/var/log/system.log 2. Question: Only while RKWard is running, or all the time?

Re: [rkward-devel] Endless errors starting up org.freedesktop.dbus-system on OSX

2014-10-16 Thread Thomas Friedrichsmeier
Hi Meik and Aaron, On Thursday 16 October 2014 12:14:43 meik michalke wrote: @aaron: did you already see this happening before september 2014? if not: @thomas: can this be related to one of these commits: - 4802 - 4803 - 4822 - 4834 an obvious guess. However, I don't see, how this

Re: [rkward-devel] Endless errors starting up org.freedesktop.dbus-system on OSX

2014-10-16 Thread Aaron Batty
Hi guys; thanks for the attention to this. Question: Do you see a dbus-daemon process in your process list? 7. On startup, RKWard itself calls launchclt -w /opt/rkward/Library/LaunchAgents/org.freedesktop.dbus- session.plist 8. I suppose this connects to the system dbus-daemon. yes,

[rkward-devel] Endless errors starting up org.freedesktop.dbus-system on OSX

2014-10-15 Thread Aaron Batty
Hey guys, I've been meaning to let you know about this for months, but I kept forgetting. On OSX, there is a problem launching what I'm pretty sure is a part of KDE. These two messages loop all day every day in the log forever on all of my Macs with RKWard on them. 10/16/14 10:18:50.549