Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Fwd: Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-17 Thread Luis Garrido
On 05/17/2012 02:26 AM, David Tisdell wrote:

 I hear you but as a music teacher and music software evangelist, it is
 huge when I can push an app that runs on multiple platforms to an
 education audience. I do all of my most important audio work in Linux


There's always the option of using one of the many audio-oriented live 
CD/USB, like AV Linux:

http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html

Then you are evangelizing open source as a whole. That's what I use when 
I want to introduce someone to linux audio software.

That said, live CDs are not without problems, mainly related to hardware 
support: wifi interfaces, last generation video adapters or high-end 
audio interfaces may not work out of the box. But overall they are a 
good option.

HTH,

Luis


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD

2012-05-17 Thread Chris Cannam
On 17 May 2012 09:10, Gary G. happyr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 How do you attach anything to this Listserv?  Actually is it a Listserv or
 an NNTP server?

It's a mailing list, i.e. like a listserv though not actually running
listserv software.

http://rosegardenmusic.com/support/lists/

Gmane provides a web interface and NNTP interface for a number of
mailing lists, including ours -- we don't particularly support or
endorse them, but the interface can be useful for some.

If you don't like Gmane, subscribe to the list directly via email
instead. Subscription details can be found through the page above.


Chris

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] One Further Thought on RGD

2012-05-17 Thread jimmy

On 17 May 2012 09:10, Gary G. happyrat1@... wrote:
 How do you attach anything to this Listserv?  Actually is it a Listserv or
 an NNTP server?

If you use gmame to read and post to this mailing list, I don't see any obvious 
way to attach files through their simple web interface.

As Chris C. said, you can subscribe (using one of your email addresses).  It 
may be better to use a separate email address (a throw-away-able account) other 
than your personal email accounts for friends and family.

Several Rosegarden mailing lists are at:

   http://rosegardenmusic.com/support/lists/

this particular mailing list is the User list.  Once you subscribed to it 
with your email, any email addressed to

   rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net

is a post to the mailing list.  You can attach files to such emails if needed.

Jimmy



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Fwd: Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-17 Thread david
On 05/16/2012 08:54 PM, Luis Garrido wrote:
 On 05/17/2012 02:26 AM, David Tisdell wrote:

 I hear you but as a music teacher and music software evangelist, it is
 huge when I can push an app that runs on multiple platforms to an
 education audience. I do all of my most important audio work in Linux


 There's always the option of using one of the many audio-oriented live
 CD/USB, like AV Linux:

 http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html

I prefer Musix 3 beta. Doesn't require PAE. PureDyne and dynebolic are 
still good, I think they've both been updated.

 Then you are evangelizing open source as a whole. That's what I use when
 I want to introduce someone to linux audio software.


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Re: [Rosegarden-user] [Rosegarden-devel] Fwd: Rosegarden's Future

2012-05-17 Thread jimmy
 On 05/17/2012 02:26 AM, David Tisdell wrote:
 
  I hear you but as a music teacher and music software
 evangelist, it is
  huge when I can push an app that runs on multiple
 platforms to an
  education audience. I do all of my most important audio
 work in Linux


I hear ya, but being short-handed as far as deverlopers to do the work, I think 
Rosegarden should concentrate on being solidly good at what it does, even 
just to maintain the current set of functionalities, rather than trying to do 
too much (multi-platform) and being mediocre at it.

People who don't program for complex software projects for a long time don't 
know the countless problems that software developers have to deal with.

Different platforms will have multitude of problems relating to testing, 
different versions of libraries, drivers, software...

Even different Linux distros, or within the same distro have different library 
versions and quirks of their own already (Debian stable, testing, unstable...)

Windows itself is not homogeneous as some marketing department wanted you to 
believe.  Have you experience the numerous printers, scanners... which won't 
work?  That's right, device drivers only work for specific releases of Windows 
(95, 98, Me, NT, 2000, XP, Vista, Win7, Win8).  Some won't even work for 
different editions of the same Windows release (home, pro, multi-media, 
enterprise...)  Some softwares may require specific service-pack or later for 
it to work, too.

Watch out for the horrendous performance interference from various 
anti-malware, anti-virus softwares.  Oh, yeah...  There are numerous malwares 
that the anti-malware and anti-virus stuff won't even detect properly, let 
alone clean up.

People who don't want to learn will readily make up all kind of excuses to 
avoid having to learn.  Wait until they start using Rosegaden and complain that 
it doesn't work like FruitLoops, Cubebase, GarageBand, or whatever...  The same 
way some people complain that LibreOffice, or OpenOffice doesn't look, or work 
like MS Office.  Those people are more troublesome than it's worth to try to 
convince, or convert.  Just let them go...  If and when they are ready, they 
will find a way.

Jimmy



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Busted Examples

2012-05-17 Thread steve conrad
Was that meant to be snide?

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