Re: [Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-10 Thread Mark Hatle
Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Mark Hatle wrote: > >> You are forgetting that you can query per file dependencies in modern >> RPM produced packages. If you prune self-provided dependencies you lose >> this information. >> >> --filerequires and --fileprovides. Invaluable in my expe

Re: [Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-09 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Mark Hatle wrote: You are forgetting that you can query per file dependencies in modern RPM produced packages. If you prune self-provided dependencies you lose this information. --filerequires and --fileprovides. Invaluable in my experience. Heh, I'd never noticed rpm *h

Re: [Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-09 Thread Mark Hatle
You are forgetting that you can query per file dependencies in modern RPM produced packages. If you prune self-provided dependencies you lose this information. --filerequires and --fileprovides. Invaluable in my experience. There just is no reason to prune self-fulfilled dependencies. --Mark

Re: [Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-06 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, Florian Festi wrote: Panu Matilainen wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Ville Skyttä wrote: As for how many dependencies this would eliminate, running some quick queries [0] against the Fedora primary sqlite metadata database told me it'd be about 7.3% of all dependencies (9246/

Re: [Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-06 Thread Florian Festi
Panu Matilainen wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Ville Skyttä wrote: As for how many dependencies this would eliminate, running some quick queries [0] against the Fedora primary sqlite metadata database told me it'd be about 7.3% of all dependencies (9246/126066). This is inaccurate (no versions

Re: [Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-06 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Ville Skyttä wrote: As for how many dependencies this would eliminate, running some quick queries [0] against the Fedora primary sqlite metadata database told me it'd be about 7.3% of all dependencies (9246/126066). This is inaccurate (no versions in dependencies taken into

Re: [Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-06 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, Ville Skyttä wrote: Hello, Is there a good reason why packages "export" dependencies on things that they Provide/satisfy themselves? For example, if a package ships/provides perl(Foo) and has some other things that also cause a dependency on perl(Foo), wouldn't it be a good

Re: [Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-04 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Monday 02 July 2007, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 21:50 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > As for how many dependencies this would eliminate, running some quick > > queries [0] against the Fedora primary sqlite metadata database told me > > it'd be about 7.3% of all dependencies (9246

Re: [Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ville Skyttä ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > Worth it? Did I miss something? Notably, this fixes cases where an app has its own copy of a particular library set (with RPATH) and still ends up pulling in other implementations of that ABI. Such as the mozilla/firefox stack. Bill _

Re: [Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-02 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 21:50 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: > As for how many dependencies this would eliminate, running some quick queries > [0] against the Fedora primary sqlite metadata database told me it'd be about > 7.3% of all dependencies (9246/126066). This is inaccurate (no versions in >

[Rpm-maint] Pruning self-dependencies?

2007-07-02 Thread Ville Skyttä
Hello, Is there a good reason why packages "export" dependencies on things that they Provide/satisfy themselves? For example, if a package ships/provides perl(Foo) and has some other things that also cause a dependency on perl(Foo), wouldn't it be a good idea to just prune the dependency at bu