Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 12.04, codename Freedom RELEASED
On 05/09/2012 11:03 PM, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: So for starters, I'd say there's a request on the table to add some kind of global always used fixed instruments override. I'll pass that along. Sounds logical to me. -- David gn...@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/ -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 12.04, codename Freedom RELEASED
On Wednesday, May 09, 2012, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: auto setting does and how/if it works, and why the default behaviour is auto. I guess the feature was invented to solve a known sequencing problem ? More or less, the feature was invented to solve the problem of what to do when you've got, say, a bunch of pitch bends in this segment, and a bunch of pitch bends in that segment, and in the course of editing, you drop both of them onto the same track at the same time. What you'd get before, both segments are playing through, say, General Midi Synth #1, which was linked to channel 1. The pitch bends would walk all over each other. What you get now, instrument #1 might actually use two or more channels to reproduce whatever it has on the table that needs reproducing at a given time. Each of those segments would wind up playing on a different channel. That's kind of the gist of it anyway. I didn't invent or develop the feature, and it isn't solving any problem that I considered particularly important myself. I more or less gave Tom the OK to play with his idea, and after he went off and poured an ocean of time into working through this immensely complicated thing, I couldn't very well tell him we had to leave it stuck rotting in a branch. I did the best I could to work through using it and make sure everything was still going to work on the far side of this giant sea change in how Rosegarden works under the hood. We went back and forth for a long time, and he kept hammering on it until I was finally satisfied we could try releasing it. I consider it highly experimental, and am very open to how users in the field think this ought to be refined. I do feel like it's fundamentally workable at this point, and I'm much more interested in thinking about ways to solve any remaining problems than I am trying to figure out how to revert all of this. It's not technically impossible to go back, but it's wildly impractical. It was a pretty big change. It took him months to get this done, and it had impacts in dozens, if not hundreds of places. So for starters, I'd say there's a request on the table to add some kind of global always used fixed instruments override. I'll pass that along. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 12.04, codename Freedom RELEASED
Hi Michael, Thank you for all of your efforts on this project. I know its overwhelming and lonely at times. You have all my gratitude for keeping it going. I am looking forward to delving into this release. It comes at a time when I actually have the time to compile it and not wait for a binary in a repository. Dave On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:03 AM, D. Michael McIntyre michael.mcint...@rosegardenmusic.com wrote: On Wednesday, May 09, 2012, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: auto setting does and how/if it works, and why the default behaviour is auto. I guess the feature was invented to solve a known sequencing problem ? More or less, the feature was invented to solve the problem of what to do when you've got, say, a bunch of pitch bends in this segment, and a bunch of pitch bends in that segment, and in the course of editing, you drop both of them onto the same track at the same time. What you'd get before, both segments are playing through, say, General Midi Synth #1, which was linked to channel 1. The pitch bends would walk all over each other. What you get now, instrument #1 might actually use two or more channels to reproduce whatever it has on the table that needs reproducing at a given time. Each of those segments would wind up playing on a different channel. That's kind of the gist of it anyway. I didn't invent or develop the feature, and it isn't solving any problem that I considered particularly important myself. I more or less gave Tom the OK to play with his idea, and after he went off and poured an ocean of time into working through this immensely complicated thing, I couldn't very well tell him we had to leave it stuck rotting in a branch. I did the best I could to work through using it and make sure everything was still going to work on the far side of this giant sea change in how Rosegarden works under the hood. We went back and forth for a long time, and he kept hammering on it until I was finally satisfied we could try releasing it. I consider it highly experimental, and am very open to how users in the field think this ought to be refined. I do feel like it's fundamentally workable at this point, and I'm much more interested in thinking about ways to solve any remaining problems than I am trying to figure out how to revert all of this. It's not technically impossible to go back, but it's wildly impractical. It was a pretty big change. It took him months to get this done, and it had impacts in dozens, if not hundreds of places. So for starters, I'd say there's a request on the table to add some kind of global always used fixed instruments override. I'll pass that along. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] ROSEGARDEN 12.04, codename Freedom RELEASED
On Tuesday, May 08, 2012, j...@it-he.org wrote: Is it possible to disable this behaviour by default? No, but please do experiment and see how you fare. The theory is you should only experience the minor inconvenience of having to go set a bunch of things from 'auto' to 'fixed' and you should be on your merry way. The core changes involved in this are deeply rooted and all but impossible to revert at this point, but I'm definitely interested in use cases like yours, and if it turns out this new work is completely throwing you under a bus, we'll have to figure out some practical accommodation, and we will. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
