Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?
Hi all, I think it's really interesting to learn about people's different workflows, especially in more professional settings like in this case. I guess it would also be nice to know what people might like in terms of more 'sequencer' related features. For me Rosegarden has always been primarily a sequencer with lots of really cool 'bonus' so to say features. For instance, I think Rosegarden's notation support is fantastis (I'm thinking primarily of composition, but its export to Lilypond is also really nice). Honestly I have never used the audio features that much, but that's because my Linux set-ups are always very modular and I try to focus on different parts. i.e. I mostly use Ardour for audio and if needed I sync with jack transport. IIRC the LV2 (and plugins) issues has often come up with new or 'wannabe' Rosegarden users, but if the real user community doesn't see it as a priority, personally I can live with a no-plugins Rosegarden... For instance when composing with Yoshimi my workflow is exactly like Will's: rosegarden connected to Yoshimi via alsa-midi and saving Rosegarden file and yoshmi states, the only difference is that for the final 'master' I use mhwaveeditor which is a rather minimalistic single-file wave editor and works very well with jack, I will then just touch the global volume do a fade-out adjustment and that's it. As some people maybe know I even did an entire feature film original soundtrack entirely with Rosegarden + a bunch of stand-alone synths including Yoshimi (85%), fluidsynth, hexter, linuxsampler. jack transport with xjadeo was a key feature to sync with the video and other probably mostly unknown Rosegarden features such as the ability to have the start of a piece _after_ measure 1. I _did_ miss because of time constraints and length of music a way to 'render' stuff directly to an audio file without having to 'record' it. If you think about it, it doesn't really make much sense unless you are doing something interactive or live to have to manually 'record' stuff digitally :) Sorry for the long email, we are locked at home here in Italy and maybe more prone to techno-philosophical thoughts :D Lorenzo. On 14/03/20 00:12, r...@hydrophones.com wrote: Yeah, I do something similar. I record the raw audio tracks with Rosegarden and then when I have all the tracks (and then some), I pull them into Audacity for editing, mixing, and processing. Outputs are usually stereo, 5.1, and 7.1 flac files to be merged with video. I use a Linux cluster and quite a bit of external MIDI gear. Jack, MIDI, and Netjack interfacing are important to my uses. Just adding my take on the audio front. I frequently collaborate with people who send me audio guitar and/or vocal tracks. I load these into Rosegarden, then produce MIDI tracks to make my additions. On very rare occasion I'll do some processing of the audio with plugins in Rosegarden, but I prefer to pre-process externally, usually with Audacity. Once I have a project complete, I'll then play the audio from Rosegarden into Audacity in parallel with audio from Yoshimi to produce the complete stereo track. Finally, in Audacity, I'll trim start and end, and maybe run the fast lookahead limiter and set the overall level. For anyone interested below is a typical example from some years back. Vocal and guitar is from Ged, the rest is Yoshimi. https://soundcloud.com/soft-sounds/scarborough-fair-feat-rustysrtingz -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?
Greetings, In the spirit of use-cases, I'll chime-in. I'm an occasional/casual user of Rosegarden and have been for many years. I'm a very amateur guitar player and member of a church choir. My most common use-case is that of trying to learn a particular vocal part (e.g. tenor) by listening to it over and over. In this case, I will receive an octavo from the choir director and enter the part using the notation editor, and then play it back using a synth (e.g. fluidsynth). Although the notation entry can be painfully slow, using Rosegarden has taught me a great deal about the intricacies of music notation. Thanks for that! After using the notation editor to enter individual parts, I will sometimes use Ardour to create audio files which I then write a to CD-ROM for individual SATB parts for distribution to other choir members. All this while using my beloved Linux machines that are the basis for my embedded-systems programming livelihood. Thank you to all of the Rosegarden developers for your contributions. - mike On 3/14/20 4:31 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Hi all, I think it's really interesting to learn about people's different workflows, especially in more professional settings like in this case. -- Michael N. Moran (h) 770 704 9751 218 Wilshire Terrace (c) 678 521 5460 White, GA, USA 30184 http://mnmoran.org ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?
On Saturday, March 14, 2020 04:31:42 AM Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > Sorry for the long email, we are locked at home here in Italy and maybe > more prone to techno-philosophical thoughts :D I hope you are reasonably comfortably locked in, stay safe, and get unlocked soon! ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 10:03:32 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >On Saturday, March 14, 2020 04:31:42 AM Lorenzo Sutton wrote: >> Sorry for the long email, we are locked at home here in Italy and maybe >> more prone to techno-philosophical thoughts :D > >I hope you are reasonably comfortably locked in, stay safe, and get unlocked >soon! > Indeed! it's a strange world we live in these days. -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] LV2... Why?
I'm definitely not in the professional league! I use Rosegarden for making scores and recordings of those songs. I usually use the DSSI plugin to interface with fluidsynth. My experience with RG and Yoshimi hasn't been good. Way too often, I get a voice/setup I want in Yoshimi, point RG at it, and RG insists on using Yoshimi's default first standard instrument. I have to go back into Yoshimi and set it up again, then it works. Until the next time I open the RG project ... Since LV2 appears to be the intended replacement for LADSPA, LV2 support would be great. I have recorded audio into RG. But the ability to apply LV2 plugins to that or MIDI tracks would be nice. I usually record RG output using jack_capture, then work that over in Audacity. So, in a sense, RG is my audio mixer. Ardour is confusing and (to me, at least) assumes that I'm a trained audio engineer. Great for those who are such, not so great for me. I would like better score-focused functionality, thank you. RG and counterpoint only seem to occasionally get along. But LV2 support seems like a good idea, even if just on general principles. A simple way to render an RG project would be nice, but I think it's easy to just fire up jack_capture with the JACK transport option. That works for me since I don't need to output RG tracks individually for mixing in Audacity or anything else. To Chris, Ted, Michael and all the wonderful people who make Rosegarden - a big Hawaiian MAHALO NUI LOA! On 3/14/20 3:17 AM, Michael N. Moran wrote: Greetings, In the spirit of use-cases, I'll chime-in. I'm an occasional/casual user of Rosegarden and have been for many years. I'm a very amateur guitar player and member of a church choir. My most common use-case is that of trying to learn a particular vocal part (e.g. tenor) by listening to it over and over. In this case, I will receive an octavo from the choir director and enter the part using the notation editor, and then play it back using a synth (e.g. fluidsynth). Although the notation entry can be painfully slow, using Rosegarden has taught me a great deal about the intricacies of music notation. Thanks for that! After using the notation editor to enter individual parts, I will sometimes use Ardour to create audio files which I then write a to CD-ROM for individual SATB parts for distribution to other choir members. All this while using my beloved Linux machines that are the basis for my embedded-systems programming livelihood. Thank you to all of the Rosegarden developers for your contributions. - mike On 3/14/20 4:31 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Hi all, I think it's really interesting to learn about people's different workflows, especially in more professional settings like in this case. -- David W. Jones gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://dancingtreefrog.com ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user